By Q asking a question, i.e., "Was Hitler a puppet?" you have to be careful in not making assumptions. The assumption here is that yes, Hitler was a puppet. What if the point of the question was to point out that Hitler DID NOT have someone pulling puppet strings, in comparison to other leaders today who do? That would be a valid direction of investigation.
Again, be careful not to inject assumptions into what you read.
I feel the same. They've done their best to repeatedly remind the populace of how horrific he was. Not Mao, Stalin etc...gets the coverage Hitler does. It's 💯 suspect. He definitely was NOT their guy.
I disagree. Hitlers occult involvement and his actions correlate with him being in the cabal or at least being controlled by cabal. I don’t understand how people ignore the obvious when it comes to Hitler. Sure he might have done some positive things but he did a lot of negative, just like Fidel Castro and many other dictators in history.
There may have been some members of the High Command "dabbling" in the occult, but there is no evidence whatsoever of Hitler himself being involved in that.
I've seen these suggestions before. Be VERY CAREFUL about your source material when considering stuff such as this. The vast majority of what is written (and published) today about that time period in Germany is propaganda to support an anti-Germany narrative.
This was mentioned earlier in the thread, and originally was written about in the Wes Penre papers. The allegations that Hitler was involved was a psyop...if Penre truly believed that the information he wrote about was, in fact, true. It is unknown whether Penre was part of the disinformation, or was just a convenient "messenger."
Sorcery in the Bible is translated from the Greek word Pharmakeia. People even back then used mind altering drugs which God forbids Christians to use. I suppose God knew what they would use them for. Home remedies are not Pharmakeia.
The suggestions that Hitler was addicted to drugs is a case of mistaken identity. The "Hitler" most often seen in public appearances was his body double. By examining all the film footage of that time, it is clear that the man who kept his left arm either in a sling, or tucked into his belt, was the double. (The key "tell" is the size and shape of his nose.) It is this man who probably had a drug addiction problem, possibly because of a war injury. One piece of footage from the 1936 Olympics, with him in the stands/bleachers, shows him rocking back and forth oddly.
This double was quite friendly, and often met crowds of people to shake hands, etc. This would not be advisable for the true leader of the country, because there were many death threats.
The reason why the NSDAP shut down secret societies is because they were a source of infiltration by the bolshevik/communists trying to overthrow the government. The same reason applies why Jews were not allowed to congregate in bars and theatres, because those became meeting places to plot subversion.
The "Night of the Long Knives" was a point of reckoning for Hitler. It is true that there were ties between the Sturmabteilung and Hitler in the beginning, as the Treaty of Versailles after WWI had limited the official German army to 100,000 troops. The SA was part of Hitler's effort to regain Germany for the German people from the bankers who were intentionally destroying the country from within during the Weimar Republic. These elites were largely Jews, hence, the propaganda claiming how "evil" the SA was. The Jews were heavily targeted.
However, over time, the SA began having visions of their own Germany, under their rule. Hitler's close friend, Ernst Rohm, the leader of the SA, essentially betrayed Hitler and began acting on his own. Hitler realized this, and urged by his other staff, ordered the capture and disbanding of the SA during the "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934.
Propaganda claims that the SA was behind the Kristallnacht, which has since been proven to be not true. Kristallnacht was a Jewish false flag, perpetrated by communist bolsheviks. Also, claims that the SA were relevant in later political/military actions of Hitler are also false, as they were eliminated shortly following Hitler becoming chancellor.
I cannot see how Hitler was knowingly a puppet, he was a fatanical nationalist Iv read most of his speeches and various books, Judeau declared WAR on Germany in 1933 - the start - 1938 he boots the rothchild bankers out, 6 months later its war. Im not saying he was flawless I mean he lost the fking war but a puppet for 25 years? I dont see it.
I agree that the question could be interpreted in the way you suggest, however, I disagree that your interpretation can account for all of the evidence.
Consider:
Hitler pushed for expulsion and vilification of the Jews. Not just the specific Jews that were running the show, but all the Jews, all over Europe.
The Nazis made a deal with the Jews not only to push them out of all the European countries in 1933, but to push them IN to Palestine (soon to be Israel).
This push worked, and most of the 500k Jews in Germany went to Palistine (either directly, or eventually).
