Some bad actors will see the light, and it's going to rub some people the wrong way because there will be those of us who think they should have been punished.
America has learned that sometimes there is more value in a cooperating, free enemy. Think operation paperclip.
There's going to be heads that DON'T roll, even though people think they should. We don't know who all the white hats are going to be. Hell, they might not even realize it yet themselves. Did Werner Von Braun think he was going to be famous as an American rocket scientist? Probably not while he was in Germany.
There is a place for mercy within justice, when it serves the greater good.
That's just an excellent response regarding what the possible meanings of that statement from Q actually meant!
Even more savvy of u/VulgarProfit to pose the question; very timely, in relation to where we're at in "the movie" if you will.
I think both of you guys are quite near the bullseye on this one. However something initially struck me when I read through both of your posts that I felt might be worth adding on.
It might just be my sense of things, but don't you feel like when people first read that statement from Q, before it had the delta and before we had the benefit of hindsight, *they were taking it to perhaps mean something just the opposite of the angle u/kish_kumen now proposes?
What I mean by that is once upon a time, before the [DS] drove our country off a fucking cliff there was some LOUD MEAN OLD SNATCHGRABBER in charge.
If I remember correct, this asshole fascist was pissing off the world with his expert work in foreign relations, also by building back the U.S. Armed Forces military might to usher in a period of relative peacetime. THEN THIS WHITE SUPREMACIST BIGOT WAS cutting regulations and taxes, adding in common sense incentives for businesses large and small and Americans of every income level, while also rebalancing trade and making our partner nations comply with policies that were in the best interests of our country instead of just taking billions out of Dad's wallet and telling him to fuck off, like they did under every President for the last 75 years or so. All of this bullshit that this CRIMINAL COMPROMISED RUSSIAN SPY OF A PRESIDENT DID was causing a lot of problems, for example the BEST ECONOMIC CONDITIONS Americans had lived through in what feels like centuries, ALSO RESTABILIZING OUR POSITION AS THE DE FACTO LEADER THAT NO ONE WANTED TO FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT ON IN AN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE WORLD? Oh yeah and the conditions domestically were pretty CALM AND DECENT as well, in fact everything was moving in a pretty orderly fashion and MAYBE EVEN (as Trump now says sometimes) about to start BOOMING UPWARDS in terms of standard of living and political differences also starting to be erased... till theunspecified virus of UNKNOWN ORIGINanyway...
So you know, we had a lot of problems and everyone knew he was secretly a piece of shit. I mean personally I'm doing fine, now that we got rid of those FUCKING AWFUL mean Tweets! My feelings DON'T HURT ANYMORE! THANK GAWD!
Anywho... back then, ironically enough, there WEREN'T TOO MANY OF US who knew, and even out of the very small slice that we were back then, I'd definitely wager that a decent percentage of us folks who were "in" on Q (so to speak) were a little bit shaky in terms of their convictions and how much stock they really put into it. I'd say 1 out of 5, maybe even as much as 1/3 of all the Q followers, GAW readership and the like were probably apoplectic on how much they "bought it". There was still a lot of in-fighting and much talk about it being a LARP, so much the same as the "silent" Trump voter of '16, I think a good deal of people were just Q curious, if you will (LOL 🤣🥵) not ready to "come out" ( 😭🤢) as believers in any of this seemingly CRAZY stuff.
Even as 🤡 World was encroaching from all sides on us, in plain sight, most people who were up on Q found it difficult to put themselves forward as a 100% believer, and there was a strong notion in the ranks to 'take it with a grain of salt' and not ALL OF THIS was TOTALLY LITERAL or MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS SO. I mean, y'know, eating babies and drinking blood n all. I mean, am I right, or am I right??
Funny how that worked out, huh!? 2020 was a game-FUCKING-changer and I will speak from personal experience. I hung out on the fence for a LONG WHILE, and just wasn't watching anything with politics from 2016 to 2019.
