Jesus is the only way to Heaven. John Chapter 14:6
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
Mary is the chosen daughter of the Heavenly Father, mother of the Divine Son and spouse of the Holy Spirit. She is the Queen of Heaven according to the teaching of the Catholic Church. If God honored her so highly, we need not hesitate to honor her, provided we do not give her divine honor which belongs to God alone. From on the cross, Christ gave her to us as our Mother. She is able and ever ready to help us.
Wrong, Jesus was in her womb and He cannot be associated with sin. In other words Jesus does not come from sin, He is either perfect or imperfect there is no in between.
Jesus honored her, so should we.
As a quick edit, there are several humans who were assumed into Heaven, some of us did achieve perfection but for most, it is too difficult.
You assume He placed her on a pedestal, He didn’t.
Then His brothers and His mother came, and standing outside they sent to Him, calling Him. And a multitude was sitting around Him; and they said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are outside seeking You.” But He answered them, saying, “Who is My mother, or My brothers?” And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
Mark 3:31-35
While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
Matthew 12:46-50
Yes. You’re still saying we need to pretend she was “almost perfect” when that’s not anywhere in Scripture. Where does it say she was to be honored like Christ? Where does it say she was “close to being sinless”?
I’ve yet to see where Christ says any of those things.
Also no one is pretending. When she told Jesus to make water into wine at the wedding, did Jesus not honor his mother and fulfill her request? Or how about when they lost Him and He was at the temple, did He not honor His parents and leave to go with them? Also to the sinless part that is also indicated everywhere as well. Why would the apostles turn to her for guidance after Jesus’s death? If she was so full of sin, why turn to her? I would imagine that would be the worst person to turn too.
Let’s even go before that, how can she even bare Jesus in her womb if she was full of sin? Is Jesus able to come from sin or is it impossible for Him to be associated with it? It’s one or the other dude, in the Bible people were able to achieve this, so why couldn’t she? Or His father foster Joseph?
If you met Jesus right now don’t you think he would want you to respect and honor His mother? This is the issue with trying to figure out Scripture on your own, you claim to be able to source whatever but can’t seem to answer basic questions that are easily findable.
He couldn’t have come from the MALE line, because He would have had the innate sin. But because the Holy Spirit utilized the female, the sin from Adam didn’t affect him.
The real question, unanswered by 2000 years of theology, is HOW it came to be that Mary's womb was sanctified, such that it belonged to God and not the Enemy.
IMO, the answer to that is embedded in the rather unusual history of women and of sons in the old testament, which shows that progressively, God laid conditions to be able to claim the womb, despite Mary being a descendent of fallen Adam and Eve.
Look at Sarah, Rebeccah, Rachel, Jacob, Esau, also Tamar, etc.
Note also, Jesus was born pure, but not perfect. He lived his life in accordance with God's direction, and grew into full perfection and maturity.
"For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings."
See that would be heresy cause someone can learn the truth yes but Jesus IS truth.
He is either God or He is not. Catholics and Christians believes He is the way and the Truth. No man can be what He is.
Basically Mary and the foster father Joseph were as close to sinless as humanly possible which is why God chose them to raise Jesus. They were the only ones who could do it.
If Catholics believe “Jesus is the only way” why do they do so many man made traditions to acquire heaven? ALL the Catholics I’ve seen think as long as they “confess” (which happens rarely) they can keep sinning.
They also lack the ability to understand Scripture because they’re told they don’t need to study it because their priest can just tell them what’s in it.
All I’ve met are illiterate of Scripture because they think they’re “covered” by attending mass and following all the rules of Catholicism.
All traditions that we have all stem from the Bible, unless you believe that is man made?
Also I don’t think you have ran into good Catholics cause many do go to confession or maybe they just didn’t tell you? Also that’s not a ticket to just do whatever you want, your supposed to confess and try not to do it again. Hence the “sin no more” aspect. Ok let’s say a lot don’t know how to quote the Bible off hand, what’s it worth when you can but don’t fully understand the meaning of it because your trying to interpret it on your own? Those Catholics who believe they are “covered” are wrong as no one knows if we are covered or not.
We do believe Jesus is the only way, there is no other way to get into Heaven, even if we are asking for intercession, we are basically asking for prayer and who are we all praying too? You gotta lay off the anti-Catholicism propaganda my guy.