One of the most important purposes of the war (both wars) was to create the State of Israel.
If Hitler were not a puppet, why would he push to get rid of all Jews in accordance with the primary agenda of the "Jewish Elite"? This association fallacy, that it's "the Jews" is not supported by all of the evidence. On the contrary, all of the evidence suggests it is a small group of people who call themselves Jews (here I am calling them the "Jewish Elite," but you can call them the Cabal, or the Banksters, or the Priest Class of Jews, or whatever you want). Even the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion specifically calls the larger group of the Jews, who are led around by propaganda, their "lesser brethren."
Everyone knows there are two classes of people who call themselves Jews. The ones who run the show, and the much larger group who are led around by propaganda (created beliefs) just like everyone else on the planet. So why would Hitler not point that out? That is incredibly important information, and is absent in EVERY effort, thus perpetuating the fraud of "anti-Semitism," by not calling out the real enemy, but rather promoting the association fallacy intrinsic in the very phrase "the Jews."
That's not a very good exposition of evidence. It is entirely too "Conspiracy Theory" in tone. That doesn't mean I think he is wrong about everything, or even anything at all. Having said that, the author cites Walter Langer as a reference to Hitler and Rothschild, which gives him some credibility.
Mr. Langer wasn't just a "noted psychoanalyst," he was a top level investigator for the OSS, and had all of their resources when he made that analysis. Langer cites sources within his book that are credible. Overall, Langer is a very credible resource. As far as I have found, Langer is always ignored in any "debunking."
The fact that the author of that article didn't expand on who Langer was, who his stated sources are, and who he was working for at the time, makes me think that the author may be putting that out specifically as a form of Controlled Opposition. It sounds like AJ. Not that I'm suggesting AJ wrote it, but it has that same vibe.
Nevertheless, I think the author is at least mostly correct.
You are mischaracterizing the Haavara Agreement. It wasn't a "push."
There were many professional Jews who continued to work and thrive inside of Germany during that time. Many Jews were officers in the military. Hitler's personal physician, and the one he trusted with his mother, was a Jew. I believe that's evidence enough that "all" Jews were NOT targeted.
You are mischaracterizing the Haavara Agreement. It wasn't a "push."
From wikipedia. If you prefer, we can look at translations of the original agreement, but this should be sufficient for this discussion:
The agreement enabled Jews fleeing persecution under the new Nazi regime to transfer some portion of their assets to British Mandatory Palestine.[2] Emigrants sold their assets in Germany to pay for essential goods (manufactured in Germany) to be shipped to Mandatory Palestine.
If the creation of a massive economic advantage, for emigration specifically into Palestine (and no where else), with an entire corporate entity called "Mandatory Palestine" created 13 years before with ALL NATIONS at the League of Nations Talks in agreement isn't a "push," then what exactly is a "push" to you? Everything was pushing them there. The Haavara Agreement was just the final link in the chain to ensure that millions went to Palestine.
In your second paragraph, you are making the exact same association fallacy I just mentioned. Yes, there were plenty of ELITE Jews that stayed behind. There were plenty of ELITE Jews that were part of Hitler's crew. How does that in any way change the economic incentives, and all the propaganda that was pushed out at the time on the larger body of Jews, to push them out of Europe into Palestine.
On the contrary, the very fact that there were so many ELITE Jews that were part of Hitlers crew STRONGLY SUGGESTS he was a puppet. It is evidence for, not evidence against.
Your statements provide no evidence against anything I said, at least not as presented.
You're using Wikipedia as a source. There were no Jews "fleeing persecution," other than the ones who were communists or communist sympathizers. Hitler made generous concessions to those wishing to be part of a state of their own.
As far as the differences in those who remained vs. those who left (or stayed to continue to infiltrate and fight), it's a matter of loyalty. The bankers were the main target because they were financing the subversion, and therefore were the enemies of a sovereign Germany. The other professionals didn't have any skin in the game, and were safe.
By Q asking a question, i.e., "Was Hitler a puppet?" you have to be careful in not making assumptions. The assumption here is that yes, Hitler was a puppet. What if the point of the question was to point out that Hitler DID NOT have someone pulling puppet strings, in comparison to other leaders today who do? That would be a valid direction of investigation.
Again, be careful not to inject assumptions into what you read.
