Never, not pay taxes. Never say no. Just challenge them Constitutionally. Note that this applies only to "labor capital". If you have actual income such as capital gains for from businesses, etc, you have to pay Federal taxes on that because either it falls under Federal rules regarding corporations or legitimate Fed jurisdiction because it is in a "Fed gov't program" such as a 401K or IRA.
This is the fear porn that the IRS uses to control us. Yes, they may come after you, but you have to stay in Constitutional jurisdiction, sue them as noted, don't let them intimidate you, and NEVER argue with them over case law or IRS rules. They are all irrelevant, inferior, or unconstitutional and you must say that in an affidavit when you sue them in Federal District Court. Stand your Constitutional ground and fight if you choose to do so.
We are already at war. The question is: are you going to fight or not?
This may not be your time or your battle, but eventually they will force you fight for survival as well, and I pray you unleash holy hell on them when that time comes, fren.
I'm with you...it is quite distasteful being forced to fight this way. It will take all of us together fighting in our own ways to win this war.
Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct.
I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.
Never, not pay taxes. Never say no. Just challenge them Constitutionally. Note that this applies only to "labor capital". If you have actual income such as capital gains for from businesses, etc, you have to pay Federal taxes on that because either it falls under Federal rules regarding corporations or legitimate Fed jurisdiction because it is in a "Fed gov't program" such as a 401K or IRA.
This is the fear porn that the IRS uses to control us. Yes, they may come after you, but you have to stay in Constitutional jurisdiction, sue them as noted, don't let them intimidate you, and NEVER argue with them over case law or IRS rules. They are all irrelevant, inferior, or unconstitutional and you must say that in an affidavit when you sue them in Federal District Court. Stand your Constitutional ground and fight if you choose to do so.
If i wanted my full time job to be "keeping out of jail from the irs", sure.
We are already at war. The question is: are you going to fight or not?
This may not be your time or your battle, but eventually they will force you fight for survival as well, and I pray you unleash holy hell on them when that time comes, fren.
Yeah idk i dont like lawfare or political subterfuge. I only know how to fight one way and it's physical. Hopefully they never push me that far
I'm with you...it is quite distasteful being forced to fight this way. It will take all of us together fighting in our own ways to win this war.
Note that in this particular circumstance I just asked the IRS to return money already paid, and they could have said no and forced me to sue them. But they did not. This is a huge tell that they know my reason for requesting the refund was Constitutionally and legally correct.
I even tested them by intentionally not filing a "required" form to see if they squawked about that or my W-2 correction, and they only protested about the missing form...rofl.