If people didn't figure the COVID vax☠xine was meant to kill us after seeing so many young people drop dead, then maybe this is proof positive our existing government is trying to kill us.
Who would have thought that the EPA would be so completely corrupted that it can't even do it's only job, accurately report pollution.
However, no worries. If you dare to make any modification to your car's emission system, rest assured that they will be on you like Xiden on a child.
They should have a new slogan: When it doesn't matter, we're there (negligible extra emissions for a car). When it does matters (like toxic air burning people's lungs and skin from a chemical spill), we don't care.
Trying to remember, didn't EPA say that there was another disaster where the air was safe to breathe when it wasn't? Where some people did something? Rats, can't remember. Must be the chemtrails
Hard to upvote a body saying they have cancer. Hope it's in remission. It's one thing to know but having your experience has to be surreal. How do you deal with that without going postal at EPA HQ?
In this case it absolutely is. There is no other good explanation. They've been told to downplay the disaster so the media can claim there is nothing to see there and continue to not report on it. They only question is, what is so significant about this specific event that they are putting so much effort into burying it.
Basically, the scenario I'm seeing right now is:
Some entity needed massive amounts of Vinyl Chloride for some secret project. If the project is secret, it is almost certainly evil. So they go the CDC to update the chemical's toxicological profile so in case there was a spill, they could easily bury it.
And a spill happens. I would say more than a coincidence. In fact, I would argue it could have been an insider who was to scared to become a whistle blower (whistle blowers get suicided) but still wanted to shed light on what was happening.
FEMA doesn't want to sent aid to the region. If they do they would be admitting something happened and this would shed light on the incident. When Trump shows up, they realize that their refusal to send aid could actually shed more light on this story, so change their mind and agree to send aid. But only after they had no choice.
EPA lies by downplaying the severity of the disaster so the media doesn't have to cover it and to help make the story go away.
So the deep state want this sorry buried and they even took pre-emptive action to make sure if something happened with Vinyl Chloride, it would be easier to burry per 1 above. The question is, what is being covered up. I haven't seen anything severe enough to merit the response they gave it. If it was just about destroying that town, they have much better ways at their disposal that are much more subtle.
Something is definitely going on but I don't think we know what yet.
Speaking of emissions on cars WHY do older cars get grandfathered in after so old (nc) 🤔 I would think they would be worse on efficacy in combustion !
Grandfathering makes sense because when you bought the item (let's say car) it met all the government regulations (was legal). For the government to then pass laws and instantly make thousands of law abiding citizens no longer compliant is a can of worms that almost no government has fortunately been dumb/evil enough to open in this specific way. Although I'm seeing it start to happen in California and London, England. The problem is even worse if you consider that it's poor people that generally own old items (such cars) and who can least afford to either retrofit them to meet new regulations or to throw them away and buy a new one.
However, this isn't that much of a problem as most items (especially cars) do wear out as they age and get used. And this is especially true with planned obsolescence where things break down intentionally after a certain amount of use so you will be forced to waste money on a new item.
In general, there just aren't enough old cars on the road in most places (especially where they salt the road in the winter which results in cars rusting like crazy) for them to actually contribute much to pollution. And the older the cars, the less of them there is and the less they contribute overall, even if individually they might pollute more.
However, this does create an interesting paradox of sorts. Making new cars too clean and safe and therefore expensive would actually cause more deaths and more pollution because people would stop being able to afford these very clean and safe but also expensive new cars and would just continue using their old less safe and clean cars. Therefore, ironically, there are times where making a car less efficient or safe but therefore cheaper will result in more lives saved as people will be more able to migrate to the new improved product.
If not taken care of, they will usually fail pretty quickly. A car burring oil is a disaster waiting to happen for a driver who doesn't pay attention to the oil level. And in the long run, will fail anyways as the oil sludges up its internals.
There are some people that do take really good care of their old cars. In fact, to own an old car for an extended period of time, you generally have to pay attention to it. I'd rather some bad apples slip through the cracks than the government getting involved and cracking down on everyone.
Also, new cars, with their aluminum blocks and heads, very precise engineering, and planned obsolescence, will fail much more quickly and easily than older cars as they age. And even fi they don't, they will become un-economical to maintain with the sophisticated and expensive parts required to keep them running. This issue is resolving itself it if ever was an issue.
