It depends on how you frame it. "It falls to us to save ourselves, and here's why" is a perfectly solid argument to make. I make it all the time. It seems to be well received. You can even use Q or "The Plan" to do it. I think The Plan is to teach us who we are, that we are the Sovereigns of our domain, to teach us what "Sovereignty" means, and what that domain (Jurisdiction) is. I have made that argument many times since there is so much evidence to support it.
Making your argument, whatever that may be, is the most important thing. It doesn't really matter how many see it the first time you make it.
I made an argument on Critical Thinking once. It got almost no views (30 likes maybe). Then, a few months later, I linked to it in another post as part of a different argument and then it got pinned. You never know when something will gain traction, or how ideas will seep into the social mindscape, but persistence and making the argument in the first place are essential elements of dissemination.
If you have something that you feel should be said, then say it. Just keep your audience in mind. If you feel it is likely to be dismissed, use a Rogerian approach, or otherwise give concessions where warranted. Don't make statements that smack of "this is the truth." This suggests "I know you are wrong" to anyone who has a different assessment, which immediately puts a persons back up. Rather say, "this is what I've found," or "what do you think of this?" or "maybe it's like this." The very best way to make statements is to not make them at all, rather show things with evidence.
You can't keep good ideas to yourself, but with persistence and care, you can make a good case. With feedback, both positive and negative, you can make a better argument the next time you want to put it forth.
Right. I've got some ideas. Been thinking about it for 6+ years now. I've floated some thoughts in the past with minimal positive reception. But there are always a few who it resonates with.
The sovereignty argument is a good one, if properly understood. The real challenge is that stating the facts upends some core, albeit mistaken, beliefs that mainstream Christians hold - cabal infused I might add. And I want them on my side of the argument. I don't wish to upset them. They're more able to hear and assimilate what I have to say then staunch atheists/agnostics. They just need to pivot their beliefs a few degrees. To date, I've only been successful in this endeavor with two mainstream Christians.
Bottom line though, we need them. They're vital players in this endeavor. But they've been very deeply brainwashed into the snap reaction "that's new age nonsense", not recognizing that what I'm saying is written in the bible, albeit the translation/understanding of it has been distorted.
So yes, it's the framing of the argument, I agree. It's the avoidance of alienating the largest group here (Christians) that must be taken into consideration. Perhaps the most difficult aspect is that with each fundamental point made, it takes quite a bit explaining to bring clarity. For example, if everybody clearly understood what I was saying, I could probably make my point in 4 or 5 paragraphs. But to carefully cover all the misunderstandings, "what-abouts", and "that doesn't match with the mainstream interpretation", I probably need 5-10 paragraphs to cover virtually every sentence. In short, the impact I know it could have almost requires 10-20 separate fairly lengthy posts. That might be a job for AshlandDog's format, which I know few people read.
Net-Net, what I'd like to share doesn't lend itself to a short form singular post if I'm going to get a lot of people on board. The people who would resonate with these ideas largely already know them.
The essence of my post would be around the key immutable laws of the universe, which we were not directly taught. How "reality" really works, in short. Categorized by many here as "new age nonsense", as per their deeply embedded brainwashing programs.
Suffice it to say, the vast majority here on GA, and around the world for that matter, are regularly breaking these universal laws 24x7x365. And this is why we find ourselves in the mess we're currently in. Pointing our fingers at "the bad guys" is triply-damaging -> projection+blame+retaliation. Three laws broken with this apparently singular action. The cabal knows these laws well. And this is why they will continue to parade the "bad guys" in front of the masses. This is fundamentally what keeps them in the positions they're currently in.
On the plus side, I can and will eventually write the post making it clear that it doesn't matter what you believe or don't believe. The only thing that matters is if you DO what is being suggested. Only then will you KNOW whether what I share is true or false. Thus, there's nothing to argue about.
Anyway, I appreciate all the tips and your encouragement. I do feel we're nearing a time when such a post will achieve greater acceptance here. When more and more are feeling a deeper sense of helplessness and hopelessness is the right time to expose them to these ideas, putting the power back in their hands instead of WAITING for Trump/Q to save the world and/or for the never-going-to-happen public hangings or Nuremberg trials for the "bad guys". In short, I'm anticipating a steeper precipice in the not-too-distant future.
And that's the main issue. It would be highly unlikely it gets pinned, which means maybe 40-50 people see it before it vanishes into the abyss.
