I remember ~10 years ago watching some skirmish in the House in another country thinking that they were so 'uncivilized' but now I totally see how WE were the sheeple just going along with the status quo and not having heros present to champion the cause for the people that they represent.
OUR Founding Fathers wrote the rules so that the BEST came forward and DEBATED the ideas that are/were presented...THEY KNEW AND WANTED IT TO BE ROUGH AND SCUFFLE so that the given-n-take would take place.
Just like this that has played out...McCarthy's ASS is on the LINE...ONE FALSE MOVE...GONE!!!!!
Apparently they are utilizing rules that its majority of those receiving votes, a la the verbiage of the Constitution in reference to Electors voting for President/VP. So yes, any vote not for a person (such as present or just not voting) would reduce the total votes by each non-vote, vote.
Frankly, I hate this shit. If there are 435 members, the majority required should always be 218, regardless of how many votes are actually cast. Hell, I contend that a Speaker approval should require a 2/3 majority. 51% isn't a consensus. All this status quo has produced is further entrenched establishment partisan line toeing. This is about as opposite of what the Founders intended for and desired.
Hell, I contend that a Speaker approval should require a 2/3 majority
Be careful there. The kind of wheeling and dealing you selling your soul that would be needed to do to get some of the Dems on board just to elect a speaker would destroy everything.
Or no need to wheel and deal. Just a GOOD candidate, one the overwhelming majority can respect, despite disagreeing opinions. After all, the Speaker in reality, doesn't hold that much power, or at least shouldn't... just the officer tasked with presiding over proceedings to maintain order. Of course the optics of power have grown seemingly every year for decades... an unfortunate development, imo.
But the PEOPLE deserve consensus, not 51% bullying from either party. Ensuring that, requires better rules in place.
If these assholes in DC can't govern like rational adults, and can't figure out a way to find a consensus Speaker, then WE deserve for the government to remain powerless.
There is still ways to go before we can have a clean government where everyone puts their constituents first and act in good faith. Until then, the show must go on.
Mike doesn't understand that if he makes a threatening lunge toward someone that the worst possible thing would for him to actually reach his destination and the entire world sees he aint built for it.
Screw McCarthy!
Boebert and Gaetz voted present so that should've dropped it to 216 which McCarthy got... Hmmm strange... 🤔🤔🤔
so confusing but i love the mad lad energonz of someone that doesnt sit back ant take shit from anybody
I remember ~10 years ago watching some skirmish in the House in another country thinking that they were so 'uncivilized' but now I totally see how WE were the sheeple just going along with the status quo and not having heros present to champion the cause for the people that they represent.
That might have been the one - the video was viral, women in dresses getting into it too.
OUR Founding Fathers wrote the rules so that the BEST came forward and DEBATED the ideas that are/were presented...THEY KNEW AND WANTED IT TO BE ROUGH AND SCUFFLE so that the given-n-take would take place.
Just like this that has played out...McCarthy's ASS is on the LINE...ONE FALSE MOVE...GONE!!!!!
432 cast a vote, needed 217, whatever he is telling McCarthy everyone is paying attention. They all need to wear wires so we can hear everything!
So they just need one more present for McCarthy to win?
Looks like they were short three votes. 218 to win.
Edit: a "present" vote reduces the amount needed by one, so yes.
But doesn't every present reduce that number by one ?
Apparently they are utilizing rules that its majority of those receiving votes, a la the verbiage of the Constitution in reference to Electors voting for President/VP. So yes, any vote not for a person (such as present or just not voting) would reduce the total votes by each non-vote, vote.
Frankly, I hate this shit. If there are 435 members, the majority required should always be 218, regardless of how many votes are actually cast. Hell, I contend that a Speaker approval should require a 2/3 majority. 51% isn't a consensus. All this status quo has produced is further entrenched establishment partisan line toeing. This is about as opposite of what the Founders intended for and desired.
Be careful there. The kind of wheeling and dealing you selling your soul that would be needed to do to get some of the Dems on board just to elect a speaker would destroy everything.
Or no need to wheel and deal. Just a GOOD candidate, one the overwhelming majority can respect, despite disagreeing opinions. After all, the Speaker in reality, doesn't hold that much power, or at least shouldn't... just the officer tasked with presiding over proceedings to maintain order. Of course the optics of power have grown seemingly every year for decades... an unfortunate development, imo.
But the PEOPLE deserve consensus, not 51% bullying from either party. Ensuring that, requires better rules in place.
If these assholes in DC can't govern like rational adults, and can't figure out a way to find a consensus Speaker, then WE deserve for the government to remain powerless.
There is still ways to go before we can have a clean government where everyone puts their constituents first and act in good faith. Until then, the show must go on.
https://youtu.be/ItUECpFi9_s
https://youtu.be/6jZVsr7q-tE
Ah I didn't know that. So that's why everyone cheered at Gaetz response.
Matt was saying Im not voting for you when he pointed, but Im not a professional lip reader.
I can read lips and I think he said "go f yourself with a rake" or maybe "yo want some cake" idk...🤔🤔🤔
Good will flip today. That is all.
Mike doesn't understand that if he makes a threatening lunge toward someone that the worst possible thing would for him to actually reach his destination and the entire world sees he aint built for it.