When Mueller closed Russiagate with nothing, I got all the way woken up. That put me on Trump's side 100% although i had been inching towards that since a few months into his presidency when World War 3 didn't happen and I got a nicer tax return. WTF, this guy isn't half bad. And now he IS NOT A RUSSIAN after 3 years of CONSTANT BULLSHIT!? OK THEN I THINK ITS TIME TO FUCK OFF I DON'T TRUST YOU PSYCHOS ANYMORE. Rolling with the one you love to hate, because that's my preferred wave in life anyway. IDGAF what you think of me; what you DO is all there is.
The 2020 election made me a FULL ON FROG. No going back; DIS IS DA LIFE WE CHOSE, I CAN'T GIVE YA A PASS, TESS! The whole year was a shitpile of INSANITY the likes of which we may never see again, even as the CLOWNS CONTINUED TO UP THE ANTE UNTIL THIS VERY DAY. Covid and the George Floyd psyops were weird and fake enough; but I gotta say, those days in November thru to February just sent me into a tailspin. Part of coming to GAW and learning much much more deeply about Q was simply **not being able to handle the SHITTY DOOMING and OPPRESSIVE NEGATIVITY of certain other ::ahem:: communities.
So I went into excruciating detail here just to try and get everyone locked into the mental space of what things were like back then. Whether you came over to Q before any of that or even if you still haven't, there is NO DOUBT that the world has changed TREMENDOUSLY since the first Q post, and I'd argue the rate of change is ACCELERATING and not likely to slow down any time soon.
In times of drastic change and upheaval within day to day life, its easier and actually sensible for people to look at the situation and latch onto the conclusions that seem the MOST WILD and ABNORMAL of all. It makes sense. When there's turmoil, our senses are heightened, adrenaline slows and alters our perception of time, pupils dilate with the expectation we will need to see colors more vividly, to spot the leopard through dense jungle and many different hues of green. In the modern world we have the same physical responses to fear or anxiety over an unknown danger we can collectively feel approaching us. Is any of it still useful? Well, a state of alarm causes more imaginative thinking.
When we see things we've never seen before - election rituals violated, weird, GIANT BIBLES that look like a prop fron EVIL DEAD - THOUSANDS of National Guard encircling the city to defend against some threat that never comes as the Inauguration ceremonies begin - and a ghost town left to cheer and welcome the Candidate who received the most votes in American history, over 81 million strong, all of whom seemingly were passionate enough to cast their vote BUT NOT EXCITED ENOUGH to show up and engage in celebrations for their same chosen man, a tradition which was never broken before, even in the most low energy, minimal participation Presidential elections in our history. Small pockets of jubilation seemingly created just for TV crews to film; a certain plasticity and numbness that pervades it all, and another feeling now growing stronger and trying to gain entry into our collective human spirit: dread.
Even as the existential horror began to at last grip the many numb and confused souls among us, and we prepared ourselves for this long march into darkness, where we still are trekking deeper into today....
No one would have believed that THIS MANY PEOPLE would be activated, scales removed from their eyes, and their compunctions absolutely upended from what they had known, believed, and worked to support for their entire lives prior to this!
A thing like Q was NEVER going to be a 1 in 5 people type of thing, right? I couldn't have seen it being much more than 1 in 20, maybe 1 in 10 if ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING went right and we succeeded with every aspect.
NO ONE KNEW THIS MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE WAKING UP AND STARTING TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE! HELL, MOST OF US WHO DID BELIEVE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WAS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE NO MATTER HOW BIZARRE IT SEEMED BACK WHEN LIFE WAS 'NORMAL'. ITS A TESTAMENT TO THE REDEEMING QUALITIES OF MAN, AND HOW TRUTH ABIDES IN ALL OF US, AND EVEN THE MOST STUBBORN OF INDIVIDUALS WHO DENY WHAT IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND THEM SEEM TO FIND A MOMENT, SOMETHING THAT ETCHES ITSELF INTO THEIR MEMORY AND WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN OR ERASED, UNTIL THEY EVENTUALLY LET OUT A DEFEATED SIGH, IN THE REALIZATION THAT THEY WERE TRICKED, AND HAVE BEEN USED AS A TOOL BY AN UNCARING AND DISPASSIONATE GROUP OF MASTERS WHO CARE NOT FOR THEM.
