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Here's a little background on how "humans descended from apes" theory being taught in schools
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/monkey-trial-begins
Personally I think any laws that outlaw teaching any theory, bound to doom. The best thing to do is to teach kids both theories in good faith and provide all contextual information like Darwin's background and opposition from other scientists and let the kids decide what they believe in.
Factual information provided without any guidance or moral value element is a dangerous thing. Information is like a loaded gun.
I think the best approach is to provide information but also inoculate the pupils at the same time. For example, I would share different views about Darwinism, but also add my personal belief or opinion, but emphasize that this is my opinion and how important it is for each person to formulate their own views, and why.
Probably basically what you are saying here.
I agree that any laws outlawing a particular theory are bound to fail, or at a minimum, have a detrimental effect. That said, age-appropriateness and context are critical.
The most important thing is to try to offer insight on what agendas MAY be lurking behind particular views, and emphasize why you believe what you do. If you're a good teacher, the children will respect and admire you.
Which is why I would give my opinion. If I'm not teaching my pupils in good faith, then why am I teaching?
The giving of the opinion has to be shaped in the right way, however. Why each of us should formulate our views (opinions), how we should treat other opinions, how we can learn from other or differing opinions.
One thing that has been bled dry from the modern teaching systems (aka public teaching, not homeschooling) is the character aspect, the development of becoming a moral and mature person of character. This entire dimension was bled dry, and then after disappearing, replaced with a completely evil system of Marxist thought.
I subscribe to this framework with regards to education. Education should be character education.
The first and most important education is education of heart. Developing a good heart, a strong conscience, an ability to reflect and grow into a responsible person, connect with the inner self.
The second most important education is education of norms and ethics. The ability to understand what healthy relationships are and build them. Whether in the family, in society, and anywhere one encounters others.
The third most important education is education for mastery, which essentially is education of information, techniques, and ideas that allow one to interact with and make a positive contribution to the world and express one's own unique value.
The modern system of education essentially uses a model of education established with the industrial revolution, and all but ignores the first and second aspects of education. More and more, our histories, and the examples of people of great character etc, are removed from the education program, replaced with indoctrination.
If the Marxist and Neo-Marxist teachers (those indoctrinated in neo-Marxism, whether they know it or not) were to preface their propaganda with educating about different views, the responsibility to form one's own opinions, and not push marxist doctrine as if it were factual, then yes, that would hinder their processes, I think.
Evolution: Personally, i believe we (the general 'we') still are missing key elements in the whole picture, and so as yet, generally speaking, we don't have an effective theory of creation that unites faith in and understanding of a Creator with the observable mechanics of how this aspect of nature works. We're getting closer, but not there yet.
To get there, we need to develop or uncover a comprehensive theory of Creation, including the purpose of creation, what fundamental principles underlie the creation process and which dictate how the created world operations. That theory must be able to incorporate and reconcile with observable scientific facts, including the role and purpose of human beings within the overall scheme of the universe.
That seems like a slippery slope, fren. Do we then teach kids they can be boys instead of girls, or cats, or whatever, and let them decide? You see what I'm saying?
My kids are adults, but I would definitely be homeschooling if they were not.
Kids should be taught the maths, basic science, like the difference between plant cells and animal cells, how they function, the elemental chart, simple atomic structure, geography, basic solar system stuff, the planets, the moon phases, bacteria stuff, geology, you know, earth science, what causes a volcano, soil structure, basic anatomy leaving off puberty stuff till middle school, completely referring to any gender discussions out of it, learn about digestion and heart rates, health class should talk about dangers of sugar, lack of excercise, basically things that should not be debated. American history should be at least a years worth of curriculum, with extra credit and book reports on keynotes of our history. Teach how a town gets established, how roads are built, teach literature and use reading as a way to learn vocabulary, how to use new words in sentences, definitions, have crafts again, arts and crafts, shop class. There was a time when NYC public schools gave you an education that today would qualify a person for an associates degree at the time of high school graduation. Curriculums changed, new math, something called whole reading or something, whole language reading, that did nothing but teach to the test and made it all dumbed down for critical thinking. Gender studies? phhht, maybe for a Masters Degree in something, not essential to our childrens minds. Teach about other cultures, sure, but not in some political frame, or with an agenda, just teach it, it used to be called social studies, about how other people lived in different cultures. When children have questions about things outside of the classroom , refer them to their parents, childrens opinions are not relevant outside of the subject being taught, so, avoid opinions until they are at the age of critical thinking. I just remember my early school years and how rich they were with the accent on reading, composition, vocabulary, book reports, and simple science facts about all sorts of everyday things. Now, the brighter kids get bored, the kids who need help get ignored or shoved into a category, and college grads do not know basic geography, the difference between the great plains or the west coast.
The older I get, The more I see that the Amish had it right all along.
We need to teach kids the scientific bases for how people claim boys can be girls, absolutely. Like this video does.
We also need to include everything about the detrans community, including stats about suicide rates, percentage of people who regret their choices, chronic complications, etc.
Light is the only antidote to darkness.
Great link. FYI, I was at a conference about 4 or 5 years back, and Quentin Van Meter was a guest, and presented this content.
Totally mind blowing, but really informs about the methodologies being used not only in this field, but others.