The point is that the automatic brakes should have stopped the train, when the alarm was put out that wheels were on fire. The human alarm was overridden by the fat controllers: the train drivers were told to keep going. This is not a muh Trump deregulation issue, but a greed issue. Stopping a train is sooo inconvenient, as it will cut into profits. Plus, the train crew had the fear of employment loss put into them by the Biden administration. Any disobedience would be seen as strike action, and a subsequent firing. So, a train-driver who is told by his bosses to disregard the wheels that are on fire, must continue, or lose his job.
This sort of thing happens when one takes away the discretion of those working on the ground. Any sensible person would have allowed the automatic emergency brakes to work.
Well, that's the question. According to the guy reporting (not the stand in for Jimmy Dore) yes, the difference in brakes would have kept this from happening. I have no knowledge or expertise in this area and was hoping someone who did might chime in.
Some of the earliest reports on the accident mentioned the "go ahead" order being given by the control station after the train crew alerted them to the flaming wheels. That's why they are now trying to find another excuse to share their blame with someone else. Legal maneuvering to try to allege only partial responsibly, instead of full responsibility.
This is an electronic device that the Democrats wanted to saddle the rail industry with. It's a similar concept to the electronic brake crap on new automobiles. The statistics for auto accidents has not gotten better, but has only gone up. So, where's the proof this 'electronic' device would have prevented derailments? All anyone needs to do is put an object on the track to derail a train. The East Palestine derailment occurred after traveling 20 miles or so with a very noticeable sparking train car. The sensors on the railroad track malfunctioned and didn't pick up the anomaly. Why? Lack of maintenance? lack of paid 'eyes' on the rail? Was it sabotage? According to the so-called 'authorities', it was not for any of these reasons. Of course not! They are are telling us it's from a faulty brake. Okay, then why didn't the rail sensor pick up the obvious sparking to signal the engineer to stop the train? Oh, the sensor malfunctioned too. Do ya' get the sense there's a cover-up unfolding here? Einstein killed himself. We know because all the cameras malfunctioned. Makes sense, no?
All of sudden we are now seeing train derailments on an almost daily rate. Before it was food processing plants burning, power grid sabotage, then spy balloons, now train derailments. What's next? Oil and gas pipelines? Oil Rigs? My guess is airline sabotage. There are no coincidences here. But, I'm definitely not flying anymore.
Fyi, Tucker Carlson did a segment (short segment posted here) about all the weirdness going on and he actually posed the question, how many times do trains derail in an average year. He says it's 1,000! I was shocked that many happen.
Broken or defective railroads are one of the most common causes of derailments, according to the FRA. Faulty or missing crossties — beams perpendicular to rails — triggered 5.6% of the derailments in 2022, making it the single largest cause of derailments. Excessive speed, track obstructions like snow, ice or mud, and faulty switch points — sections of the track where trains change direction — were some of the other leading causes of derailment in 2022. Derailments have decreased substantially over the past five decades. Annual derailments are down from 6,328 in 1975, the first year the Bureau of Transportation Statistics began reporting such data.
Wow! Over 6,000 in 75. I admit, I didn't realize that derailments were that common. That is terrible news. Even with the 'improved' statistics down to 1,000, that's still nearly 3 per day. Far too many. Perhaps this is a mode of transportation that we need to examine more carefully and either revamp entirely, or replace. The cost of human life, not to mention the cost of dealing with the derailment, the damaged cargo, and in some instances, the issue of toxins being released makes me wonder if it's even worth continuing. Not without better measures in place, anyway. Thanks for the info.
If we think about our own experiences as a kids living around trains, those number of derailments start to appear more realistic. As kids we'd walk down the tracks and find all sorts of things.... everything from glass power line insulators to railroad spikes. My friend's mom use to made candle holders out of those old glass insulators. I remember setting pennies on the railroad track before a train would go by. We were amazed at how flat, squished and faceless the penny became. We use to set rocks on the tracks... not big ones but ones from the gravel laid down around the railroad ties. They always seem to fall off due to the vibration before the train got there. I remember seeing the train engineer sounding the horn when the train approached us.
We'd find all sorts of things..... People seemed to dispose of their appliances and garbage around railroad tracks. I recall seeing washing machines and bags of lawn clippings and tree branches. Yep, Along those tracks, it seemed to be a dumping ground for all sorts of things. There was always signs of booze and broken bottles, spray paint cans, and even paint cans.
If you think about it, kids will do all sorts of stupid shit for kicks. How hard would it be to set a large object on the tracks to derail it? Then you have Antifa and radical environmental groups. Just add it all up and it starts to paint a picture. I bet most derailments happen in the big cities.
Good observation. All the more reason to have some safety checks in place. I don't know much about how things are checked, I saw someone say that the flames from the burning car would have / should have set off some existing warning, but didn't. I just have never looked into this and don't know what safeguards are in place, or are being ignored.
It's very difficult to ignore and not report on a plane crash. Just spitballing here, but multiple planes falling out of the sky would most likely be an awakening event for much of the public.