So when you say "the ending won't be for everyone" and consider the implications to mean that some of us IN THE MAJORITY will be left unsatisfied, because most likely NOT ALL THE EVIL DOERS WILL GET THE PUNISHMENTS BEFITTING OF THEM, its understood well in this moment in time.
But its one HELL of a CRAZY RIDE and something TRULY AMAZING that we are in this place at all, where the ACTUAL OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF AMERICANS are awake and aware, with a shared goal of seeing these demons slain once and for all. You could have NEVER convinced me it would be this many - 70, 80, 90 percent in strong agreement, not holding back at all.
In 2018, there were far fewer of us clued in, and as I mentioned, the willingness to come forward and claim these tenets as TRUTHS and believe that they would come to pass and be exposed to a knowing public that was already keen to all of it and just waiting on the murder weapon to be located... well, it sounded like a pipe dream then.
I took "the end won't be for everyone" back then to mean that there would be fierce division among the country and many, many doubting Thomas types who would refuse to believe their own eyes and ears. "The end won't be for everyone" was SUPPOSED to mean that when we caught them all and got to show it, there would be a sizable number of our fellow citizens who just wouldn't budge no matter what they were shown.
I still believed that in 2020, when a security camera in Georgia showed them pulling suitcases full of ballots out from under tables just as soon as the rabble had left, and STILL the normies and their Gods, the hosts of the news shows, chimed in unison TRUMP LOST NO FRAUD. If this couldn't convince them, what would?
I discounted the power of the purse. When people got punched in the wallet, once, and then again, and now many, many times... well, that opened their minds to new perspectives, it seems.
In 2018 the narrative belonged to the media. In 2020, despite MASSIVE SACRIFICES TO THEIR CREDIBILITY, they still hung onto control... as unbelievable as it was to me. Seeing it now, and in considering your question about what it meant, "the end won't be for everyone"....
I can finally see that it HAD TO BE THIS WAY. The flagrant abuses of power, the death jabs mandated by the Federal government, the indignities suffered by Catholics, parents, children in schools, medical professionals, policemen, teachers, you name it. We've been censored, cancelled, mandated, death poked and used like chattel. And as a cherry on top, the many billions in a proxy war with Ukraine, as the homeland is imvaded through the Southern border and the country wastes away. 2021 and 2022 did it, they broke it all open. I didn't know it would ever happen or even if it did, I didn't know just how many people would be standing up and no longer afraid to be silent. They pushed the average American too far, finally.
And so this is an example of something from Q that takes on a drastically different meaning to us today then the one it had years ago. That's the truly unreal part of these posts - their meanings continue to shape and evolve as time passes and this all plays out. Don't you think so too?
I do definitely see it differently as time passes, it doesn't feel to me though that there's an overwhelming number of people that are awake although you may be right. I live in a neoliberal area so it can be kind of discouraging. But then I see big comedians like Jim Breuer making fun of the deep state to huge crowds...
Trump retruthing this link perked me back up to start wondering how this plays out again, I've been coming here more out of habit and basic news more than anything for a while now. https://twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1688335185933144065
Paul in the Bible deserved no mercy as he was persecuting and killing Christians, yet Jesus called him after he rose and ascended to heaven and gave him grace. He was the worst.
I have done some awful things and deserved no mercy, yet God gave me grace and forgave me. Therefore I can forgive the repentant.
When my Grama was two weeks shy of her 88th birthday, she lived alone (shortly before a dementia diagnosis) a drunk man broke in to her house and spent the night beating her up and raping her. At his sentencing friends and family were there and everyone else told him and the judge he should rot in hell and be put away for the rest of his life. He had just given what seemed a very sincere apology and begged forgiveness. (Grama wouldn’t go out of fear he’d hurt her again) I told him that would take time but I promised to be praying for him that he would come out of prison a changed man and I kept my promise.
That not everyone will like what happens.
Some bad actors will see the light, and it's going to rub some people the wrong way because there will be those of us who think they should have been punished.