I feel the same. They've done their best to repeatedly remind the populace of how horrific he was. Not Mao, Stalin etc...gets the coverage Hitler does. It's 💯 suspect. He definitely was NOT their guy.
I disagree. Hitlers occult involvement and his actions correlate with him being in the cabal or at least being controlled by cabal. I don’t understand how people ignore the obvious when it comes to Hitler. Sure he might have done some positive things but he did a lot of negative, just like Fidel Castro and many other dictators in history.
There may have been some members of the High Command "dabbling" in the occult, but there is no evidence whatsoever of Hitler himself being involved in that.
He was a member of the Thule society. Very occult.
This was based upon the Wes Penre pages, linked above, and proven to be false.
I've seen these suggestions before. Be VERY CAREFUL about your source material when considering stuff such as this. The vast majority of what is written (and published) today about that time period in Germany is propaganda to support an anti-Germany narrative.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/j7beah/thoughts_on_wes_penre_pages/
Research Vril Society. The money behind A.H.
This was mentioned earlier in the thread, and originally was written about in the Wes Penre papers. The allegations that Hitler was involved was a psyop...if Penre truly believed that the information he wrote about was, in fact, true. It is unknown whether Penre was part of the disinformation, or was just a convenient "messenger."
Hitler was a fairly devout Christian.
Himmler went down the occult rabbit hole, Hitler waa very much on the Christian leaning side of things
Sorcery in the Bible is translated from the Greek word Pharmakeia. People even back then used mind altering drugs which God forbids Christians to use. I suppose God knew what they would use them for. Home remedies are not Pharmakeia.
The suggestions that Hitler was addicted to drugs is a case of mistaken identity. The "Hitler" most often seen in public appearances was his body double. By examining all the film footage of that time, it is clear that the man who kept his left arm either in a sling, or tucked into his belt, was the double. (The key "tell" is the size and shape of his nose.) It is this man who probably had a drug addiction problem, possibly because of a war injury. One piece of footage from the 1936 Olympics, with him in the stands/bleachers, shows him rocking back and forth oddly.
This double was quite friendly, and often met crowds of people to shake hands, etc. This would not be advisable for the true leader of the country, because there were many death threats.
The reason why the NSDAP shut down secret societies is because they were a source of infiltration by the bolshevik/communists trying to overthrow the government. The same reason applies why Jews were not allowed to congregate in bars and theatres, because those became meeting places to plot subversion.
The "Night of the Long Knives" was a point of reckoning for Hitler. It is true that there were ties between the Sturmabteilung and Hitler in the beginning, as the Treaty of Versailles after WWI had limited the official German army to 100,000 troops. The SA was part of Hitler's effort to regain Germany for the German people from the bankers who were intentionally destroying the country from within during the Weimar Republic. These elites were largely Jews, hence, the propaganda claiming how "evil" the SA was. The Jews were heavily targeted.
However, over time, the SA began having visions of their own Germany, under their rule. Hitler's close friend, Ernst Rohm, the leader of the SA, essentially betrayed Hitler and began acting on his own. Hitler realized this, and urged by his other staff, ordered the capture and disbanding of the SA during the "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934.
Propaganda claims that the SA was behind the Kristallnacht, which has since been proven to be not true. Kristallnacht was a Jewish false flag, perpetrated by communist bolsheviks. Also, claims that the SA were relevant in later political/military actions of Hitler are also false, as they were eliminated shortly following Hitler becoming chancellor.
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I cannot see how Hitler was knowingly a puppet, he was a fatanical nationalist Iv read most of his speeches and various books, Judeau declared WAR on Germany in 1933 - the start - 1938 he boots the rothchild bankers out, 6 months later its war. Im not saying he was flawless I mean he lost the fking war but a puppet for 25 years? I dont see it.
Interesting theory of who Hitler was - https://humansbefree.com/2011/05/adolf-hitler-was-a-rothschild-strong-evidence.html
Hitler was not a product of a hidden relationship with a Rothschild: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/was-hitler-jewish
https://tv.gab.com/channel/cro_magnon1488/view/adolf-hitler-was-not-a-controlled-630b013a90d638989bf91c4e
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-1/
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-2/
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-3 /?doing_wp_cron=1683028201.0570380687713623046875
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-4/
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-5/
http://www.renegadetribune.com/hitler-was-not-controlled-opposition-part-6/
Good point. I belive hitler was controlled early on,but broke away from the cabal.