My argument would be for the EPA to back off and not get involved unless something is actually a problem. A small number of people messing with the emissions systems of their own cars is not going to cause a measurable problem. Also, once car emissions get good enough, there should be no reason to come up with better ones as you will be spending a ton of money for miniscule gains per the law of diminishing returns. However, the EPA and other governing bodies have become bent on constantly pushing the envelope even when it does not need to be pushed anymore. Modern cars and even 10 year old ones are actually very clean. So clean in fact that jurisdictions that had programs to check if cars emission control systems were still working (every 2 or so years for older cars) could not use their emission measuring devices (which worked on older cars) on the newer cars because their emissions had become too low for them to detect. Note that these programs checked that cars complied with the emissions they were manufactured to meet when they were brand new, not new standards. As a result, the emissions checks for those cars became a matter of plugging them in and seeing if they had any "Check Engine" fault codes active.
Experts from Texas A&M and Carnegie Mellon University have been conducting their own air quality tests using a mobile testing unit in East Palestine.
CEO of Norfolk Southern railroad smiles outside his mansion
They said that if the chemicals persist at the current levels, it could cause long-term health issues for residents, the researchers warned.
The finding is in direct contrast to the US Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) ongoing assurance that the air quality in the area is safe.
While they said the findings are not necessarily an 'immediate health concern', but repeated exposure over time could be damaging.
The chemicals on the board the train were vinyl chloride, butyl acrylate, benzene residue, glycol monobutyl ether, ethylhexyl acrylate and isobutylene
The chemicals on the board the train were vinyl chloride, butyl acrylate, benzene residue, glycol monobutyl ether, ethylhexyl acrylate and isobutylene
Wade Lovett, 40, has suffered breathing difficulties and his previously low voice now sounds high-pitched and squeaky following a toxic train derailment in Ohio earlier this month. He has had to go off work sick as a result
Wade Lovett, 40, has suffered breathing difficulties and his previously low voice now sounds high-pitched and squeaky following a toxic train derailment in Ohio earlier this month. He has had to go off work sick as a result
There are already warning signs among residents, including reports of altered voices and rashes that look like chemical burns.
Dr Albert Presto is an associate research professor of mechanical engineering at Carnegie Mellon’s Wilton E. Scott Institute for Energy Innovation who is part of the university’s chemical monitoring effort in East Palestine.
He told local news outlet WKBN: 'That material that's dumped onto the ground or into the water could reemit from the ground whenever the temperature changes or whenever it's windy.'
Dr Presto also told CNN: 'It’s not elevated to the point where it’s necessarily like an immediate "evacuate the building" health concern.
'But we don’t know necessarily what the long-term risk is or how long that concentration that causes that risk will persist.'
The mobile testing van has been used by the team over the last decade to look at how air pollution varies in places such as Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
They compared their data in East Palestine to levels of the same chemicals recorded this month by the EPA.
As of yesterday, the EPA had screened the air in 578 homes, and declared that the chemical pollution levels are not above residential air quality standards.
I see kid hands in that picture. I don't know why people still have their kids there. If an adult stays, that's on them. But get your kids out of there. Go visit a relative or friend... or just take a long vacation in a Best Western in another state. Get them out of there!!!! Just breaks my heart. We all knew it wasn't safe!!!!!
The EPA says it’s clean to push and agenda. Yet we are supposed to trust them and believe they aren’t pushing an agenda with climate alarmism? Shit writes itself.
And where are the environmentalists in their concerns regarding pollution? No where to be found, which proves they are hypocrits and climate change or the Green New Deal is a bogus money making scheme.
This is soooooo obvious. If 45K animals have died, it's a clear indicator that the environment within that radius is toxic and should be evacuated. The fact they haven't evacuated the cities shows that they have malicious intent and want people to die.
Is 45K an actual number? That's a ton of animals in a short time that disrupts the circle of life and likely spreads a ton of disease on its own, making it further dangerous for people.
If people didn't figure the COVID vax☠xine was meant to kill us after seeing so many young people drop dead, then maybe this is proof positive our existing government is trying to kill us.
Unfortunately there are people still in denial about how toxic and bad the situation is in East Palestine.
I am waiting to see how much does not grow this coming spring. Something tells me it will send panic across the North Eastern region.