America has learned that sometimes there is more value in a cooperating, free enemy. Think operation paperclip.
There's going to be heads that DON'T roll, even though people think they should. We don't know who all the white hats are going to be. Hell, they might not even realize it yet themselves. Did Werner Von Braun think he was going to be famous as an American rocket scientist? Probably not while he was in Germany.
There is a place for mercy within justice, when it serves the greater good.
That's just an excellent response regarding what the possible meanings of that statement from Q actually meant!
Even more savvy of u/VulgarProfit to pose the question; very timely, in relation to where we're at in "the movie" if you will.
I think both of you guys are quite near the bullseye on this one. However something initially struck me when I read through both of your posts that I felt might be worth adding on.
It might just be my sense of things, but don't you feel like when people first read that statement from Q, before it had the delta and before we had the benefit of hindsight, *they were taking it to perhaps mean something just the opposite of the angle u/kish_kumen now proposes?
What I mean by that is once upon a time, before the [DS] drove our country off a fucking cliff there was some LOUD MEAN OLD SNATCHGRABBER in charge. If I remember correct, this asshole fascist was pissing off the world with his expert work in foreign relations, also by building back the U.S. Armed Forces military might to usher in a period of relative peacetime. THEN THIS WHITE SUPREMACIST BIGOT WAS cutting regulations and taxes, adding in common sense incentives for businesses large and small and Americans of every income level, while also rebalancing trade and making our partner nations comply with policies that were in the best interests of our country instead of just taking billions out of Dad's wallet and telling him to fuck off, like they did under every President for the last 75 years or so. All of this bullshit that this CRIMINAL COMPROMISED RUSSIAN SPY OF A PRESIDENT DID was causing a lot of problems, for example the BEST ECONOMIC CONDITIONS Americans had lived through in what feels like centuries, ALSO RESTABILIZING OUR POSITION AS THE DE FACTO LEADER THAT NO ONE WANTED TO FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT ON IN AN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE WORLD? Oh yeah and the conditions domestically were pretty CALM AND DECENT as well, in fact everything was moving in a pretty orderly fashion and MAYBE EVEN (as Trump now says sometimes) about to start BOOMING UPWARDS in terms of standard of living and political differences also starting to be erased... till the unspecified virus of UNKNOWN ORIGIN anyway...
So you know, we had a lot of problems and everyone knew he was secretly a piece of shit. I mean personally I'm doing fine, now that we got rid of those FUCKING AWFUL mean Tweets! My feelings DON'T HURT ANYMORE! THANK GAWD!
Anywho... back then, ironically enough, there WEREN'T TOO MANY OF US who knew, and even out of the very small slice that we were back then, I'd definitely wager that a decent percentage of us folks who were "in" on Q (so to speak) were a little bit shaky in terms of their convictions and how much stock they really put into it. I'd say 1 out of 5, maybe even as much as 1/3 of all the Q followers, GAW readership and the like were probably apoplectic on how much they "bought it". There was still a lot of in-fighting and much talk about it being a LARP, so much the same as the "silent" Trump voter of '16, I think a good deal of people were just Q curious, if you will (LOL 🤣🥵) not ready to "come out" ( 😭🤢) as believers in any of this seemingly CRAZY stuff.
Even as 🤡 World was encroaching from all sides on us, in plain sight, most people who were up on Q found it difficult to put themselves forward as a 100% believer, and there was a strong notion in the ranks to 'take it with a grain of salt' and not ALL OF THIS was TOTALLY LITERAL or MEANT TO BE TAKEN AS SO. I mean, y'know, eating babies and drinking blood n all. I mean, am I right, or am I right??
Funny how that worked out, huh!? 2020 was a game-FUCKING-changer and I will speak from personal experience. I hung out on the fence for a LONG WHILE, and just wasn't watching anything with politics from 2016 to 2019.
