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New FOIA docs related to C19 origins. Forget speaker drama and start digging in ! (twitter.com) 🧐 Research Wanted 🤔
posted 3 years ago by bubble_bursts (context) 3 years ago by bubble_bursts +309 / -0
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– bubble_bursts [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Yeah, and they were researching how to make the flu deadlier. C19 may have been hurried and ineffective - not the perfect killer they wanted, but it's a bioweapon nevertheless.

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– Wexit-Delecto 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I disagree. It had the same symptoms as the flu. It killed the same people as the flu. All cause mortality was basically unchanged until the vaxxes came out. If it WAS a bioweapon, then we were actually in the wrong for refusing to mask and isolate and stay home etc (we weren’t wrong). And the flu vanished as covid appeared, and returned after covid disappeared.

There was no bioweapon. It was always just the flu plus weaponized propaganda. They went forward with the covid plan in late 2019, immediately after (a) it became clear China would not meet its “Phase I” US import requirements, meaning president Trump was about to raise tariffs on Chinese imports, and (b) the Sep 2019 repo crisis which made it clear 2008 was not solved by the 2012 bailouts and was coming back in a big way.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It was a bioweapon, but a very ineffective one. I know tons of people including my own family that came down with a mother of all flu in late 2019, early 2020 - very hard to describe how horrible it felt unless you got it. I am talking about people who have never had a flu in their life.

Dont let the ineffectiveness detract you. The problem is, they could never make a virus as contagious as they would like since our bodies and our immune system is amazing. By the time the pandamic was "declared" by WHO, the bioweapon strain had probably gone extinct.

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– Slyver 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There is substantial evidence that covid was over diagnosed (by a ton).

There is substantial evidence that the flu was under diagnosed (by a ton).

You are taking those two pieces of evidence and from that extrapolating that covid doesn't exist. Your conclusion does not follow necessarily from the evidence. On the contrary, there were far more (orders of magnitude more) people diagnosed with covid than ever before in flu history (not counting the 1918 "flu epidemic" when we hadn't even hypothesized about something called a "virus" yet). There were also far more deaths attributed to covid than ever before in flu history. If you take all the flu deaths and subtract them from all the reported covid deaths, there are orders of magnitude left over. I think many of those covid deaths were actually deaths from other things, but again, that doesn't in any way mean that covid is not a real thing, i.e. your conclusion does not necessarily follow.

I have had the flu several times in my life, perhaps 10(?). What I experienced last year was like the flu, but with unique symptoms that have been expressed by other people. Specifically my sense of smell and taste were thrown completely out of whack. While these senses have been muted in previous flu episodes, this was completely different. Things smelled incorrect, to the point that there was serious cognitive dissonance when trying to eat. I had to force myself to eat, just because every single thing I tried to eat smelled so completely incorrect my body tried to reject it.

That is a reportedly common experience with what people call "covid." Unless and until you experience this unique symptom, you can't appreciate how different it is from any flu symptom I have ever experienced or heard of. Whatever happened, it was unique. Denying that in support of your theory is not the path of honest investigation.

In addition, there is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that there was a unique virus called SARS-CoV-2 that was created in a lab and released upon the world.

There is substantial (monumental) mounds of evidence that a unique virus with the same RNA as SARS-CoV-2 was found in thousands upon thousands of lab tests (I mean lab tests, not "covid tests"). Covid deniers deny these tests, but I have performed these tests myself (not on SARS, but on other things previously). People say these tests are all fraudulent. No one who conducts these tests (like myself) who understands what these tests are really doing denies them. What would be required for these tests to be fraudulent would be for literally everything in biology to be a scam. It would basically require there to be little demons that run in and adjust all biological experiments done by a million biologists over the past century to align with the theory of "fraud" in these experiments. In other words, these tests are based on millions of experiments. They didn't come out for SARS, they are tests that have been run uncountable times. They are experimental protocols that were built upon millions of other experimental protocols that led up to them. Literally the entirety of biology would have to be not only "wrong," it would have to be completely wrong, at every single step, from the idea of a corporeal body on down to all of chemistry.