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I agree that the question could be interpreted in the way you suggest, however, I disagree that your interpretation can account for all of the evidence.
Consider:
If Hitler were not a puppet, why would he push to get rid of all Jews in accordance with the primary agenda of the "Jewish Elite"? This association fallacy, that it's "the Jews" is not supported by all of the evidence. On the contrary, all of the evidence suggests it is a small group of people who call themselves Jews (here I am calling them the "Jewish Elite," but you can call them the Cabal, or the Banksters, or the Priest Class of Jews, or whatever you want). Even the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion specifically calls the larger group of the Jews, who are led around by propaganda, their "lesser brethren."
Everyone knows there are two classes of people who call themselves Jews. The ones who run the show, and the much larger group who are led around by propaganda (created beliefs) just like everyone else on the planet. So why would Hitler not point that out? That is incredibly important information, and is absent in EVERY effort, thus perpetuating the fraud of "anti-Semitism," by not calling out the real enemy, but rather promoting the association fallacy intrinsic in the very phrase "the Jews."
Interesting theory about who Hitler was - https://humansbefree.com/2011/05/adolf-hitler-was-a-rothschild-strong-evidence.html
That's not a very good exposition of evidence. It is entirely too "Conspiracy Theory" in tone. That doesn't mean I think he is wrong about everything, or even anything at all. Having said that, the author cites Walter Langer as a reference to Hitler and Rothschild, which gives him some credibility.
Mr. Langer wasn't just a "noted psychoanalyst," he was a top level investigator for the OSS, and had all of their resources when he made that analysis. Langer cites sources within his book that are credible. Overall, Langer is a very credible resource. As far as I have found, Langer is always ignored in any "debunking."
The fact that the author of that article didn't expand on who Langer was, who his stated sources are, and who he was working for at the time, makes me think that the author may be putting that out specifically as a form of Controlled Opposition. It sounds like AJ. Not that I'm suggesting AJ wrote it, but it has that same vibe.
Nevertheless, I think the author is at least mostly correct.
You are mischaracterizing the Haavara Agreement. It wasn't a "push."
There were many professional Jews who continued to work and thrive inside of Germany during that time. Many Jews were officers in the military. Hitler's personal physician, and the one he trusted with his mother, was a Jew. I believe that's evidence enough that "all" Jews were NOT targeted.
From wikipedia. If you prefer, we can look at translations of the original agreement, but this should be sufficient for this discussion:
If the creation of a massive economic advantage, for emigration specifically into Palestine (and no where else), with an entire corporate entity called "Mandatory Palestine" created 13 years before with ALL NATIONS at the League of Nations Talks in agreement isn't a "push," then what exactly is a "push" to you? Everything was pushing them there. The Haavara Agreement was just the final link in the chain to ensure that millions went to Palestine.
In your second paragraph, you are making the exact same association fallacy I just mentioned. Yes, there were plenty of ELITE Jews that stayed behind. There were plenty of ELITE Jews that were part of Hitler's crew. How does that in any way change the economic incentives, and all the propaganda that was pushed out at the time on the larger body of Jews, to push them out of Europe into Palestine.
On the contrary, the very fact that there were so many ELITE Jews that were part of Hitlers crew STRONGLY SUGGESTS he was a puppet. It is evidence for, not evidence against.
Your statements provide no evidence against anything I said, at least not as presented.
You're using Wikipedia as a source. There were no Jews "fleeing persecution," other than the ones who were communists or communist sympathizers. Hitler made generous concessions to those wishing to be part of a state of their own.
As far as the differences in those who remained vs. those who left (or stayed to continue to infiltrate and fight), it's a matter of loyalty. The bankers were the main target because they were financing the subversion, and therefore were the enemies of a sovereign Germany. The other professionals didn't have any skin in the game, and were safe.
Hitler was not a puppet.
Germany had jewish generals. In addition to various black atab and asian volunteer divisions. A fact often over looked.
What was the purpose of the next Q’s question?
I agree with you regarding assumptions injection, but in this case Q seem to suggest the answer „Yes” to the previous questiom.