When Mueller closed Russiagate with nothing, I got all the way woken up. That put me on Trump's side 100% although i had been inching towards that since a few months into his presidency when World War 3 didn't happen and I got a nicer tax return. WTF, this guy isn't half bad. And now he IS NOT A RUSSIAN after 3 years of CONSTANT BULLSHIT!? OK THEN I THINK ITS TIME TO FUCK OFF I DON'T TRUST YOU PSYCHOS ANYMORE. Rolling with the one you love to hate, because that's my preferred wave in life anyway. IDGAF what you think of me; what you DO is all there is.
The 2020 election made me a FULL ON FROG. No going back; DIS IS DA LIFE WE CHOSE, I CAN'T GIVE YA A PASS, TESS! The whole year was a shitpile of INSANITY the likes of which we may never see again, even as the CLOWNS CONTINUED TO UP THE ANTE UNTIL THIS VERY DAY. Covid and the George Floyd psyops were weird and fake enough; but I gotta say, those days in November thru to February just sent me into a tailspin. Part of coming to GAW and learning much much more deeply about Q was simply **not being able to handle the SHITTY DOOMING and OPPRESSIVE NEGATIVITY of certain other ::ahem:: communities.
So I went into excruciating detail here just to try and get everyone locked into the mental space of what things were like back then. Whether you came over to Q before any of that or even if you still haven't, there is NO DOUBT that the world has changed TREMENDOUSLY since the first Q post, and I'd argue the rate of change is ACCELERATING and not likely to slow down any time soon.
In times of drastic change and upheaval within day to day life, its easier and actually sensible for people to look at the situation and latch onto the conclusions that seem the MOST WILD and ABNORMAL of all. It makes sense. When there's turmoil, our senses are heightened, adrenaline slows and alters our perception of time, pupils dilate with the expectation we will need to see colors more vividly, to spot the leopard through dense jungle and many different hues of green. In the modern world we have the same physical responses to fear or anxiety over an unknown danger we can collectively feel approaching us. Is any of it still useful? Well, a state of alarm causes more imaginative thinking.
When we see things we've never seen before - election rituals violated, weird, GIANT BIBLES that look like a prop fron EVIL DEAD - THOUSANDS of National Guard encircling the city to defend against some threat that never comes as the Inauguration ceremonies begin - and a ghost town left to cheer and welcome the Candidate who received the most votes in American history, over 81 million strong, all of whom seemingly were passionate enough to cast their vote BUT NOT EXCITED ENOUGH to show up and engage in celebrations for their same chosen man, a tradition which was never broken before, even in the most low energy, minimal participation Presidential elections in our history. Small pockets of jubilation seemingly created just for TV crews to film; a certain plasticity and numbness that pervades it all, and another feeling now growing stronger and trying to gain entry into our collective human spirit: dread.
Even as the existential horror began to at last grip the many numb and confused souls among us, and we prepared ourselves for this long march into darkness, where we still are trekking deeper into today....
No one would have believed that THIS MANY PEOPLE would be activated, scales removed from their eyes, and their compunctions absolutely upended from what they had known, believed, and worked to support for their entire lives prior to this!
A thing like Q was NEVER going to be a 1 in 5 people type of thing, right? I couldn't have seen it being much more than 1 in 20, maybe 1 in 10 if ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING went right and we succeeded with every aspect.
NO ONE KNEW THIS MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE WAKING UP AND STARTING TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE! HELL, MOST OF US WHO DID BELIEVE DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF IT WAS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE NO MATTER HOW BIZARRE IT SEEMED BACK WHEN LIFE WAS 'NORMAL'. ITS A TESTAMENT TO THE REDEEMING QUALITIES OF MAN, AND HOW TRUTH ABIDES IN ALL OF US, AND EVEN THE MOST STUBBORN OF INDIVIDUALS WHO DENY WHAT IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND THEM SEEM TO FIND A MOMENT, SOMETHING THAT ETCHES ITSELF INTO THEIR MEMORY AND WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN OR ERASED, UNTIL THEY EVENTUALLY LET OUT A DEFEATED SIGH, IN THE REALIZATION THAT THEY WERE TRICKED, AND HAVE BEEN USED AS A TOOL BY AN UNCARING AND DISPASSIONATE GROUP OF MASTERS WHO CARE NOT FOR THEM.
