The morality here is clear. The Ukrainians were given clear orders to surrender, ample time to do it. The Wagner guy even tried to take their weapons, but they wouldn't give them. At any second during that engagement, they could have turned and fired. The kills were justified and completely legal acts of a soldier in war. Our inherent humanity cries out for these guys, of course. They were stunned and confused which is why they did nothing. The one guy looks like he'd already had an injury to his eye. It's well-known the Ukrainians are underfed, undersupplied, and being given little rest. Combat is exhausting. But if you're the other soldier, you just can't take the risk or they turn the gun on you and you're the war casualty and not them.
The best possible solution here is for the West to stop funding this nonsense, force Zelensky to the table and negotiate a peace. If Zelensky won't do it, he needs to be replaced with someone who will. And for the love of God, pick a guy who can wear a suit.
Take heed, hard for me to watch but chose to. This ain't no game, and God forbid this war, or any war, ever reaches our shores ever again. Actually, any shores. It's time we end this and finally reach that new age we keep hearing about.
The fair Lady Graham has made it clear how pleased she is that tools are in place to keep Ukraine fighting....down to the last man. This includes the kids that have no understanding of what is going on.
It is an unfortunate reality of CQ infantry fighting that when bullets are flying and someone is too dazed/scared to think, giving them a second chance to do so can get you killed, many in that situation wouldn't even have tried to get them to surrender...
I actually feel for them as they were obviously paralyzed by fear, fear makes you do stupid shit and it impairs your ability to think.
Situational realities that I'm unaware of aside, if situation was still on-going I'm not sure I would have given them the chance to surrender....
"Fear makes you do stupid shit and impairs your ability to think".
Very true. Toxic emotions, like booze, " impairs your ability to think".
That's why seducers first ply their victims with booze and why psyops peddlers use word and visual bait designed to trigger a toxic emotional reaction.
It’s terrible but war is HELL ON EARTH. Sitting in a foxhole scared shitless, adrenaline running 1000%, deaf from shooting and being shot at and then to have someone, with probably Slavic features, yelling at you and not knowing if it’s friend or foe…. You can’t comprehend due to confusion…they didn’t have a chance but they probably had more of a chance than most of their compatriots. Stop all war and once again thank President Trump for not getting us in any knew wars.
Hence why OG basic training seemed so appallingly brutal to emotional outsiders. That brutal training was designed to prepare recruits to SURVIVE real battles.
That means being able to handle insane STRESS which shuts down the ability to think and to be able to function on auto pilot when that happens.
How do you know these were Ukrainians that were conscripted against their will and not ukronazis there willingly? How are the Russian soldiers to know the difference?
They don't want to be there? they had a chance to surrender dipshit and be done with it. Use your head. They would have been out of the war instead they're dead.
WARNING! This is a very raw and brutal video clip, but it demonstrates that all the Ukronazis had to do was surrender, but they chose not to.
The morality here is clear. The Ukrainians were given clear orders to surrender, ample time to do it. The Wagner guy even tried to take their weapons, but they wouldn't give them. At any second during that engagement, they could have turned and fired. The kills were justified and completely legal acts of a soldier in war. Our inherent humanity cries out for these guys, of course. They were stunned and confused which is why they did nothing. The one guy looks like he'd already had an injury to his eye. It's well-known the Ukrainians are underfed, undersupplied, and being given little rest. Combat is exhausting. But if you're the other soldier, you just can't take the risk or they turn the gun on you and you're the war casualty and not them.
The best possible solution here is for the West to stop funding this nonsense, force Zelensky to the table and negotiate a peace. If Zelensky won't do it, he needs to be replaced with someone who will. And for the love of God, pick a guy who can wear a suit.
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Take heed, hard for me to watch but chose to. This ain't no game, and God forbid this war, or any war, ever reaches our shores ever again. Actually, any shores. It's time we end this and finally reach that new age we keep hearing about.
The fair Lady Graham has made it clear how pleased she is that tools are in place to keep Ukraine fighting....down to the last man. This includes the kids that have no understanding of what is going on.
u/#correct
It is an unfortunate reality of CQ infantry fighting that when bullets are flying and someone is too dazed/scared to think, giving them a second chance to do so can get you killed, many in that situation wouldn't even have tried to get them to surrender...
I actually feel for them as they were obviously paralyzed by fear, fear makes you do stupid shit and it impairs your ability to think.
Situational realities that I'm unaware of aside, if situation was still on-going I'm not sure I would have given them the chance to surrender....
"Fear makes you do stupid shit and impairs your ability to think".
Very true. Toxic emotions, like booze, " impairs your ability to think".
That's why seducers first ply their victims with booze and why psyops peddlers use word and visual bait designed to trigger a toxic emotional reaction.
It’s terrible but war is HELL ON EARTH. Sitting in a foxhole scared shitless, adrenaline running 1000%, deaf from shooting and being shot at and then to have someone, with probably Slavic features, yelling at you and not knowing if it’s friend or foe…. You can’t comprehend due to confusion…they didn’t have a chance but they probably had more of a chance than most of their compatriots. Stop all war and once again thank President Trump for not getting us in any knew wars.
Hence why OG basic training seemed so appallingly brutal to emotional outsiders. That brutal training was designed to prepare recruits to SURVIVE real battles.
That means being able to handle insane STRESS which shuts down the ability to think and to be able to function on auto pilot when that happens.
How do you know these were Ukrainians that were conscripted against their will and not ukronazis there willingly? How are the Russian soldiers to know the difference?
They don't want to be there? they had a chance to surrender dipshit and be done with it. Use your head. They would have been out of the war instead they're dead.
Civil discussion only, frog.
You have no previous notes on you, so here's a friendly warning. We're all in this together.
u/#wwg1wga
Are you saying they'll be shot by their own if they surrender?
Because what you said makes zero sense. Which sounds as dumb as our enemies.