Devil's advocate - it's pretty obvious that this is incredibly well timed. As much as Barr // Pence appear to be pieces of shit, treasonous bastards, it really does seem like it may have HAD to happen this way. And Barr / Wray / Pence / Sessions / etc... all had roles to play, fucked up roles that made them seem like absolute barrel bottom scum sucking cunts... but roles nonetheless.
Perhaps their roles were the payment to avoid Gitmo for past misdeeds?
Or perhaps they are deep state snakes and Trump simply already knew they would have done this, and the Q posts announcing "Trust" was to bait them into confidently moving ahead with their black hat demands.
I have no idea. And I think that's the point. Because if WE don't know WTF the answer is, who's acting vs. who's actual useless scum, then the sheep and the MSM certainly don't know.
Gina Haspel ? Chris Christy ? Anthony Scaramuchi ? Mitch Mc Connell ? Ron De Santis ? - the list can go ooooooon and on. The "One Thing" that most Americans do not do - is do their "Due Diligence" and look into these people's past , and who has been in their inner circle in the past as well.
Yes. My big question is: where is Gina Haspel? She supposedly got shot in a firefight on election night in Germany. Soooo, what happened after that? I saw a press release but proof of life? Not yet. I think she has a lot to do with this whole situation, especially since she was very tight with John O. Brennan. That guy is a treasonous asshole. I’ll take it back if I find out otherwise. Spelling edit
King & Spalding is an international law firm providing clients a consistent, uncompromising approach to quality from its 23 offices worldwide.
Very prestigious, as I understand. Interesting the people who have worked there. Some, multple times over the years.
Gina Haspel:
Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Gina Haspel is a senior national security advisor for King & Spalding's National Security and Corporate Espionage practice.
Gina Haspel oversaw a C.I.A. black site in Thailand before becoming the agency's director in 2018.
Guess who went before her?
Rod [J. Rosenstein] served in leadership positions in the U.S. Department of Justice during the administrations of Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump, ...
How 'bout this one?
[Christopher A.] Wray joined King & Spalding in 2005 as a litigation partner in the firm's Washington, D.C., and Atlanta offices. Wray represented several Fortune 100 companies ...
before being appointed by President Donald J. Trump in 2017
From January 2016 to July 2017, the month of his confirmation, Wray earned $9.2 million working as an attorney for the law firm King & Spalding
Or this one?
[Sally] Yates, fired by President Trump last year, rejoins the Atlanta law firm she worked for before her 27-year career in the Justice Department.
And there's this:
King & Spalding has become one of a handful of go-to firms for lawyers to fill Trump administration posts.
International trade partner Gil Kaplan appeared for his Senate confirmation hearing as under secretary of international trade at the Department of Commerce on Thursday morning. If confirmed, he'll be the sixth lawyer to join the Trump administration from the Atlanta-based firm.
I'm sure there's more but, I stopped searching after that. I'm sure it goes on and on and on, (kind of like this reply 😄). Seems like anybody who's anybody has worked there.
These people just walk through a series of revolving doors.
I love it when a well reasoned post floats to the top.
Keeping my options open because it really doesnt matter how I judge them at this point in time. Ill debate their actions and speculate on effects but I wont judge them just yet. The time for that comes later once the fog of war clears.
I find it morbidly fascinating how so much effort is invested in labelling certain actors as POS or as DS scum or as Beacons of Hope, etc. Seeing so much effort, I cannot help but suspect where that drive is coming from. The recent kerfuffle raised by Trump's retruthing of Halper's interview and the subsequent broohaha that pedes post about this confirming x, y, z and a, is a like case in point.
I dunno. It feels like the approaches that a lot of folks use to 'finding truth' (is that what it is?) aren't all that helpful. And the attachment to those approaches and ... patterns... seems unproductive to me. One of those is settling on an opinion about figure [x] and then proclaiming that as the truth about it. In other words, for some reason, a lot of people still actively attach themselves to their views as if they know the truth about matter [y] or person [x] and then interact based on that attachment, rather than allowing themselves to question, reflect and actually feel comfortable with not knowing.