So when you say "the ending won't be for everyone" and consider the implications to mean that some of us IN THE MAJORITY will be left unsatisfied, because most likely NOT ALL THE EVIL DOERS WILL GET THE PUNISHMENTS BEFITTING OF THEM, its understood well in this moment in time.
But its one HELL of a CRAZY RIDE and something TRULY AMAZING that we are in this place at all, where the ACTUAL OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF AMERICANS are awake and aware, with a shared goal of seeing these demons slain once and for all. You could have NEVER convinced me it would be this many - 70, 80, 90 percent in strong agreement, not holding back at all.
In 2018, there were far fewer of us clued in, and as I mentioned, the willingness to come forward and claim these tenets as TRUTHS and believe that they would come to pass and be exposed to a knowing public that was already keen to all of it and just waiting on the murder weapon to be located... well, it sounded like a pipe dream then.
I took "the end won't be for everyone" back then to mean that there would be fierce division among the country and many, many doubting Thomas types who would refuse to believe their own eyes and ears. "The end won't be for everyone" was SUPPOSED to mean that when we caught them all and got to show it, there would be a sizable number of our fellow citizens who just wouldn't budge no matter what they were shown.
I still believed that in 2020, when a security camera in Georgia showed them pulling suitcases full of ballots out from under tables just as soon as the rabble had left, and STILL the normies and their Gods, the hosts of the news shows, chimed in unison TRUMP LOST NO FRAUD. If this couldn't convince them, what would?
I discounted the power of the purse. When people got punched in the wallet, once, and then again, and now many, many times... well, that opened their minds to new perspectives, it seems.
In 2018 the narrative belonged to the media. In 2020, despite MASSIVE SACRIFICES TO THEIR CREDIBILITY, they still hung onto control... as unbelievable as it was to me. Seeing it now, and in considering your question about what it meant, "the end won't be for everyone"....
I can finally see that it HAD TO BE THIS WAY. The flagrant abuses of power, the death jabs mandated by the Federal government, the indignities suffered by Catholics, parents, children in schools, medical professionals, policemen, teachers, you name it. We've been censored, cancelled, mandated, death poked and used like chattel. And as a cherry on top, the many billions in a proxy war with Ukraine, as the homeland is imvaded through the Southern border and the country wastes away. 2021 and 2022 did it, they broke it all open. I didn't know it would ever happen or even if it did, I didn't know just how many people would be standing up and no longer afraid to be silent. They pushed the average American too far, finally.
And so this is an example of something from Q that takes on a drastically different meaning to us today then the one it had years ago. That's the truly unreal part of these posts - their meanings continue to shape and evolve as time passes and this all plays out. Don't you think so too?
I do definitely see it differently as time passes, it doesn't feel to me though that there's an overwhelming number of people that are awake although you may be right. I live in a neoliberal area so it can be kind of discouraging. But then I see big comedians like Jim Breuer making fun of the deep state to huge crowds... Trump retruthing this link perked me back up to start wondering how this plays out again, I've been coming here more out of habit and basic news more than anything for a while now. https://twitter.com/Yolo304741/status/1688335185933144065
Upvote for Evil Dead reference lol
Paul in the Bible deserved no mercy as he was persecuting and killing Christians, yet Jesus called him after he rose and ascended to heaven and gave him grace. He was the worst. I have done some awful things and deserved no mercy, yet God gave me grace and forgave me. Therefore I can forgive the repentant. When my Grama was two weeks shy of her 88th birthday, she lived alone (shortly before a dementia diagnosis) a drunk man broke in to her house and spent the night beating her up and raping her. At his sentencing friends and family were there and everyone else told him and the judge he should rot in hell and be put away for the rest of his life. He had just given what seemed a very sincere apology and begged forgiveness. (Grama wouldn’t go out of fear he’d hurt her again) I told him that would take time but I promised to be praying for him that he would come out of prison a changed man and I kept my promise.
Mercy cannot rob justice - but they can certainly compromise.