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New Nordstream narrative just dropped🔥 US intelligence now denies it was America but doesn’t deny it could’ve been people trained by the US in the past (lol).. Sounds like more smoke and mirrors to obfuscate Biden’s involvement & true goal:... Starting WW3 (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by purkiss80 3 years ago by purkiss80 +138 / -0
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– M42D 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Just like the Navy Team Seal 6 whistleblowers

Just like Tony Bobulinski et al and Cunter's laptop

The truth has already been told, and they know we know the truth has already been told, but ah fuck it. Just put Karumpelstiltskin Pierre out there to publicly spin another lie.

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– barndoorsmurf 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I swear Lawfare could be the end of country as we know it. They parse worlds. They take crap out of context. Then years later air turbulence kills them as a reward for their obedience.

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– r_u_srs_srsly 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They always seem to tell the truth while being disingenuous

This is literally the definition of how intelligence agencies like the CIA operate

There are Officers who are employed by the government who come up with plans and recruit agents/assets for operations.

Then there's agents/assets who are recruited to perform a specific task or collection of tasks.

The agents are not employed by the government. They don't know shit except for whatever their current task is and are basically useless to any foreign government if captured.

So duh. Of course (if it was an American operation), it would have been carried out by an agent, not an officer and that agent may have been trained by an officer.

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– overrun 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This "explanation" strikes me as nothing more than an attempt to downplay Seymour Hersh's article that lays blame on the USA & Norway. Taking out Nordstream accomplished 2 goals:

  1. Crimps Russia's income stream

  2. Destroys Germany's industrial base

The 1st one would be good for Ukraine, that's who invaded them. But the second one does not. Why would "pro-Ukraine" forces take out a historical ally and one they need right now? Easy answer, they wouldn't.

But, taking out Nordstream does serve US interest as well as Norway. Norway has gas to sell as does the US. With Nordstream gone Europe must seek other sources. And while it is short-term bad for Russia, they can build new pipelines south to China (& India) who have huge need for their resources.

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/09/03/100-years-of-russian-gas-for-india/

But this is absolutely devastating to Germany as it is a producer economy, it must have inputs (power & chemicals i.e. natural gas) to work. They have coal but it will be costly to repurpose for this. They make the majority of precursors needed for their other industries. Fertilizer, plastics, paints, pharma, and so on which rely on cheap natural gas. They also need grid capacity to run the factories that produce these things. All this alongside the general consumer need for power & heat. So losing Nordstream is a double hit. It will take them a decade or more to dig out from the avalanche that just started sliding down the mountain. And that's if they decide to reopen & expand their nuclear plants. Add their demographic crash and they are nearly a dead man walking.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-number-of-young-people-falls-to-record-low/a-62584549

German companies like BASF (major chemical producer) just shut 2 huge factories in Germany but, they are building a new one here. It doesn't matter if you paid for it. (If the factory isn't on your landmass you ultimately don't control it.)

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/24/basf-cut-jobs-energy-crisis-germany-recession

https://businessfacilities.com/basf-commits-780m-complete-louisiana-chemical-plant-expansion/

None of the above takes into account Germany's pathetic military. It's a mess. Depending on which article you read less than half of their planes, tanks, etc. are operable. I mean why bother when the US backstops NATO? So on top of all their energy problems they have Russia to worry about and only a weak military to deal with it. They are fucked anyway you look at it. Article below from 2018, it hasn't gotten better -

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-lack-of-military-readiness-dramatic-says-bundeswehr-commissioner/a-42663215

https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/273582284/germany-army-cannot-defend-the-country---defense-minister

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– HatePickingUserNames 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

US intelligence has lied so many times before, you can't trust anything they say. The Pro-Ukrainian Group that did it was the US Deep State Government. It's not really Pro-Ukrainian in the sense we might think. It's Pro-US Deep State continuing to control Ukraine group.

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– Jasen 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Did they dust off bin laden and put him back to work?

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– 1sketchyv 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Why were our planes there then?

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