But were the brakes a factor in the derailment?
The point is that the automatic brakes should have stopped the train, when the alarm was put out that wheels were on fire. The human alarm was overridden by the fat controllers: the train drivers were told to keep going. This is not a muh Trump deregulation issue, but a greed issue. Stopping a train is sooo inconvenient, as it will cut into profits. Plus, the train crew had the fear of employment loss put into them by the Biden administration. Any disobedience would be seen as strike action, and a subsequent firing. So, a train-driver who is told by his bosses to disregard the wheels that are on fire, must continue, or lose his job.
This sort of thing happens when one takes away the discretion of those working on the ground. Any sensible person would have allowed the automatic emergency brakes to work.
It was a hotbox issue, shown by video of sparks/fire prior to derailment. Not to say that part wasn't planned, but not a breaking issue.
Well, that's the question. According to the guy reporting (not the stand in for Jimmy Dore) yes, the difference in brakes would have kept this from happening. I have no knowledge or expertise in this area and was hoping someone who did might chime in.
Did the republicans side with the train industry regarding safety? Check out this video from 1:00 min to 3:10 mins.
I hadn't heard about the go ahead order, the whole fire thing is just bizzare.
Some of the earliest reports on the accident mentioned the "go ahead" order being given by the control station after the train crew alerted them to the flaming wheels. That's why they are now trying to find another excuse to share their blame with someone else. Legal maneuvering to try to allege only partial responsibly, instead of full responsibility.
This is an electronic device that the Democrats wanted to saddle the rail industry with. It's a similar concept to the electronic brake crap on new automobiles. The statistics for auto accidents has not gotten better, but has only gone up. So, where's the proof this 'electronic' device would have prevented derailments? All anyone needs to do is put an object on the track to derail a train. The East Palestine derailment occurred after traveling 20 miles or so with a very noticeable sparking train car. The sensors on the railroad track malfunctioned and didn't pick up the anomaly. Why? Lack of maintenance? lack of paid 'eyes' on the rail? Was it sabotage? According to the so-called 'authorities', it was not for any of these reasons. Of course not! They are are telling us it's from a faulty brake. Okay, then why didn't the rail sensor pick up the obvious sparking to signal the engineer to stop the train? Oh, the sensor malfunctioned too. Do ya' get the sense there's a cover-up unfolding here? Einstein killed himself. We know because all the cameras malfunctioned. Makes sense, no?
All of sudden we are now seeing train derailments on an almost daily rate. Before it was food processing plants burning, power grid sabotage, then spy balloons, now train derailments. What's next? Oil and gas pipelines? Oil Rigs? My guess is airline sabotage. There are no coincidences here. But, I'm definitely not flying anymore.
Fyi, Tucker Carlson did a segment (short segment posted here) about all the weirdness going on and he actually posed the question, how many times do trains derail in an average year. He says it's 1,000! I was shocked that many happen.
Here's an article on the number of derailments per year reported by the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA). In 2022, there were 1,044 instances of trains coming off their tracks.
I thought this part was interesting.
Wow! Over 6,000 in 75. I admit, I didn't realize that derailments were that common. That is terrible news. Even with the 'improved' statistics down to 1,000, that's still nearly 3 per day. Far too many. Perhaps this is a mode of transportation that we need to examine more carefully and either revamp entirely, or replace. The cost of human life, not to mention the cost of dealing with the derailment, the damaged cargo, and in some instances, the issue of toxins being released makes me wonder if it's even worth continuing. Not without better measures in place, anyway. Thanks for the info.
If we think about our own experiences as a kids living around trains, those number of derailments start to appear more realistic. As kids we'd walk down the tracks and find all sorts of things.... everything from glass power line insulators to railroad spikes. My friend's mom use to made candle holders out of those old glass insulators. I remember setting pennies on the railroad track before a train would go by. We were amazed at how flat, squished and faceless the penny became. We use to set rocks on the tracks... not big ones but ones from the gravel laid down around the railroad ties. They always seem to fall off due to the vibration before the train got there. I remember seeing the train engineer sounding the horn when the train approached us.
We'd find all sorts of things..... People seemed to dispose of their appliances and garbage around railroad tracks. I recall seeing washing machines and bags of lawn clippings and tree branches. Yep, Along those tracks, it seemed to be a dumping ground for all sorts of things. There was always signs of booze and broken bottles, spray paint cans, and even paint cans.
If you think about it, kids will do all sorts of stupid shit for kicks. How hard would it be to set a large object on the tracks to derail it? Then you have Antifa and radical environmental groups. Just add it all up and it starts to paint a picture. I bet most derailments happen in the big cities.
Good observation. All the more reason to have some safety checks in place. I don't know much about how things are checked, I saw someone say that the flames from the burning car would have / should have set off some existing warning, but didn't. I just have never looked into this and don't know what safeguards are in place, or are being ignored.
It's very difficult to ignore and not report on a plane crash. Just spitballing here, but multiple planes falling out of the sky would most likely be an awakening event for much of the public.