Early on I saw a video supposedly taken of the crash survivors on the plane before the crash, and in the water waiting to be rescued.
The plane appeared to have been set down in the water not crashed, and the plane stayed afloat for a long while after all passengers were out and floating away.
I also saw an internet video that was purported to show a scuba diver surfacing, and then Fuddy being pulled down. I did not see that on the video I had seen earlier, and I watched the whole thing again after seeing the video supposedly showing her being murdered.
That was the earlier video and pics I had seen. By the time I had decided capture the video I could not find that one, but found another that was in my opinion kind of odd. Either the guy with the camera kept doing a selfie or there was a guy with a law enforcement cap that kept getting directly in front of the camera, and the video did not focus on the people in the water.
Another thing that seemed strange to me was the people scattered out over a considerable distance. I would have thought if you went down in a plane ditch you would have tried to stay grouped for protection and better visibility.
Also you could see land not to far off. I would have thought the group would have made an effort to reach it.
I like to think that the frogman was actually US Marshal extracting her for her safety. That she's testifed at a tribunal and now is in witness protection.
Maybe someone who once dressed as mickey mouse was piloting the plane?
Sorry. Overthetop sarcasm.
I mean, sure, we can speculate ANYTHING.
But....
The presence of a frogman there would mean that (require) that they had a team ready to go, in the area, deployed for the arrival of the plane and the passengers.
No one else is reported to have died, and the crash was apparently NOT dangerous (aka a crash). I read somewhere that the plane was ditched into the ocean.
If the purpose was to kill her (have her die) then how? Via a crash? No crash. No one (else) died.
Her death was labeled as heart failure. Not drowning, not anything else.
If they had a team there to RESCUE her, then how was she meant to be killed in the first place?
Seems simply obviously unlikely that the incident was staged in order to whisk her away as part of a witness protection program. Far more likely, given all the facts, was that there was a plan to dump the plane in a specific location where a team was waiting to get to her and inject a heart-attack inducing substance and then leave her to die.
How would they spin it if she was removed from the site via secret rescue? The other people on the plane would see that she was not there. Then how could a story about heart failure be successfully maintained when there was no body, and a whole bunch of people could talk about and expose it?
This is one of the things about some of the theories around things that are happening in secret. Example. If Joe biden has been replaced by someone else in a mask, then HOW MANY PEOPLE who would know this and be exposed to it (family, etc) have to remain silent for this to be kept secret?
I heard today a theory that the writers / directors / actors strikes in Hollywood are all a cover because they have all been arrested!
I mean, uh, ok. So, how many people would have to say nothing in order to keep that cover story a secret? Families? Relatives? Friends? Colleagues? Thousands+ HOW would they be coerced into staying silent? Threat of action? That's not white hat methodology! (Shut up or we'll kill you / hurt you / take you to court / etc)
Is it possible that Fuddy (?) was whisked away? I mean, nothing wrong with asking questions and positing outside the box theories. Actually, its a good thing. But to me, its so speculative that I don't see how I could find any evidence or facts that would actually allow me to give anything but "this is pure speculation" to the idea.
For example, with Hollywood, let's say they have all been arrested.
How would you know? All we know is they are out of sight and they aren't working. It's not like you'll hear about their trials on the evening news.
I guess anything is possible, really. I do agree that the plane crash as an extraction for Fuddy seems implausible, but it also seems implausible that was orchestrated to murder her. I really don't know, tbh. So many mysteries.
RE: Fuddy, its the presence of the frogman that is almost impossible to explain otherwise. I recall reviewing the video back in the Q posting days, and the frogman is obvious. I do not think the hypothesis that it was a hit job is implausible at all. Not given the reported fact of her death, the nature of her death (cause), her connection to the birth certificate, the frogman. But as you say, we don't really know... we can merely speculate.
RE: how would you know? (Hollywood)
Postings on social media, news leaking out. Family members, colleagues, etc. Such a think would only appear on the MSM if there was a danger of the news surfacing and they would need to get ahead of the issue. But also MSM is not 100% controlled. They work in BIG narrative spins, and ignoring information, but not in actually suppressing information.
Anyone plugged in to the alt-media & certain social media channels knew ALL about the Covid19 pandemic, the vaccines, and dozens of other Covid-related topics. The information was everywhere. It just wasn't on the msm which was actively pushing a different narrative.
So, details about arrests and prosecutions of the artists, directors and writers in Hollywood? Nah. That information would certainly leak out and be subject to the vetting and re-vetting processes of the alt-media and social media hive mind.
I find the idea that they have all been arrested and no one has heard anything and no facts are emerging to be highly implausible.
I dunno. One of the criticism that my son has delivered to me in the past is that I am way too overconfident in my opinions and my belief in that I know what's what.
Something to think about.
Thanks for sharing an alternate view in the face of my obstinate verbosity.
This is a great site for Obama/Fuddy info, it hasn't been active for quite a while but the info is still there. She did a ton of work.
https://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/
Early on I saw a video supposedly taken of the crash survivors on the plane before the crash, and in the water waiting to be rescued.
The plane appeared to have been set down in the water not crashed, and the plane stayed afloat for a long while after all passengers were out and floating away.