Who would have thought that the EPA would be so completely corrupted that it can't even do it's only job, accurately report pollution.
However, no worries. If you dare to make any modification to your car's emission system, rest assured that they will be on you like Xiden on a child.
They should have a new slogan: When it doesn't matter, we're there (negligible extra emissions for a car). When it does matters (like toxic air burning people's lungs and skin from a chemical spill), we don't care.
Trying to remember, didn't EPA say that there was another disaster where the air was safe to breathe when it wasn't? Where some people did something? Rats, can't remember. Must be the chemtrails
I volunteered after 9/11 and ended up with cancer.
Hard to upvote a body saying they have cancer. Hope it's in remission. It's one thing to know but having your experience has to be surreal. How do you deal with that without going postal at EPA HQ?
I volunteered after 9/11 and ended up with cancer.
What if their job is actually to run cover or worse?
In this case it absolutely is. There is no other good explanation. They've been told to downplay the disaster so the media can claim there is nothing to see there and continue to not report on it. They only question is, what is so significant about this specific event that they are putting so much effort into burying it.
Basically, the scenario I'm seeing right now is:
Some entity needed massive amounts of Vinyl Chloride for some secret project. If the project is secret, it is almost certainly evil. So they go the CDC to update the chemical's toxicological profile so in case there was a spill, they could easily bury it.
And a spill happens. I would say more than a coincidence. In fact, I would argue it could have been an insider who was to scared to become a whistle blower (whistle blowers get suicided) but still wanted to shed light on what was happening.
FEMA doesn't want to sent aid to the region. If they do they would be admitting something happened and this would shed light on the incident. When Trump shows up, they realize that their refusal to send aid could actually shed more light on this story, so change their mind and agree to send aid. But only after they had no choice.
EPA lies by downplaying the severity of the disaster so the media doesn't have to cover it and to help make the story go away.
So the deep state want this sorry buried and they even took pre-emptive action to make sure if something happened with Vinyl Chloride, it would be easier to burry per 1 above. The question is, what is being covered up. I haven't seen anything severe enough to merit the response they gave it. If it was just about destroying that town, they have much better ways at their disposal that are much more subtle.
Something is definitely going on but I don't think we know what yet.
Speaking of emissions on cars WHY do older cars get grandfathered in after so old (nc) 🤔 I would think they would be worse on efficacy in combustion !
Grandfathering makes sense because when you bought the item (let's say car) it met all the government regulations (was legal). For the government to then pass laws and instantly make thousands of law abiding citizens no longer compliant is a can of worms that almost no government has fortunately been dumb/evil enough to open in this specific way. Although I'm seeing it start to happen in California and London, England. The problem is even worse if you consider that it's poor people that generally own old items (such cars) and who can least afford to either retrofit them to meet new regulations or to throw them away and buy a new one.
However, this isn't that much of a problem as most items (especially cars) do wear out as they age and get used. And this is especially true with planned obsolescence where things break down intentionally after a certain amount of use so you will be forced to waste money on a new item.
In general, there just aren't enough old cars on the road in most places (especially where they salt the road in the winter which results in cars rusting like crazy) for them to actually contribute much to pollution. And the older the cars, the less of them there is and the less they contribute overall, even if individually they might pollute more.
However, this does create an interesting paradox of sorts. Making new cars too clean and safe and therefore expensive would actually cause more deaths and more pollution because people would stop being able to afford these very clean and safe but also expensive new cars and would just continue using their old less safe and clean cars. Therefore, ironically, there are times where making a car less efficient or safe but therefore cheaper will result in more lives saved as people will be more able to migrate to the new improved product.
Most old cars ( if not taking care of )smoke , use oil and throw it everywhere is what I'm getting at.. What's up is down I reckon ..
If not taken care of, they will usually fail pretty quickly. A car burring oil is a disaster waiting to happen for a driver who doesn't pay attention to the oil level. And in the long run, will fail anyways as the oil sludges up its internals.
There are some people that do take really good care of their old cars. In fact, to own an old car for an extended period of time, you generally have to pay attention to it. I'd rather some bad apples slip through the cracks than the government getting involved and cracking down on everyone.