As a quick edit: if we simply go off of what Christ says, then why would you ever be against homosexuality? He said nothing specifically on that as well. But if you indeed know your Bible you would know that He did mention 3 things about marriage
God created man and woman
No sexual acts outside of marriage should happen
Marriage is between a man and a woman
So going off of simply these things, homosexuality is good no? Nope. Just because He didn’t specifically say anything about it doesn’t mean it’s a-ok. It’s called interpretation and having the ability to read between the lines. There is hidden meaning everywhere and that’s what makes the Bible so perfect. I suggest you reread and try again cause the answers to all your questions are literally everywhere. I don’t care whether you believe us or not but at least do your do diligence and understand what we know is the Truth so you can stop being disingenuous.
All I see is someone defending “religion” and not a genuine walk with Christ.
There are NO GOOD PEOPLE, so claiming there are “good Catholics” is a false statement.
You’ll never convince me that Mary is above other humans or that she was sinless. If she was sinless, there would have been no need for God to use her since apparently certain people can save themselves.
I’m not going to reply to anything else you say, so don’t waste your time dude.
Your comment about Mary being chosen by God to bear His Son is accurate, and it is indeed a great honor, but that’s the only conclusion that can be drawn from Scripture. Her being the spouse of the Holy Spirit and the Queen of Heaven are not based in Scripture at all. At no point are we instructed to pray to any human or angel, and multiple times throughout Scripture men of God and angels alike immediately reject any attempt to worship and pray to them. Also, Jesus did not give Mary to the church collectively as a mother, he gave her to John as a mother so that she could be taken care of (it was a lot harder back then for women to be self sufficient than today).
We are not to base our beliefs on traditions of men, especially from a “church” that denies the most basic teachings of scripture like the fact that Jesus sacrifice alone was sufficient to pay for all our sins. The Catholics deny this and teach that indulgences or other works are needed to forgive sins in addition to Christ’s sacrifice. There is no other word to describe this doctrine than heresy.
"Teachings of the Catholic Church" Friend, you may want to study the origins and history of the Catholic Church before you put all your eggs in her basket.
NOBODY will enter Heaven because of the teachings of the Catholic Church, Jesus said himself "No man may come unto me unless it's granted him from the Father"
No pope, no Bishop, no priest, no Nun, and Mother Mary herself will get a single soul into the Eternal Kingdom of God.
Read chapters 17 & 18 of the book of Revelations, Why would Jesus be exhorting his people to leave a world wide organization that claims to represent Jesus "come out of her my people, so you don't share in her sins?"
Despite the revelations given to her, for most of her life, mary actually disbelieved in Jesus. She repented in the end, but the scripture is full of instances where clearly she doesn't grasp the nature of Jesus mission and value.
Jesus love for his mother never wavered, but the same cannot be said of Mary.
Meh. I count the scripture as a pretty good source.
Let's look at only a few examples.
When Jesus was 12, the family headed to Jerusalem for the sensus. Were they a rich family? With a big entourage? No, they were a humble carpenter's family.
Yet, after they left Jerusalem, for a whole day Mary failed to even realize that Jesus wasn't with them. They went back to Jerusalem to search for him. When mary finds him in the temple, she doesn't say "Of course! My son is the Messiah! This makes perfect sense!" She says, "Why have you mistreated us so badly?" When he explains to them, she doesn't get it at all.
But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.”
“Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
So let's see. Mary had been given the revelation of Jesus conception and birth, but here, after 12 years, she's already forgotten all about it.
Another episode. Jesus is teaching a spreading his message. He is drawing massive crowds now, but his family think he's bonkers.
Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
So, here we are. Mary received the revelations, and Joseph too, but they did not even educate Jesus brothers and sisters that he is the Messiah? How on earth does Jesus family not even support him, or understand him, but think that instead he is a lunatic?
Later, again Jesus mother and brothers come to collect him. Does he say, Yes, my mother! My brothers! Yes, I will go with them! No, he actually places a massive judgment on them. He implies they are NOT doing the will of God, by declaring, as he often does, that those who do the will of God ARE his brother and sister and mother.
Then Jesus’ mother and brothers came and stood outside. They sent someone in to summon Him, and a crowd was sitting around Him. “Look,” He was told, “Your mother and brothers are outside, asking for You.”
But Jesus replied, “Who are My mother and My brothers?” Looking at those seated in a circle around Him, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God is My brother and sister and mother.”
The implication is that his family, instead of supporting him and testifying to him, are in fact saying he's crazy, and are seeking to prevent him on the path he has chosen. Is this the will of God? Obviously not. So, you have to ask, how on earth did this situation come about?
