I was going to comment the exact same thing but then I got distracted with all the philanthropist apologist comments in this thread already LOL. Hey folks, there is no sympathy or choice or any other way you want to spin this. Every single person who received the bio weapon injection, CHOSE, to do so. Period. Unless they were restrained unable to move and someone physicall shoved a needle into them or held them at gun point with a timer attached to the trigger awaiting for them to inject the untested bio weapon into them. It was a choice. AND. all you folks that spin this shit any other way are the REASON they get away with this shit in the first place. CHOOSE wisely. Cant raise your kids or work or put food on the table if your DEAD. What a narrow argument all of you vomit in here.
Exactly. For me words matter especially in context where such things are described as forced. I refuse to allow that narrative to persist unless that truly was the case and I am unaware of very few real "forced" situations, but have heard countless times of circumstances that clearly are not a forced to do something situation.
When people dangle the homelessness and starvation of your children, the people you love to savagery, in front of you, you can't make rational decisions. You make whatever decisions will enable you to provide for them to the best of your knowledge.
If that were really the case I would agree but in the US and accounts of events around the globe, generally speaking, this scenario is pure hyperbole. I cant speak for every situation but by and large losing your job does not equate to homelessness and starvation. Other countries and the tyranny that occurred I can agree without hesitation that is forced / force category or extreme coercion. I cant count how many times ive heard someone was forced because they wanted to go on their carnival cruise or take that vacation next month or whatever. If I didnt get injected I would lose my job. That isnt forced.
I know, thats why those kind of responses to justify personal choices as forced is so melodramatic. I have compassion for the outcome of these events but no sympathy for choices made. Or lack there of, and then defer responsibility to some long line of excuses or others for those choices.
I mean where I use to live or on travel, Ive seen single mothers with 6 kids driving a newer Escalade and buying an entire 2, overflowing loads of shopping carts worth of food, on their WIC card- OFTEN, and none of them were skinny. Yall arent going to starve because you refused a bio weapon injection, especially in this country
Ok, let me get your advice, just for fun. I never took it; I’m a SAHM and at the time I had a 16 month old and a newborn. My husband never wanted a green card (he’s Bulgarian) and dragged his ass because he dislikes the USA. Finally, during Covid, he got started. Not soon enough; his job required the shot. (Green card=options. He works for an international company which services Americans in an extremely niche sector.) I insisted he not take it; I spend time online, he spends absolutely ZERO time online so he thought I was being horrmonal and postpartum-ey. Were he to lose this job, he’d lose the B12 Visas which let him see his family. (Not his fault for dragging his ass on the green card; he wanted to wait until he had good reasons.) He’d also lose the money which was paying our mortgage, our food, our bills. What would you have done, practically, that would have enabled your family to stay afloat. (Honest question; I’m curious to hear what I hadn’t thought of so that I can more in my arsenal of ideas is this happens again.)
That hard situation for sure. I dont know what I would have done. All I can say is I stood where I work and would have lost everything I refused to comply. I was set to be fired on Jan 19, 2022. They pulled back on their policies a few weeks prior and I wasnt fired. But as far as I knew I was going to be fired so thats all I can say to that.
What was his reasoning for postponing the green card? I can think of reasons that a person might want to postpone a citizenship application, such as that he thinks that the USA hasn’t yet earned his sword, but a green card isn’t a pledge of loyalty like citizenship is. The green card is more benefits for not much more commitment. Like you say, more options.
To answer your question about what I would have done: I would have never taken the demon semen even if the commies followed through on a threat to shoot me dead and prevented me from earning any money ever again. Would my refusal prevent the family from staying afloat? I don’t know for sure because I don’t know the family’s finances, but I doubt it. In some ways, money is an illusion like time.
I was going to comment the exact same thing but then I got distracted with all the philanthropist apologist comments in this thread already LOL. Hey folks, there is no sympathy or choice or any other way you want to spin this. Every single person who received the bio weapon injection, CHOSE, to do so. Period. Unless they were restrained unable to move and someone physicall shoved a needle into them or held them at gun point with a timer attached to the trigger awaiting for them to inject the untested bio weapon into them. It was a choice. AND. all you folks that spin this shit any other way are the REASON they get away with this shit in the first place. CHOOSE wisely. Cant raise your kids or work or put food on the table if your DEAD. What a narrow argument all of you vomit in here.
Exactly. For me words matter especially in context where such things are described as forced. I refuse to allow that narrative to persist unless that truly was the case and I am unaware of very few real "forced" situations, but have heard countless times of circumstances that clearly are not a forced to do something situation.
When people dangle the homelessness and starvation of your children, the people you love to savagery, in front of you, you can't make rational decisions. You make whatever decisions will enable you to provide for them to the best of your knowledge.
If that were really the case I would agree but in the US and accounts of events around the globe, generally speaking, this scenario is pure hyperbole. I cant speak for every situation but by and large losing your job does not equate to homelessness and starvation. Other countries and the tyranny that occurred I can agree without hesitation that is forced / force category or extreme coercion. I cant count how many times ive heard someone was forced because they wanted to go on their carnival cruise or take that vacation next month or whatever. If I didnt get injected I would lose my job. That isnt forced.
My younger brother is autistic and it's very hard for him to find a job. He stood his ground. Still works... Fuck communists
Proof in point right there. Free will, conviction and fortitude. Nice story shared there. Thanks
I know, thats why those kind of responses to justify personal choices as forced is so melodramatic. I have compassion for the outcome of these events but no sympathy for choices made. Or lack there of, and then defer responsibility to some long line of excuses or others for those choices.
I mean where I use to live or on travel, Ive seen single mothers with 6 kids driving a newer Escalade and buying an entire 2, overflowing loads of shopping carts worth of food, on their WIC card- OFTEN, and none of them were skinny. Yall arent going to starve because you refused a bio weapon injection, especially in this country
Lose your kids?
Ok, let me get your advice, just for fun. I never took it; I’m a SAHM and at the time I had a 16 month old and a newborn. My husband never wanted a green card (he’s Bulgarian) and dragged his ass because he dislikes the USA. Finally, during Covid, he got started. Not soon enough; his job required the shot. (Green card=options. He works for an international company which services Americans in an extremely niche sector.) I insisted he not take it; I spend time online, he spends absolutely ZERO time online so he thought I was being horrmonal and postpartum-ey. Were he to lose this job, he’d lose the B12 Visas which let him see his family. (Not his fault for dragging his ass on the green card; he wanted to wait until he had good reasons.) He’d also lose the money which was paying our mortgage, our food, our bills. What would you have done, practically, that would have enabled your family to stay afloat. (Honest question; I’m curious to hear what I hadn’t thought of so that I can more in my arsenal of ideas is this happens again.)
That hard situation for sure. I dont know what I would have done. All I can say is I stood where I work and would have lost everything I refused to comply. I was set to be fired on Jan 19, 2022. They pulled back on their policies a few weeks prior and I wasnt fired. But as far as I knew I was going to be fired so thats all I can say to that.
What was his reasoning for postponing the green card? I can think of reasons that a person might want to postpone a citizenship application, such as that he thinks that the USA hasn’t yet earned his sword, but a green card isn’t a pledge of loyalty like citizenship is. The green card is more benefits for not much more commitment. Like you say, more options.
To answer your question about what I would have done: I would have never taken the demon semen even if the commies followed through on a threat to shoot me dead and prevented me from earning any money ever again. Would my refusal prevent the family from staying afloat? I don’t know for sure because I don’t know the family’s finances, but I doubt it. In some ways, money is an illusion like time.