I'm not a christian, but I grew up in a Baptist household, so I have at least a passing understanding of the Bible. Lemme know if I got any wrong.
If I'm understanding the bible correctly;
God Created heaven and Earth, Including Mankind and Angels
God is all-knowing and all-powerful
Relevant to this discussion, God created Lucifer and all the angels who sided with him.
God made Man in His image, and ordered the angels to serve them.
Lucifer, prideful of his own beauty, and envious of God's (at least perceived) favoritism of Man, and of God's position, started a rebellion in heaven and was/will be cast down into the lake of fire(aka Hell).
lucifer later tempted/took the form of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden and tempted Eve to eat of the Tree of Knowledge.
my conclusion: God, with full knowledge of what lucifer would do/become created him and set him on the path that led to his downfall, and to the Sin of Mankind.
Or to put it more simply; God created Sin through his foreknowledge of what Lucifer would become.
I'm not trying to start a shitstorm here, but this is the logical conclusion that I find myself at.
Any Christian pedes wanna poke holes in this for me?
Maybe let C.S. Lewis explain it to you.
Mere Christianity The Shocking Alternative
So then God created Sin for freewill to flourish.
honestly, this is an interesting line of reasoning.
Like I said, I'm not trying to be an asshole, just sussing this out for myself
Did you listen to the C.S. Lewis audio I linked?
If you had, then you should have gleaned that God created creatures with free will in order for love to have meaning. What kind of love would it be if it weren't given freely. But a creature that is free to love, is also free to hate. The more capable the creature is, is it's ability to go right, or to go wrong.
You will not be able to understand truly how to spirit works through intellectual examination. When you repent of your sins, and genuinely ask Jesus Christ to come into you life, you will then be able to see things of the spirit.
I enjoy intellectual examination though. it's a reward in and of itself. just thinking and talking on things and seeing where the minds of other people and myself lead.
Yes, I listened to part of it, enough to glean the basic idea. There's an "no x without y" angle that I greatly appreciate and agree with. I feel the same about joy and suffering, honestly. How can you know Joy if you've never known Anguish?
Well if you like very stimulating intellectual arguments you will definitely enjoy listing the Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis who is unquestionably one of the foremost "thinkers" of the 20th century.
In Mere Christianity, Lewis, as he states, is not trying to turn his reader into a Christian, he is "Merely" explaining Christianity as he understands it.
Listening to his rational, logical argument on the points of the work, the way he used logic and language so effectively is like watching a top gymnast perform on the balanced beam, or listening to a great singer and saying to oneself, "Man I wish I had that talent." The works is in essence a intellectual. logical, rational explanation of why Lewis believes there is a God, and why Jesus is what the bible says he is.
Try listening to the full audio book, and see if you agree with me that it is a great pleasure to hear such a great thinker embodied with ingenious language skills explain a complex topic with such pure logic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj_qM3gWNtk
The universe is a container of action, reaction.... black, white.... yin, yang... good, evil... and multiple shades within, but in either case, you fall on either side of the spectrum depending on actions and choices, with free will to enable such choice, and consequences.