Another instance. Jesus at the wedding in Cana
Jesus’ mother was there, 2and Jesus and His disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine ran out, Jesus’ mother said to Him, “They have no more wine.”
“Woman, why does this concern us?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”
He doesn't call her mother. He calls her "Woman". Have you ever spoken to your mother and called her "Woman". See how that goes down.
It's natural for a mother to ask her eldest son to attend to wine at a wedding, but Jesus is with his disciples and is clearly now doing his public mission. Yet, she treats him just as her own son, not as the Messiah.
There are numerous places where the scripture indicates that Mary had no idea what Jesus was doing, how his mission was to unfold, etc. When one reads the scripture not as a fairy tale, but as a oral record describing real situations, the truth about Jesus situation and the family around him appear. Israel had been prepared again and again to receive the coming Messiah. 2000 years. One has to ask why and how it was that even his own family failed to support him. How had the relationships, the understandings so broken down?
There is a gap here between Mary and the rest of Jesus family, and what Jesus is doing. Later, Mary's heart is changed. At the time of the crucifixion, she is there, together with several other women who followed Jesus. But the scriptural records shows very clearly - if one has eyes to see - that She didn't understand his mission, had even forgotten about it, and when he began it, was an element attempting to prevent him.
The Catholic religion glorified and made an icon out of Mary. This was partly because the scripture otherwise did not seem to provide many clear examples and role models for women in faith (even though there are many in the Old Testament).
Whatever the case, that image became greater than the reality, a painful difficult reality that Jesus himself was directly confronted with.
So you consider a parent panicking over the loss of their son or assuming the other parent had their son is a sin now? Haven’t you ever forgotten about anything? Do you have to confess that to God? Because your mind isn’t perfect? That sounds like nonsense dude. Come on. There is so much just totally wrong with much that you wrote, even Jesus referring to Mary as “woman” you don’t think that simply could have been a reference to the book of genesis?
I read your whole response and read the verses you quoted man, and none of them show Jesus’s parents calling him crazy lol this is what happens when people try to interpret the Bible on their own, we need structure because it prevents heresy’s such as Mary and Joseph looking to Jesus as a crazy nut lol if that was the case why on earth would the apostles look to her for advice after Jesus’ death? Or why would Mary follow Jesus every step of the way up until his dying breath? I think you need to look at the other side of things cause it might help you better understand. Even if you don’t believe you still should do your do diligence and find out. It will do you a lot of good brotha
Jesus is the only way to Heaven. John Chapter 14:6
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
Amen
Mary is the chosen daughter of the Heavenly Father, mother of the Divine Son and spouse of the Holy Spirit. She is the Queen of Heaven according to the teaching of the Catholic Church. If God honored her so highly, we need not hesitate to honor her, provided we do not give her divine honor which belongs to God alone. From on the cross, Christ gave her to us as our Mother. She is able and ever ready to help us.
She was human and sinful like all of us. She would be upset with people putting her on a pedestal.
Wrong, Jesus was in her womb and He cannot be associated with sin. In other words Jesus does not come from sin, He is either perfect or imperfect there is no in between.
Jesus honored her, so should we.
As a quick edit, there are several humans who were assumed into Heaven, some of us did achieve perfection but for most, it is too difficult.
You assume He placed her on a pedestal, He didn’t.
Then His brothers and His mother came, and standing outside they sent to Him, calling Him. And a multitude was sitting around Him; and they said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are outside seeking You.” But He answered them, saying, “Who is My mother, or My brothers?” And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” Mark 3:31-35
While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:46-50
Not being a dick but are you sure you were talking to me?
Yes. You’re still saying we need to pretend she was “almost perfect” when that’s not anywhere in Scripture. Where does it say she was to be honored like Christ? Where does it say she was “close to being sinless”?
I’ve yet to see where Christ says any of those things.
Honestly, everywhere.
Also no one is pretending. When she told Jesus to make water into wine at the wedding, did Jesus not honor his mother and fulfill her request? Or how about when they lost Him and He was at the temple, did He not honor His parents and leave to go with them? Also to the sinless part that is also indicated everywhere as well. Why would the apostles turn to her for guidance after Jesus’s death? If she was so full of sin, why turn to her? I would imagine that would be the worst person to turn too.
Let’s even go before that, how can she even bare Jesus in her womb if she was full of sin? Is Jesus able to come from sin or is it impossible for Him to be associated with it? It’s one or the other dude, in the Bible people were able to achieve this, so why couldn’t she? Or His father foster Joseph?
