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Yeah, both are God. That's the point. No one but God uses that title.
God the Father & Jesus, God the Son
Notice Moses, unlike Jesus, didn't say he (Moses) was "I AM"?
HUGE category difference. Come on, you're better than that aren't you? That was either wildly inconsistent or intellectual dishonesty. Either way, not a good look.
Now address everything else because I took the time to slaughter your heretical position and false claims about the early church. I did this so you can be without excuse and hopefully repent or you WILL go to hell my friend. I don't want that and you certainly don't.
This isn't about being right or wrong, it's about alighting with scripture. Set aside your pride. You know you have no real argument at this point.
What I’m saying is Jesus was referring to God, not Him when He said “I Am”.
But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!” Revelations 22:9
Okay first you've clearly shown how ignorant you are as well as dishonest with that response.
There's no book of Revelations in the Bible. It's the book of Revelation. Singular not plural.
In Revelation 22:9, an angel (NOT Jesus) instructs John not to worship him (The Angel) as he is a fellow servant of God with John and his brothers in Christ, the prophets, and all who obey the words of Revelation. Instead, the angel implored John to worship God instead.
Secondly Jesus repeats the phrase "I am" seven times. The Koine Greek term Ego eimi (Greek Ἐγώ εἰμί, pronounced [eɣó imí]), literally I am or It is I, is an emphatic form of the copulative verb εἰμι that is recorded in the Gospels to have been spoken by Jesus on several occasions to refer to himself not with the role of a verb but playing the role of a name. It is connected to the passage in Exodus 3:14 in which God gives his name as אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), translated most basically as "I am that I am"
You literally can't use that word in the Hebrew or Greek in the way that you've claimed Jesus used it in.
I don't know what box of cracker jacks you got your theology from but it's definitely not the Bible since you're making up books that don't even exist.
If you believe Jesus is not God then you are not saved. If you have been taught this you've been misled and you don't conform to any type of traditional Christianity. You're most likely in a false Church. (Virtually every cult denies the divinity of Christ since that is a salvific issue. Just what the devil needs you deny to damn you to hell)
One last thought.
You mentioned me denying Jesus’ divinity.
I’m curious if you’ve ever looked at the definition of divine/divinity?
Divine: adjective 1. of, from, or like God or a god.
By the way, I didn’t chose to put a lower case “g” in that definition. That is how it’s defined.
Have a good day, fren!
And you’re showing your ass to everyone who will look.
Let me be real clear what I believe.
I believe Jesus is the Son of God. I believe one must accept that Jesus was a man, the Son of God and died on the Cross so that those who accepted Him could have eternal Salvation. I believe at anytime Jesus could have stopped all the madness and put everyone in their rightful place but instead He chose to endure so that we could live under Grace and receive Salvation if we so choose.
I don’t believe we are suppose to pray to anyone other than God The Father and that is why Jesus showed us how to Pray.
“To me” what we are debating over is a speculative at best and I hold umbrage towards the idea that Christians should be praying to Jesus, or even that it’s ok to pray to Jesus when He “”clearly”” stated differently.
Notice how you addressed virtually nothing that I actually said where I clearly and unquestionably refuted your positions. Instant you move right past that and try to work out another way to ignore scripture and hold to your personal belief that conflicts with scripture and historic Christianity.
If you don't believe that Jesus was fully God and fully man then you don't believe in the same Jesus that is in Scripture.
I Thoroughly refuted your classical heretical position extensively.
Instead of showing any type of humility or even Entertaining the idea that you might not know as much as you think you know (especially in light of the very basic and embarrassing mistakes you made responses) then you are in pride. You need to set aside your pride and repent.
Jesus didn't receive grace, He received our punishment so we could have grace. And Jesus didn't need grace because he never sinned. He kept the entirety of the law. He was without fault or blemish. This is literally one of the most central things to Christianity. Yet You don't get it and you still believe that you're saved. Sad.
Then you completely ignore that it wasn't Jesus but an angel from God in the book of Revelation and still try to hang on to that which is at this point clearly a lie on your part. Something else you should repent of.
At this point you are a proven liar and a fool. You are not in Christ. You are no one's brother. The scales are over your eyes. Sitting as you right where he wants you. You think you're good but you are denying the only thing that can save you.
Oh and you think that I don't know what divine and divinity means? I literally went into Kona Greek and Hebrew to show you how you were using verbs incorrectly for the interpretation you were trying to put forth. That's pretty dense dude. Seriously. It's like I tried to play chess with a pigeon and you just knocked the pieces off the board and took a crap on the middle of it and then strut it around like you won. What you feel realizes it wasn't a contest of who's right and who's wrong, it was God showing you grace and sending you the truth but now it will be judgment upon your head and you will be without excuse.