Also, new cars, with their aluminum blocks and heads, very precise engineering, and planned obsolescence, will fail much more quickly and easily than older cars as they age. And even fi they don't, they will become un-economical to maintain with the sophisticated and expensive parts required to keep them running. This issue is resolving itself it if ever was an issue.
My argument would be for the EPA to back off and not get involved unless something is actually a problem. A small number of people messing with the emissions systems of their own cars is not going to cause a measurable problem. Also, once car emissions get good enough, there should be no reason to come up with better ones as you will be spending a ton of money for miniscule gains per the law of diminishing returns. However, the EPA and other governing bodies have become bent on constantly pushing the envelope even when it does not need to be pushed anymore. Modern cars and even 10 year old ones are actually very clean. So clean in fact that jurisdictions that had programs to check if cars emission control systems were still working (every 2 or so years for older cars) could not use their emission measuring devices (which worked on older cars) on the newer cars because their emissions had become too low for them to detect. Note that these programs checked that cars complied with the emissions they were manufactured to meet when they were brand new, not new standards. As a result, the emissions checks for those cars became a matter of plugging them in and seeing if they had any "Check Engine" fault codes active.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11804545/Air-East-Palestine-toxic-researchers-despite-EPA-ruling.html
Experts from Texas A&M and Carnegie Mellon University have been conducting their own air quality tests using a mobile testing unit in East Palestine.
CEO of Norfolk Southern railroad smiles outside his mansion They said that if the chemicals persist at the current levels, it could cause long-term health issues for residents, the researchers warned.
The finding is in direct contrast to the US Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) ongoing assurance that the air quality in the area is safe.
While they said the findings are not necessarily an 'immediate health concern', but repeated exposure over time could be damaging.
The chemicals on the board the train were vinyl chloride, butyl acrylate, benzene residue, glycol monobutyl ether, ethylhexyl acrylate and isobutylene
The chemicals on the board the train were vinyl chloride, butyl acrylate, benzene residue, glycol monobutyl ether, ethylhexyl acrylate and isobutylene Wade Lovett, 40, has suffered breathing difficulties and his previously low voice now sounds high-pitched and squeaky following a toxic train derailment in Ohio earlier this month. He has had to go off work sick as a result
Wade Lovett, 40, has suffered breathing difficulties and his previously low voice now sounds high-pitched and squeaky following a toxic train derailment in Ohio earlier this month. He has had to go off work sick as a result
There are already warning signs among residents, including reports of altered voices and rashes that look like chemical burns.
Dr Albert Presto is an associate research professor of mechanical engineering at Carnegie Mellon’s Wilton E. Scott Institute for Energy Innovation who is part of the university’s chemical monitoring effort in East Palestine.
He told local news outlet WKBN: 'That material that's dumped onto the ground or into the water could reemit from the ground whenever the temperature changes or whenever it's windy.'
Dr Presto also told CNN: 'It’s not elevated to the point where it’s necessarily like an immediate "evacuate the building" health concern.
'But we don’t know necessarily what the long-term risk is or how long that concentration that causes that risk will persist.'
The mobile testing van has been used by the team over the last decade to look at how air pollution varies in places such as Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
They compared their data in East Palestine to levels of the same chemicals recorded this month by the EPA.
As of yesterday, the EPA had screened the air in 578 homes, and declared that the chemical pollution levels are not above residential air quality standards.
Wonder if any American outfits will pick this up and report it?
No
I see kid hands in that picture. I don't know why people still have their kids there. If an adult stays, that's on them. But get your kids out of there. Go visit a relative or friend... or just take a long vacation in a Best Western in another state. Get them out of there!!!! Just breaks my heart. We all knew it wasn't safe!!!!!
The EPA says it’s clean to push and agenda. Yet we are supposed to trust them and believe they aren’t pushing an agenda with climate alarmism? Shit writes itself.
And where are the environmentalists in their concerns regarding pollution? No where to be found, which proves they are hypocrits and climate change or the Green New Deal is a bogus money making scheme.
Yes , Yes ,Yes & Yes !
This is soooooo obvious. If 45K animals have died, it's a clear indicator that the environment within that radius is toxic and should be evacuated. The fact they haven't evacuated the cities shows that they have malicious intent and want people to die.
Is 45K an actual number? That's a ton of animals in a short time that disrupts the circle of life and likely spreads a ton of disease on its own, making it further dangerous for people.