If you met Jesus right now don’t you think he would want you to respect and honor His mother? This is the issue with trying to figure out Scripture on your own, you claim to be able to source whatever but can’t seem to answer basic questions that are easily findable.
You’re actually incorrect dude.
He couldn’t have come from the MALE line, because He would have had the innate sin. But because the Holy Spirit utilized the female, the sin from Adam didn’t affect him.
The real question, unanswered by 2000 years of theology, is HOW it came to be that Mary's womb was sanctified, such that it belonged to God and not the Enemy.
IMO, the answer to that is embedded in the rather unusual history of women and of sons in the old testament, which shows that progressively, God laid conditions to be able to claim the womb, despite Mary being a descendent of fallen Adam and Eve.
Look at Sarah, Rebeccah, Rachel, Jacob, Esau, also Tamar, etc.
Note also, Jesus was born pure, but not perfect. He lived his life in accordance with God's direction, and grew into full perfection and maturity.
"For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings."
See that would be heresy cause someone can learn the truth yes but Jesus IS truth.
He is either God or He is not. Catholics and Christians believes He is the way and the Truth. No man can be what He is.
Basically Mary and the foster father Joseph were as close to sinless as humanly possible which is why God chose them to raise Jesus. They were the only ones who could do it.
If Catholics believe “Jesus is the only way” why do they do so many man made traditions to acquire heaven? ALL the Catholics I’ve seen think as long as they “confess” (which happens rarely) they can keep sinning. They also lack the ability to understand Scripture because they’re told they don’t need to study it because their priest can just tell them what’s in it.
All I’ve met are illiterate of Scripture because they think they’re “covered” by attending mass and following all the rules of Catholicism.
All traditions that we have all stem from the Bible, unless you believe that is man made?
Also I don’t think you have ran into good Catholics cause many do go to confession or maybe they just didn’t tell you? Also that’s not a ticket to just do whatever you want, your supposed to confess and try not to do it again. Hence the “sin no more” aspect. Ok let’s say a lot don’t know how to quote the Bible off hand, what’s it worth when you can but don’t fully understand the meaning of it because your trying to interpret it on your own? Those Catholics who believe they are “covered” are wrong as no one knows if we are covered or not.
We do believe Jesus is the only way, there is no other way to get into Heaven, even if we are asking for intercession, we are basically asking for prayer and who are we all praying too? You gotta lay off the anti-Catholicism propaganda my guy.
As a quick edit: if we simply go off of what Christ says, then why would you ever be against homosexuality? He said nothing specifically on that as well. But if you indeed know your Bible you would know that He did mention 3 things about marriage
So going off of simply these things, homosexuality is good no? Nope. Just because He didn’t specifically say anything about it doesn’t mean it’s a-ok. It’s called interpretation and having the ability to read between the lines. There is hidden meaning everywhere and that’s what makes the Bible so perfect. I suggest you reread and try again cause the answers to all your questions are literally everywhere. I don’t care whether you believe us or not but at least do your do diligence and understand what we know is the Truth so you can stop being disingenuous.
All I see is someone defending “religion” and not a genuine walk with Christ.
There are NO GOOD PEOPLE, so claiming there are “good Catholics” is a false statement.
You’ll never convince me that Mary is above other humans or that she was sinless. If she was sinless, there would have been no need for God to use her since apparently certain people can save themselves.
I’m not going to reply to anything else you say, so don’t waste your time dude.
Your comment about Mary being chosen by God to bear His Son is accurate, and it is indeed a great honor, but that’s the only conclusion that can be drawn from Scripture. Her being the spouse of the Holy Spirit and the Queen of Heaven are not based in Scripture at all. At no point are we instructed to pray to any human or angel, and multiple times throughout Scripture men of God and angels alike immediately reject any attempt to worship and pray to them. Also, Jesus did not give Mary to the church collectively as a mother, he gave her to John as a mother so that she could be taken care of (it was a lot harder back then for women to be self sufficient than today).
We are not to base our beliefs on traditions of men, especially from a “church” that denies the most basic teachings of scripture like the fact that Jesus sacrifice alone was sufficient to pay for all our sins. The Catholics deny this and teach that indulgences or other works are needed to forgive sins in addition to Christ’s sacrifice. There is no other word to describe this doctrine than heresy.
Sola Scriptura
"Teachings of the Catholic Church" Friend, you may want to study the origins and history of the Catholic Church before you put all your eggs in her basket.
