...Biden said. “When my lawyers were clearing out my office at the University of Pennsylvania, they set up an office for me, secure office in the capital when I, for four years after being vice president, I was a professor at Penn. They found some documents in a box, you know, a locked cabinet, or at least a closet...
...Biden said that when he was briefed about the lawyer’s discovery, he was “surprised to learn that there are any government records that were taken there to that office.” “But I don’t know what’s in the documents,” Biden claimed.....
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
...(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States...
My "armchair lawyer" thinking:
•Biden admits to knowingly allowing other persons besides himself to access/move docs.
•Biden admits to his office being used to facilitate misplaced classified docs.
•Biden admits that he had no knowledge of other persons moving docs to that location. That is a tacit admission that he did not (could not) know if the docs that left his possession were being moved/handled by authorized personnel, or not.
From my point of view, it seems clear that Biden is looking to throw one or more of his lawyers under the bus- or more likely one of their employees, for "accidentally" moving classified docs. My contention is that it was still Biden's legal responsibility to safeguard those documents, regardless of if he had legal authority (he didn't) to take those docs, or not.
Biden's public statement require legal action to be taken immediately, without need for determining (wasting time) whether or not he had any authority to possess the docs in the first place.
So in my armchair lawyer opinion, I say rush the play call, and run the ball straight up the middle, right now, and gain ground while the dems are still disoriented from Joe fumbling the ball. We need to know who had possession of those docs, besides Biden. This demands an investigation.
I mean, the answer is YES Biden is beyond a shadow of a doubt guilty of numerous felonies by his own admissions one of which you've quoted here.
But... here's the thing. He "cooperated." You know, it was just an honest mistake and OF COURSE we IMMEDIATELY followed protocol and contacted the National Records, whom we have been working with to correct the error. National Records communicated with DoJ, who according to protocol assigned a really great counselor to review the matter... you know, actually, he's U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois John Lausch, who WAS A TRUMP APPOINTMENT so really you can see, we're taking this VERY seriously.
As President Biden has stated before, he takes documents and records very seriously, and he was SHOCKED at how IRRESPONSIBLE former game show host and ex President Trump was with the mishandling of documents after his term ended. I mean that's a serious problem and has NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS, man, I mean c'mon!
So of course, you can see that, y'know, we've just tried to come forward AND BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THIS, follow the protocols and collaborate with the appropriate agencies to rectify the matter. Biden's team was committed to being forthcoming because, after all, it was an HONEST MISTAKE and you see, he didn't know about them or how he got them! So like, nah, there's REALLY NO CRIME HERE!
I MEAN THIS HAPPENS A LOT AND MOSTLY, YOU KNOW, ITS AN ACCIDENT, AND WE WANT TO WORK TO FIX IT.
So in the spirit of that we just need to all calm down, because this has happened to MANY, MANY government employees and former ones before, and if we just like, y'know, OPENED MASSIVE TAXPAYER FUNDED INVESTIGATIONS every time it did, we would be throwing half of Washington in jail for FELONIES! No no no.
I mean you know, the thing is that when DoJ looks at this, they just review to kinda MAKE SURE you're not doing anything nefarious and as long as you're coming forward and not trying to hide what was found or how they got there, we pretty much let it slide most of the time.
That's my impression of [DS] Biden and the Lamestream Media's appeal to why Biden should NOT be held accountable.. how did I do?
You got the MSM narrative part down 100% correct. They are indeed setting up to play the old "no intent to commit crime gambit" just like Comey did with the HRC "matter."
But you missed the point I am trying to make in this thread.
The point I am making is that if Biden "didn't know," then he admits that the document's were in possession of someone else and moved to a location without his knowledge. Not knowing that; not being in control of those document's, is a crime in and of itself.
And that crime is a separate issue from how he illegally got possession of those document's in the first place. We need an investigation to find out who specifically moved those documents, now that Biden has claimed that he didn't put them there, and has no knowledge of them being moved there.
Ok, I see what you're saying now!
Completely right you are, and I DO think thats where it's going to end up going. where and from who did you get these? It probably won't help when a couple more sets pop up in the next few days too.
As Renegade said never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. He might get them ALL caught LOL.
I posted a second and WAYYYY longer comment to cover more ground.... just ignore anything that looks like disagreement in it haha, I was just working through it and laying it all out again. You have a better handle on it than I realized when I read OP
In general though I think it's going to be very painful and embarrassing for more people than just Joe
And I was trying to point out that THEY SCREWED THEMSELVES by hyping up the whole thing with Trump and setting a new standard for docs related issues when in the past they werent treated as potentially criminal
So they have to fake that they are taking Biden's stuff as serious as Trump and that is going to lead to bad places for them by exposing the hypocrisy better than ever and making weaponization of DoJ blatantly obvious
Like usual Trump fools them into digging a grave for him and then they proceed to fall into it 😂
biden says he didnt mean to be irresponsible..but he was and the question has to be asked...if he forgot about these documents how many more are out there he forgot about?...the blaring difference between him and Trump is Trump had the power of declass and biden didnt
plus djt had his in a scif, not a filing cabinet
And that's a good point too. We now see TWO different cases where classified docs were found squirreled away where they didn't belong.
How many more classified documents are "missing" from Joe Biden's memory banks? How may other people have handled those docs; did all of those people have clearance to even see them, much less move them?
I think the 'honest mistake' narrative would work for one instance. But now there's two. It's starting to show a pattern. And that's a big problem for them.
If this is their position, which I have no doubt is the case, it reminds me of how Paul Manafort was charged, tortured, and persecuted for violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA). It wasn't ever really enforced prior to the Trump presidency, but was used unsuccessfully to leverage Manafort to 'get Trump'. The hypocrisy here was outlandish in that Manafort was targeted while Tony Podesta and his Podesta Group was actually the much bigger fish violating FARA. Manafort basically got referrals from the Podesta Group for lobbying on behalf of Ukraine. This "crime" was not properly registering under FARA, to which Tony Podesta was allowed to 'correct' the record and register after the fact, while Manafort was not allowed the same decency.
It's like helping the fire department put out the apartment fire you set. Oh, and it wasn't YOUR apartment, but those of someone you didn't like. Trump was licensed to do a control burn of his land. Such a massive difference, but leftists just don't seem to get it. Willful blindness.