Since when did hospitals start caring about patients?????...my daughter is a surgical nurse...they work very hard under some very difficult conditions at times...lots of illnes in those that are vaxxed...obviously nurses are way under appreciated...
yes, it is. And hospitals are so used to just treating the staff any way they like, and nurses have been just taking it for so long. It's good to see these nurses standing up for themselves. I don't work in a hospital any more, and this is part of the reason. Nurses just leave the bedside, or go to travel to make money and have appropriate breaks between assignments. So maybe some changes will happen. I'm always hopeful that our health care will improve, from Pharma to health care staff, to facilities and treatment!
Well...we can hope...but I do believe the present system is totally broken and unsustainable...I believe only those hospitals that operate outside this closed system have any hope.
By us the smaller hospitals are being bought out by these mega hospital systems and the hospitals are building like crazy with all the covid money they got by killing and maiming people...sorry but that is the way I see it...I just thank God for medical personnel that resist and speak the truth...such as these nurses...
The same thing is happening by me. In fact, the current ceo of our county hospital gets a two million dollar bonus if he negotiates a sale while he is ceo.
At my wife's hospital the travelers are not allowed to work on certain patients like tramas children and SANE cases. I wonder if they locked out the ED nurses out too? They aren't required to strike at her hospital.
I wonder how many of the scabs are foreign nurses?
I had to deal with some of those foreign nurses when I was back in the Houston area. Those I was dealing with were as dumb as a rock, and lazy as they get to boot.
The thing is, this hospital is proving that they put profits over pt care. Travel nurse companies have a minimum contract of 3, 4, 5 days. But travelers are never as adept as staff nurses. They don't get much, if any, orientation; they aren't familiar with the hospital or their systems.
So for the hospital to not let the staff nurses come back in order to complete the traveler contract is exactly what the staff nurses are complaining about - the company puts profits over patient care.
Can you imagine being in a code while the traveler runs around to gather supplies? This hospital also has a big L & D unit - imagine how that's going.
The wife is a retired RN. My experience with them was in person with my son, but I have heard many tales from my wife of their incompetance. Far to many of them are coming from the turd world with dubious credentials and/or training.
The hospitals don't care they just want warm bodies.
Yes, that's correct. Are you following the DOJ story of the arrests of the nursing schools in Florida handing out fake diplomas? Seven thousand six hundred nurses "graduated" from those three schools.
I haven't been following them, but when my wife was going for her license they would let let them bring in phones, purses, or jewelry. They had caught to many passing their tests by using communication devices to the outside to get the answers to test questions. For some people, and especially some countries cheating is just business as usual.
So these schools are letting people buy their degree, coaching them on the NCLEX; then sending them to states with unlimited NCLEX testing, for example, NY. After they obtain licensure, they use their compact status to infiltrate other states. Eighty nine of them worked for the VA, all diversity hires. Twenty three in Texas. Twenty something in WA state. All of them with foreign names. The DOJ shut down the schools and the individual states are investigating/ prosecuting the nurses. That will be interesting bc each state has its own laws about impersonating a licensed professional.
I have worked with these diversity hires. They are lazy af and stupid, they tend to bunch up together on night shift and scream racism any time they have to be accountable for anything. Now we know why. Healthcare is just outrageous for all involved. I have no doubt that there are doctors who purchase their degrees as well.
The nurses went on strike, so much for them caring about the patients. They bailed on the patients so the hospital bailing on them is justified. And before you start down voting, I was trained in the Navy as a surgical tech and worked for 13 years in the private sector. I’ve seen both sides, both are to blame.
The nurses are unionized and met with management eight times. They announced a closed ended strike for one day when the hospital would not agree to basic safety in terms of staffing. Basic. The hospital chose the travelers over the nurses.
I respectfully disagree with you that both sides are to blame. Is this bad for the patients for one day? Yes. But what about day after day after day after day of short staffing? One shift short staffed can be disastrous for everyone involved. And hospitals have been doing this FOR YEARS.
I agree with you. It should have never gone this far. The ceo of this hospital made $13M last year. So I'm pretty sure they can afford that contract - pay it out - and bring the staff nurses back.
Stockholm Syndrome - that's a good description for it! If I had shown up for work and been locked out, I probably would have given my notice. My time, education, and skills are too valuable to put up with this kind of treatment.
I was in the ER for several hours with my 93 year old father. The hallway was filled with gurneys full of patients. A Nurse went up to an old black gentleman on a gurney to assess his problem. The guy asks "who are you?" The RN replies "I am your nurse". The old guy looks at him and loudly states "Nurse? Hell you look like a man to me!" I about laughed my ass off.
Since when did hospitals start caring about patients?????...my daughter is a surgical nurse...they work very hard under some very difficult conditions at times...lots of illnes in those that are vaxxed...obviously nurses are way under appreciated...
They don't, and they just proved it.
These nurses aren't asking for anything unreasonable - they want safe staffing levels.
