Very subtle vaccine trial debunk, great to share with normies
(www.skepticalraptor.com)
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Calling on u/vaccinescausesids for his expertise here!
Thanks for the invite.
Theres a lot to unpack there, but heres a few thoughts.
the so-called “placebo” they use, is often just a different vaccine that is presumed to be so incredibly safe that its literally inert.
no safety signals for HPV? bullshit.
theres really no reason to believe a single word they say, or to trust their so-called “data”, because they could quite literally fabricate data and theres no way for anyone to prove it one way or the other
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You're the MAN (how DARE I assume your gender, xir! :D) u/vaccinescausesids
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This writer has created an underhanded masterwork. It's full of illogical positive reinforcement for the vax absolutist viewpoint (strawman, appeals to authority, ad hom) but the actual content documents the problems with vaccine trials in full and in reality is a scathing refutation of the whole process.
It is brilliant. Great to share with highly educated types.
Doesn't look to me at all like it debunks anything, and I'm having trouble getting past the arrogance of the author.
Granted, I'm not "practiced" enough to be able to assess this sort of content, so how would this truly be a good "red pill" for "normies"? If anything it appears to reinforce the pro-vax standpoint pretty aggressively, and any "normies" won't be discerning enough to pick up on what you pointed out.
Yes but consider how it's being reinforced: name calling, appeals to authority, etc.
Count up the logical arguments in favor of the process in this article and I think you'll come to zero.
Meanwhile, consider all the factual information you've absorbed about the trial stages after reading this.
It's very subtle. One of the most brilliant works I've seen. Don't be out off by the aggressiveness, that's what will allow a brainwashed person to read it.
Their mind has to be "lubed up" with pro-vaxx rhetoric.
I think the arrogance is intentional. Talking like them then highlighting the holes in their argument.
But I don't really like this type of thing. I haven't met people who have actually studied it and agree with the vax science. Most pro vax people just believe their doctor or say it's the thing we always do. So I don't know who I would send it to.