NOBODY will enter Heaven because of the teachings of the Catholic Church, Jesus said himself "No man may come unto me unless it's granted him from the Father"
No pope, no Bishop, no priest, no Nun, and Mother Mary herself will get a single soul into the Eternal Kingdom of God.
Read chapters 17 & 18 of the book of Revelations, Why would Jesus be exhorting his people to leave a world wide organization that claims to represent Jesus "come out of her my people, so you don't share in her sins?"
Despite the revelations given to her, for most of her life, mary actually disbelieved in Jesus. She repented in the end, but the scripture is full of instances where clearly she doesn't grasp the nature of Jesus mission and value.
Jesus love for his mother never wavered, but the same cannot be said of Mary.
Lol where did you get this info? Sounds like you got a bad source.
Meh. I count the scripture as a pretty good source.
Let's look at only a few examples.
When Jesus was 12, the family headed to Jerusalem for the sensus. Were they a rich family? With a big entourage? No, they were a humble carpenter's family.
Yet, after they left Jerusalem, for a whole day Mary failed to even realize that Jesus wasn't with them. They went back to Jerusalem to search for him. When mary finds him in the temple, she doesn't say "Of course! My son is the Messiah! This makes perfect sense!" She says, "Why have you mistreated us so badly?" When he explains to them, she doesn't get it at all.
But they did not understand what he was saying to them.
So let's see. Mary had been given the revelation of Jesus conception and birth, but here, after 12 years, she's already forgotten all about it.
Another episode. Jesus is teaching a spreading his message. He is drawing massive crowds now, but his family think he's bonkers.
So, here we are. Mary received the revelations, and Joseph too, but they did not even educate Jesus brothers and sisters that he is the Messiah? How on earth does Jesus family not even support him, or understand him, but think that instead he is a lunatic?
Later, again Jesus mother and brothers come to collect him. Does he say, Yes, my mother! My brothers! Yes, I will go with them! No, he actually places a massive judgment on them. He implies they are NOT doing the will of God, by declaring, as he often does, that those who do the will of God ARE his brother and sister and mother.
The implication is that his family, instead of supporting him and testifying to him, are in fact saying he's crazy, and are seeking to prevent him on the path he has chosen. Is this the will of God? Obviously not. So, you have to ask, how on earth did this situation come about?
Another instance. Jesus at the wedding in Cana
He doesn't call her mother. He calls her "Woman". Have you ever spoken to your mother and called her "Woman". See how that goes down.
It's natural for a mother to ask her eldest son to attend to wine at a wedding, but Jesus is with his disciples and is clearly now doing his public mission. Yet, she treats him just as her own son, not as the Messiah.
There are numerous places where the scripture indicates that Mary had no idea what Jesus was doing, how his mission was to unfold, etc. When one reads the scripture not as a fairy tale, but as a oral record describing real situations, the truth about Jesus situation and the family around him appear. Israel had been prepared again and again to receive the coming Messiah. 2000 years. One has to ask why and how it was that even his own family failed to support him. How had the relationships, the understandings so broken down?
There is a gap here between Mary and the rest of Jesus family, and what Jesus is doing. Later, Mary's heart is changed. At the time of the crucifixion, she is there, together with several other women who followed Jesus. But the scriptural records shows very clearly - if one has eyes to see - that She didn't understand his mission, had even forgotten about it, and when he began it, was an element attempting to prevent him.
The Catholic religion glorified and made an icon out of Mary. This was partly because the scripture otherwise did not seem to provide many clear examples and role models for women in faith (even though there are many in the Old Testament).
Whatever the case, that image became greater than the reality, a painful difficult reality that Jesus himself was directly confronted with.
So you consider a parent panicking over the loss of their son or assuming the other parent had their son is a sin now? Haven’t you ever forgotten about anything? Do you have to confess that to God? Because your mind isn’t perfect? That sounds like nonsense dude. Come on. There is so much just totally wrong with much that you wrote, even Jesus referring to Mary as “woman” you don’t think that simply could have been a reference to the book of genesis?
I read your whole response and read the verses you quoted man, and none of them show Jesus’s parents calling him crazy lol this is what happens when people try to interpret the Bible on their own, we need structure because it prevents heresy’s such as Mary and Joseph looking to Jesus as a crazy nut lol if that was the case why on earth would the apostles look to her for advice after Jesus’ death? Or why would Mary follow Jesus every step of the way up until his dying breath? I think you need to look at the other side of things cause it might help you better understand. Even if you don’t believe you still should do your do diligence and find out. It will do you a lot of good brotha