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i'm not much on bible study but i'm thinking there's a lot of parallels that could be drawn between events now and the book of revelations. I think this turns off a lot of people (including me) as it's seen generally as apocalyptic. but couldn't it be seen as an apocalypse of the cabal?
The destruction of the world described in the scripture is the destruction of the evil world, albeit expressed a lot in symbolic and metaphorical terms: fire, clouds, elements melting, dead bodies rising.
But consider: what makes something evil? Is the world evil because of the elements, or the material it is made of? Is a building evil because of the elements it is made of? No. A building become evil when it is controlled and occupied by evil. An embassy becomes an evil place when the forces controlling and using it are evil. This is what sovereignty means. It defines.
The world is like that building. It has been living in a history of evil used for evil purposes. The destruction of the evil world is the destruction of the evil sovereignty ruling over the world. But when that evil sovereignty is replaced by the good true sovereignty, then the world becomes a good place.
Many will disagree, but the understanding of scripture that accepts that symbology and parable are a BIG part of the descriptions of the end times and that it is about the destruction of "satan's world" and the birth of God's world, that perspective is much more powerful, in my view.
"A new heaven and a new earth" does not mean the material elements are all replaced by new ones (not to mention that the heaven here is not even a material place, but a spiritual one). It means, that the old occupant is being kicked out, and the new occupant, the right and lawful one, is being brought back in.
"I feel like a new man!" doesn't literally mean all my cells have been replaced and my brain structure and all been replaced. It means I've been renewed, refreshed, and feel a different spirit than the one I felt previously. Likewise, the world we live in.
Accepting that much of such apocalyptic visions etc, are symbolic doesn't mean LESS faith. It just means more mature faith with understanding. IMO. And, it makes sense, and is supported by the same logic that helps us understand God's own created handiwork: the natural world.
I would never think that any of God's creations are evil, the elements, the mountains, the rivers and flowers. There are psalms that declare all of creation praises God Almighty, right down to the rain. No, when I speak of an evil world, I always mean what mankind created. When Christ was tempted, it was not the mountains and sky plants that the Devil offered him, it was the worldy riches.
Completely agree
Thanks fren. I have some very strict fundamentalist friends who insist man and the world are inherently evil. I could never accept that.
There is no difference, the Cabal is evil, the apocalypse if the final cosmic war on Earth of the defeat of evil and the judgement of man. As has been said here before, the Cabal has existed since mankinds fall into sin, each sin gives the cabal energy, which is why it has become so powerful. In microcosm, we defeat the cabal personally when we choose the right path and we put on the armor of God, in the bigger scale, there will be pain and suffering and collapse of the system that exists, and it exists in all worldly realms, which are the realms of Satan. What is turning people off? To turn away from all participation in empowering evil (cabal)? It is essential. Is it judgement? We should fear judgement and respect the laws of God. There are parallels, and I do not take the Bible literally, but I do believe it speaks absolute truth through parables and metaphor, to the collective consciousness of mankind. Since no one can be sure of the time and day, we are told to watch for signs, in the Gospel of Christ. The signs are there, but judgement is not ours to dispense, that is God's dominion. We have been told to watch and wait and to stay awake, on that, Q has echoed the words in the Bible, to watch, or "sit back and enjoy the show". The reason we can choose to sit back and watch, is because we know we are saved and who wins. The political moves and chess games are part of the entertainment, just know your place in the eyes of God, he has it all under control.