I also saw an internet video that was purported to show a scuba diver surfacing, and then Fuddy being pulled down. I did not see that on the video I had seen earlier, and I watched the whole thing again after seeing the video supposedly showing her being murdered.
https://accidentalpatriot4.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/see-how-loretta-fuddy-was-murdered-photos-beyond-frightening/
This site breaks down the images of the crash. You can absolutely see a scuba diver come up from the water, right next to Loretta.
That was the earlier video and pics I had seen. By the time I had decided capture the video I could not find that one, but found another that was in my opinion kind of odd. Either the guy with the camera kept doing a selfie or there was a guy with a law enforcement cap that kept getting directly in front of the camera, and the video did not focus on the people in the water.
Another thing that seemed strange to me was the people scattered out over a considerable distance. I would have thought if you went down in a plane ditch you would have tried to stay grouped for protection and better visibility.
Also you could see land not to far off. I would have thought the group would have made an effort to reach it.
Yes! That was bizarre. Cant find it anymore, if anyone else can, please share.
I love that the focus suddenly shifted to Obama.
I've been waiting for this
I like to think that the frogman was actually US Marshal extracting her for her safety. That she's testifed at a tribunal and now is in witness protection.
Do you really think they would crash a plane in order to extract her, when there are many other safer and less obvious ways to do it?
I think this is wishful thinking.
Q said 70% of airplane crashes are hits. Maybe this is a method of choice.
Possibly. FWIW, based on available evidence, I definitely think this was a hit and not a rescue (extraction) operation.
Maybe she was supposed to die but was really rescued.
Maybe someone who once dressed as mickey mouse was piloting the plane?
Sorry. Overthetop sarcasm.
I mean, sure, we can speculate ANYTHING.
But....
The presence of a frogman there would mean that (require) that they had a team ready to go, in the area, deployed for the arrival of the plane and the passengers.
No one else is reported to have died, and the crash was apparently NOT dangerous (aka a crash). I read somewhere that the plane was ditched into the ocean.
If the purpose was to kill her (have her die) then how? Via a crash? No crash. No one (else) died.
Her death was labeled as heart failure. Not drowning, not anything else.
If they had a team there to RESCUE her, then how was she meant to be killed in the first place?
Seems simply obviously unlikely that the incident was staged in order to whisk her away as part of a witness protection program. Far more likely, given all the facts, was that there was a plan to dump the plane in a specific location where a team was waiting to get to her and inject a heart-attack inducing substance and then leave her to die.
How would they spin it if she was removed from the site via secret rescue? The other people on the plane would see that she was not there. Then how could a story about heart failure be successfully maintained when there was no body, and a whole bunch of people could talk about and expose it?
This is one of the things about some of the theories around things that are happening in secret. Example. If Joe biden has been replaced by someone else in a mask, then HOW MANY PEOPLE who would know this and be exposed to it (family, etc) have to remain silent for this to be kept secret?
I heard today a theory that the writers / directors / actors strikes in Hollywood are all a cover because they have all been arrested!
I mean, uh, ok. So, how many people would have to say nothing in order to keep that cover story a secret? Families? Relatives? Friends? Colleagues? Thousands+ HOW would they be coerced into staying silent? Threat of action? That's not white hat methodology! (Shut up or we'll kill you / hurt you / take you to court / etc)
Is it possible that Fuddy (?) was whisked away? I mean, nothing wrong with asking questions and positing outside the box theories. Actually, its a good thing. But to me, its so speculative that I don't see how I could find any evidence or facts that would actually allow me to give anything but "this is pure speculation" to the idea.
Ask yourself this, though, fren
For example, with Hollywood, let's say they have all been arrested.
How would you know? All we know is they are out of sight and they aren't working. It's not like you'll hear about their trials on the evening news.
I guess anything is possible, really. I do agree that the plane crash as an extraction for Fuddy seems implausible, but it also seems implausible that was orchestrated to murder her. I really don't know, tbh. So many mysteries.
RE: Fuddy, its the presence of the frogman that is almost impossible to explain otherwise. I recall reviewing the video back in the Q posting days, and the frogman is obvious. I do not think the hypothesis that it was a hit job is implausible at all. Not given the reported fact of her death, the nature of her death (cause), her connection to the birth certificate, the frogman. But as you say, we don't really know... we can merely speculate.
RE: how would you know? (Hollywood)
Postings on social media, news leaking out. Family members, colleagues, etc. Such a think would only appear on the MSM if there was a danger of the news surfacing and they would need to get ahead of the issue. But also MSM is not 100% controlled. They work in BIG narrative spins, and ignoring information, but not in actually suppressing information.
Anyone plugged in to the alt-media & certain social media channels knew ALL about the Covid19 pandemic, the vaccines, and dozens of other Covid-related topics. The information was everywhere. It just wasn't on the msm which was actively pushing a different narrative.
So, details about arrests and prosecutions of the artists, directors and writers in Hollywood? Nah. That information would certainly leak out and be subject to the vetting and re-vetting processes of the alt-media and social media hive mind.
I find the idea that they have all been arrested and no one has heard anything and no facts are emerging to be highly implausible.
Fair enough.
I dunno. One of the criticism that my son has delivered to me in the past is that I am way too overconfident in my opinions and my belief in that I know what's what.
Something to think about.
Thanks for sharing an alternate view in the face of my obstinate verbosity.
I have thought this too.
u/#q3518
The simple answer is: she didnt.