Well, these nurses got away with NO TRAINING, so you're probably right. !!!! Did you notice the names? Look at the list of names and then let's discuss how the Healthcare system has been infiltrated on every level.
The overall scheme involved the distribution of more than 7,600 fake nursing diplomas issued by three South Florida-based nursing schools: Siena College in Broward County, Fla., Palm Beach School of Nursing in Palm Beach County, Fla., and Sacred Heart International Institute in Broward County. These schools are now closed.
The DOJ article I referenced states that 7,600 fake nursing diplomas were issued. The diploma allowed the applicant to sit for the nursing licensure exam. The scheme was that the applicants would test in states that allow unlimited testing. Once the fake applicant passed the NCLEX, then the "nurse" could take the license to almost any state to practice. Who are the recipients of the 7,600 fake diplomas? I don't know. I know that the states will be the ones to address the issue, bc the state issues the license.
Having taken and passed the NCLEX, I can personally attest: no normally thinking person can take and pass the NCLEX without at least a basic understanding of the nursing process. That being said, clinical skills can be had OJT, but common sense is an inherent skill and woah buddy has that been the hardest for me to deal with. I have worked with some dumb nurses. The Philippino and Cuban trained nurses are chef's kiss. Not so much for those sourced from Hispaniola, cough cough. The things I've seen some of them do, yikes.
I agree, absolutely. It would be very difficult to pass the nursing exam without knowledge. However, who knows if someone on the inside at the testing agency or scoring was bought off. A person on the inside could, I suspect, pull the exams (if paper) or if computerized, access and change the answers. We saw it in voting, so why not in all licensing agencies: nursing testing for licensing, state medical boards, pharmacy boards, veterinary boards, etc. Everything is a scam these days.
The NCLEX is a computerized adaptive test. Questions and their difficulty are adjusted based upon your previous answers. The hard part is the multiple choice select all that apply type questions. They will give you a scenario and then 5 possible answers that between one and 5 may be correct. It's all or nothing no partial credit if you miss any part.
So theoretically very near impossible to cheat. The scary part is the little patient care things that are so elementary for trained nurses that can cause death or severe injury if the layperson is practicing without that knowledge. In Florida if your school's pass rate falls below 80% over a two year period the school may lose accreditation.
Yes, I agree. I think they are mostly computerized these days, and randomized. But, if you had the questions in advance, you'd have a pretty good chance of passing.
Passing the test is the tricky part. What they do is go to a state that has unlimited testing (like New York). In Texas, you can test 3 times then you have to go to remediation. In NY, you can test indefinitely, then take your compact license and move about the country. I did read that the school did do coaching for the test. I agree, it was hard enough to pass after years of schooling, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I wonder what the nclex pass rate is for these 7,600 people.
WRONG! They need more training, education, and ethics, so that none of the above happens to anyone! And so they won’t be gullible to fall for government propaganda & mandates!
I wonder about that. I'm an RN; I promise you that I have worked with some of these nurses. Uneducated, unethical and irresponsible. Let's see what happens.
Can we get this ball rolling with doctors, professors, teachers and school board members as well already and every hospital, medical clinic and Planned Parenthood (murder clinic) .
Nurses today do not need as much training, when the main goal is a ventilator, Remdesavir and kickbacks.
Well, these nurses got away with NO TRAINING, so you're probably right. !!!! Did you notice the names? Look at the list of names and then let's discuss how the Healthcare system has been infiltrated on every level.
Yeah, mostly foreign names…
The overall scheme involved the distribution of more than 7,600 fake nursing diplomas issued by three South Florida-based nursing schools: Siena College in Broward County, Fla., Palm Beach School of Nursing in Palm Beach County, Fla., and Sacred Heart International Institute in Broward County. These schools are now closed.
The DOJ article I referenced states that 7,600 fake nursing diplomas were issued. The diploma allowed the applicant to sit for the nursing licensure exam. The scheme was that the applicants would test in states that allow unlimited testing. Once the fake applicant passed the NCLEX, then the "nurse" could take the license to almost any state to practice. Who are the recipients of the 7,600 fake diplomas? I don't know. I know that the states will be the ones to address the issue, bc the state issues the license.
Having taken and passed the NCLEX, I can personally attest: no normally thinking person can take and pass the NCLEX without at least a basic understanding of the nursing process. That being said, clinical skills can be had OJT, but common sense is an inherent skill and woah buddy has that been the hardest for me to deal with. I have worked with some dumb nurses. The Philippino and Cuban trained nurses are chef's kiss. Not so much for those sourced from Hispaniola, cough cough. The things I've seen some of them do, yikes.
I agree, absolutely. It would be very difficult to pass the nursing exam without knowledge. However, who knows if someone on the inside at the testing agency or scoring was bought off. A person on the inside could, I suspect, pull the exams (if paper) or if computerized, access and change the answers. We saw it in voting, so why not in all licensing agencies: nursing testing for licensing, state medical boards, pharmacy boards, veterinary boards, etc. Everything is a scam these days.
The NCLEX is a computerized adaptive test. Questions and their difficulty are adjusted based upon your previous answers. The hard part is the multiple choice select all that apply type questions. They will give you a scenario and then 5 possible answers that between one and 5 may be correct. It's all or nothing no partial credit if you miss any part. So theoretically very near impossible to cheat. The scary part is the little patient care things that are so elementary for trained nurses that can cause death or severe injury if the layperson is practicing without that knowledge. In Florida if your school's pass rate falls below 80% over a two year period the school may lose accreditation.
And every selection on multiple choice seems correct.
Yes, I agree. I think they are mostly computerized these days, and randomized. But, if you had the questions in advance, you'd have a pretty good chance of passing.
Exactly or if you have insider help.
Correct. The way the nclex is situated, a normal lay person would fail miserably.
As it is, I got a 85 first time, computer shut off. I had no idea if I passed or fail when the test was over. The test can be that odd.
Passing the test is the tricky part. What they do is go to a state that has unlimited testing (like New York). In Texas, you can test 3 times then you have to go to remediation. In NY, you can test indefinitely, then take your compact license and move about the country. I did read that the school did do coaching for the test. I agree, it was hard enough to pass after years of schooling, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I wonder what the nclex pass rate is for these 7,600 people.
WRONG! They need more training, education, and ethics, so that none of the above happens to anyone! And so they won’t be gullible to fall for government propaganda & mandates!
Here's the back story:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/fraudulent-nursing-diploma-scheme-leads-federal-charges-against-25-defendants
I wonder about that. I'm an RN; I promise you that I have worked with some of these nurses. Uneducated, unethical and irresponsible. Let's see what happens.
Me to..
Scary.
Yes, you should be terrified and avoid the Medical Industrial Complex as much as possible.
Already do and have for years. Fortunately, we have an amazing naturopathic Dr. in town (who is completely aware of things past and present.)
good deal
Fraud everywhere. How about the postal delivery people who can't read?
That's on a different level than nursing, mostly in terms of responsibility and body of knowledge, but! I agree! It's everywhere!
They can read democrat ballots, it’s all they need.
Texas is taking action, too. Look at the names. Why do they all begin with A, only.
TX Files Charges Against Fraudulent Nurses in FL Nursing Diploma Scheme https://nurse.org/articles/texas-files-charges-against-nurse-fraud/
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here's the Texas list
https://www.bon.texas.gov/Filed_Formal_Charges.asp.html
Can we get this ball rolling with doctors, professors, teachers and school board members as well already and every hospital, medical clinic and Planned Parenthood (murder clinic) .
Why don't you say something positive about what DID just happen, rather than this dooming? We are winning, can't you see that?
What are you doing about the school board members in your community?