And that is a MAJOR problem in all hospitals...
yes, it is. And hospitals are so used to just treating the staff any way they like, and nurses have been just taking it for so long. It's good to see these nurses standing up for themselves. I don't work in a hospital any more, and this is part of the reason. Nurses just leave the bedside, or go to travel to make money and have appropriate breaks between assignments. So maybe some changes will happen. I'm always hopeful that our health care will improve, from Pharma to health care staff, to facilities and treatment!
Well...we can hope...but I do believe the present system is totally broken and unsustainable...I believe only those hospitals that operate outside this closed system have any hope.
By us the smaller hospitals are being bought out by these mega hospital systems and the hospitals are building like crazy with all the covid money they got by killing and maiming people...sorry but that is the way I see it...I just thank God for medical personnel that resist and speak the truth...such as these nurses...
The same thing is happening by me. In fact, the current ceo of our county hospital gets a two million dollar bonus if he negotiates a sale while he is ceo.
At my wife's hospital the travelers are not allowed to work on certain patients like tramas children and SANE cases. I wonder if they locked out the ED nurses out too? They aren't required to strike at her hospital.
The information I've been able to dig up is pretty sparse
I wonder how many of the scabs are foreign nurses?
I had to deal with some of those foreign nurses when I was back in the Houston area. Those I was dealing with were as dumb as a rock, and lazy as they get to boot.
I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is many.
The thing is, this hospital is proving that they put profits over pt care. Travel nurse companies have a minimum contract of 3, 4, 5 days. But travelers are never as adept as staff nurses. They don't get much, if any, orientation; they aren't familiar with the hospital or their systems.
So for the hospital to not let the staff nurses come back in order to complete the traveler contract is exactly what the staff nurses are complaining about - the company puts profits over patient care.
Can you imagine being in a code while the traveler runs around to gather supplies? This hospital also has a big L & D unit - imagine how that's going.
I didn't realize you're a healthcare worker! RN?
The wife is a retired RN. My experience with them was in person with my son, but I have heard many tales from my wife of their incompetance. Far to many of them are coming from the turd world with dubious credentials and/or training.
The hospitals don't care they just want warm bodies.
Yes, that's correct. Are you following the DOJ story of the arrests of the nursing schools in Florida handing out fake diplomas? Seven thousand six hundred nurses "graduated" from those three schools.
I haven't been following them, but when my wife was going for her license they would let let them bring in phones, purses, or jewelry. They had caught to many passing their tests by using communication devices to the outside to get the answers to test questions. For some people, and especially some countries cheating is just business as usual.
So these schools are letting people buy their degree, coaching them on the NCLEX; then sending them to states with unlimited NCLEX testing, for example, NY. After they obtain licensure, they use their compact status to infiltrate other states. Eighty nine of them worked for the VA, all diversity hires. Twenty three in Texas. Twenty something in WA state. All of them with foreign names. The DOJ shut down the schools and the individual states are investigating/ prosecuting the nurses. That will be interesting bc each state has its own laws about impersonating a licensed professional.
I have worked with these diversity hires. They are lazy af and stupid, they tend to bunch up together on night shift and scream racism any time they have to be accountable for anything. Now we know why. Healthcare is just outrageous for all involved. I have no doubt that there are doctors who purchase their degrees as well.
The nurses went on strike, so much for them caring about the patients. They bailed on the patients so the hospital bailing on them is justified. And before you start down voting, I was trained in the Navy as a surgical tech and worked for 13 years in the private sector. I’ve seen both sides, both are to blame.
The nurses are unionized and met with management eight times. They announced a closed ended strike for one day when the hospital would not agree to basic safety in terms of staffing. Basic. The hospital chose the travelers over the nurses.
I respectfully disagree with you that both sides are to blame. Is this bad for the patients for one day? Yes. But what about day after day after day after day of short staffing? One shift short staffed can be disastrous for everyone involved. And hospitals have been doing this FOR YEARS.
If not these nurses, who?
If not now, when?
I agree with you. It should have never gone this far. The ceo of this hospital made $13M last year. So I'm pretty sure they can afford that contract - pay it out - and bring the staff nurses back.
Stockholm Syndrome - that's a good description for it! If I had shown up for work and been locked out, I probably would have given my notice. My time, education, and skills are too valuable to put up with this kind of treatment.
Boycott Ascension.
I was in the ER for several hours with my 93 year old father. The hallway was filled with gurneys full of patients. A Nurse went up to an old black gentleman on a gurney to assess his problem. The guy asks "who are you?" The RN replies "I am your nurse". The old guy looks at him and loudly states "Nurse? Hell you look like a man to me!" I about laughed my ass off.
Oh dear! Old people - gotta love them! Hope your father is okay!
Thanks, he passed at 94 with Alzheimers before the covid stuff hit. He had a good life, Navy WW II vet.
Awww, that is a good, long life. Appreciate his service.