Denying all of this evidence to support your theory (especially the unique symptoms) is not an honest investigation.

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– Wexit-Delecto 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Literally the entirety of biology would have to be not only "wrong," it would have to be completely wrong, at every single step, from the idea of a corporeal body on down to all of chemistry.

Since at least the time freemason pasteur’s germ theory “won” against terrain theory. But probably since earlier.

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– Slyver 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I have yet to meet someone that denies "germ theory" that has spent one second studying biology. Just "denying" something doesn't make it untrue. You need to address the points of an argument (in this case all of biology) point by point.

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– Wexit-Delecto 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I’ve had a flu that did that very thing. Toothpaste tasted like pickles. Food I loves tasted specifically like other food that you wouldn’t want in that context. Even fruit and fresh oranges tasted off. It happened 40 years ago and my parents left elementary school age me home alone sick for 2 days before sending me back.

Continue testing for covid using the ridiculous pcr test and you’ll get false positives for lyfe. It’s all a scam and always was.

Blame china for the propaganda. They started it with their ridiculous “leaked” vids of people dropping on the streets. There was no new virus, it was the flu. The vaxx was the payload.

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– Slyver 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Continue testing for covid using the ridiculous pcr test and you’ll get false positives for lyfe. It’s all a scam and always was.

I stated specifically NOT the PCR test. I am talking about lab tests. Some people talk about "covid never being isolated," then I point to numerous tests to the contrary. I've done it more times than I can count. I can do it again if you wish. It's all over the place. People then say, "That's not isolated. Here's what 'isolated' really means." To which I say, you have never performed these tests and have no idea what they are doing. I've even gone so far as to explain what the tests are doing, and how they are a form of isolation, and people still completely deny it, because it's only 99.99999999999999% isolation, and not 100% isolation.

It's all so silly.

As for your toothpaste taste, I can't say anything to that. I tasted nothing like pickles, but perhaps the experience was similar for you. Perhaps you even got a different coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been around for until millennia. SARS was reportedly made from other coronaviruses. SARS is reported to interact with specific receptors which are prevalent in the lungs, but also in the nasal cavity. Other viruses do that as well. There is nothing unique under the sun in virus land. On the contrary, it is highly likely (basically certain) that SARS was designed specifically to interact with those receptors. Perhaps it was chosen because of some other virus that does a similar thing.

I am not denying the propaganda, the lies in testing, the lies in diagnosis, that the vaccine is almost certainly responsible for more deaths than covid, etc. I have made the case for all of those things in great detail. But like all of the best lies, they are usually based on the truth. That is how you sell it. You can't convince all of the biologists that something exists unless something exists. You can however convince biologists that something is worse than it is. That is not hard at all. Biologists are people, and are just as subject to propaganda as anyone else, but actual tests can't be explained by "it doesn't exist" or "complete biology denial" as you support.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Can we believe everything we've been told?

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– Slyver 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I believe nothing that I've been told. Instead I weigh the available evidence. At the moment, having done my due diligence, I "believe" that SARS-CoV-2 is a real virus beyond a reasonable doubt. In other words, having looked at all available evidence in earnest, I have no doubts left that are based on the process of reason (logic).

Just because I am "beyond a reasonable doubt" now doesn't mean it will always be so. If new evidence is presented that supports a reasonable doubt, then I will adopt that doubt. I will then dig into that evidence and either reject it, if I can find evidence against it, or accept alternative theories about SARS existence as "reasonable" if I can't.

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– cdnthought 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's a theory that doesn't fit the evidence. C19 was created in a lab and does exist. However, like all caronaviruses, it mutates quickly to target spread rather than severe symptoms. It failed to remain deadly but did open the door as an excuse for control and mandates. Its response has been like a soccer player feigning severe injury, a fake reaction in order to further the goals of the great reset crowd. That theory fits the evidence.

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– Wexit-Delecto 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

There was no need to the virus because everyone including you fell for the propaganda. Your way means they were right to use emergency powers at first. But they weren’t. Your way leaves it open to happen again for some crisis or another. Mine doesn’t.

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– Slyver 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Wait... How does the existence of a virus justify using emergency powers? Those are completely different issues.

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