Any suggestion I make that Q or Trump aren't going to save us all some day will not be well-regarded by the mods I suspect.
It depends on how you frame it. "It falls to us to save ourselves, and here's why" is a perfectly solid argument to make. I make it all the time. It seems to be well received. You can even use Q or "The Plan" to do it. I think The Plan is to teach us who we are, that we are the Sovereigns of our domain, to teach us what "Sovereignty" means, and what that domain (Jurisdiction) is. I have made that argument many times since there is so much evidence to support it.
Making your argument, whatever that may be, is the most important thing. It doesn't really matter how many see it the first time you make it.
I made an argument on Critical Thinking once. It got almost no views (30 likes maybe). Then, a few months later, I linked to it in another post as part of a different argument and then it got pinned. You never know when something will gain traction, or how ideas will seep into the social mindscape, but persistence and making the argument in the first place are essential elements of dissemination.
If you have something that you feel should be said, then say it. Just keep your audience in mind. If you feel it is likely to be dismissed, use a Rogerian approach, or otherwise give concessions where warranted. Don't make statements that smack of "this is the truth." This suggests "I know you are wrong" to anyone who has a different assessment, which immediately puts a persons back up. Rather say, "this is what I've found," or "what do you think of this?" or "maybe it's like this." The very best way to make statements is to not make them at all, rather show things with evidence.
You can't keep good ideas to yourself, but with persistence and care, you can make a good case. With feedback, both positive and negative, you can make a better argument the next time you want to put it forth.
Right. I've got some ideas. Been thinking about it for 6+ years now. I've floated some thoughts in the past with minimal positive reception. But there are always a few who it resonates with.
The sovereignty argument is a good one, if properly understood. The real challenge is that stating the facts upends some core, albeit mistaken, beliefs that mainstream Christians hold - cabal infused I might add. And I want them on my side of the argument. I don't wish to upset them. They're more able to hear and assimilate what I have to say then staunch atheists/agnostics. They just need to pivot their beliefs a few degrees. To date, I've only been successful in this endeavor with two mainstream Christians.
Bottom line though, we need them. They're vital players in this endeavor. But they've been very deeply brainwashed into the snap reaction "that's new age nonsense", not recognizing that what I'm saying is written in the bible, albeit the translation/understanding of it has been distorted.
So yes, it's the framing of the argument, I agree. It's the avoidance of alienating the largest group here (Christians) that must be taken into consideration. Perhaps the most difficult aspect is that with each fundamental point made, it takes quite a bit explaining to bring clarity. For example, if everybody clearly understood what I was saying, I could probably make my point in 4 or 5 paragraphs. But to carefully cover all the misunderstandings, "what-abouts", and "that doesn't match with the mainstream interpretation", I probably need 5-10 paragraphs to cover virtually every sentence. In short, the impact I know it could have almost requires 10-20 separate fairly lengthy posts. That might be a job for AshlandDog's format, which I know few people read.
Net-Net, what I'd like to share doesn't lend itself to a short form singular post if I'm going to get a lot of people on board. The people who would resonate with these ideas largely already know them.
The essence of my post would be around the key immutable laws of the universe, which we were not directly taught. How "reality" really works, in short. Categorized by many here as "new age nonsense", as per their deeply embedded brainwashing programs.
Suffice it to say, the vast majority here on GA, and around the world for that matter, are regularly breaking these universal laws 24x7x365. And this is why we find ourselves in the mess we're currently in. Pointing our fingers at "the bad guys" is triply-damaging -> projection+blame+retaliation. Three laws broken with this apparently singular action. The cabal knows these laws well. And this is why they will continue to parade the "bad guys" in front of the masses. This is fundamentally what keeps them in the positions they're currently in.
On the plus side, I can and will eventually write the post making it clear that it doesn't matter what you believe or don't believe. The only thing that matters is if you DO what is being suggested. Only then will you KNOW whether what I share is true or false. Thus, there's nothing to argue about.
Anyway, I appreciate all the tips and your encouragement. I do feel we're nearing a time when such a post will achieve greater acceptance here. When more and more are feeling a deeper sense of helplessness and hopelessness is the right time to expose them to these ideas, putting the power back in their hands instead of WAITING for Trump/Q to save the world and/or for the never-going-to-happen public hangings or Nuremberg trials for the "bad guys". In short, I'm anticipating a steeper precipice in the not-too-distant future.
If you do write any of this up, make sure you tag me so that I see it.
Will do! I will look forward to your feedback...