Because as you saliently point out here, we do not know. We don't. And anyone who is willing to invest an opinion, a working hypothesis, or a theory with the impetus and power of fact, and allow themselves to act out emotionally through attachment 'as if fact' isn't practicing the Q-tonic method.
The really important questions here are: why do I allow myself to think I know something that I don't know? Why do I feel so uncomfortable with not knowing? Am I running on old mental and emotional programs (well, its almost guaranteed that we all are) that take the place of self-awareness and application of the methods that Q exhorted so many millions around the world to?
If there is a Great Awakening out there, it cannot evolve or develop unless those engaged with it are willing to match and pursue it with an internal Great Awakening where we ask ourselves such questions.
The wonderful new world of liberation that the Q operation purports to direct us towards, won't mean a crock unless we ourselves are renewed and experience internal liberation from the old programming that we have adopted and used most of our lives.
Attachment to my opinion AS IF IT IS gospel truth is a clear hallmark of the old sort of programming that the Cabal has exploited to perfection. Such an attachment is not faith. The sorting process of revealing the evil in the world and separating dark from light, this also has to take place within our own processes.
Whether I support, think well of, despise or loathe Mike Pence is immaterial as to whether I will support DJT and advocate for what he advocates. And, it's not my job. Trump KNOWS the truth about Mike Pence. But we do not. Therefore, our role and actions and behavior should necessarily be different to Trumps. Because we do not know what Trump knows, or know WHY he is doing what he is doing in MANY cases. We can speculate, but it doesn't really need to affect our dedication to the cause and the purpose at hand.
Trying to convince people of our opinion as opposed to sharing tangible information, these are two different things.
I am a 70-year-old German and only started to look closely at American domestic politics in the middle of 2016.
If you look at JFK and Ronald Reagan, you notice that they had watchdogs at their side, watchdogs each with their own power base. Now, assuming that DJT was deliberately chosen against the party establishment, the Uniparty, the Deep State, what is the likelihood that Pence could be a watchdog?
I cannot judge Bill Barr from his background, but would the Deep State really have been so strong at the time of his appointment that it could have managed to fill such an important position?
The third person that intrigues me is DeSantis. Why would a successful political figure, so close to the crucial battle, betray his "maker"? After all, in my estimation, he made sure in Florida that the state could not swing back. It seems entirely plausible to me that he is trying to lure the RINOs and Uniparty financiers out for good.
My bets on who plays a role as WH are as follows
Pence 80:20
Barr 60:40
DeSantis 70:30
I have ALWAYS speculated that the big list of "Trust so and so..." was an intentional misinformation move by Q, some sort of bait. It doesn't mesh well with "POTUS will never broadcast his moves ahead of time"... but what, he'll broadcast his secret A-Team? It seemed way too obvious and amateurish, out of character for any psyop operation, which makes me think it had ulterior motives than the first glance analysis suggested.
That being said, "Trust Sessions" was different. That one was repeated early on and often, and I still have yet to see massive pile of dirt on Sessions, like I have most of the characters on the "Trust" list.
Heck, our biggest gripe with Sessions is that "he did nothing," but Q showered this guy with thanks and blessings and told us when the world discovered what he had done we would all be grateful. And yet, to this day, Sessions is best known for doing absolutely jack squat when we needed a bulldog AG.
Exactly....since 2020 i have thought it meant trust them to act the way we know they will act. Evil. Q team was listening to their plans so it was a nice headfake to make those bad actors feel comfy.
A funny point about commenter raising Sessions. AFAIK, Sessions was always the one member of the united States congress who did NOT have scum clinging to his hind legs. Hard to see him paying for 'past misdeeds'.
Agreed 100% - I wasn't actually condemning him, just lumping him in with the rest of the Trump cabinet that was given the "Faux News" treatment and eviscerated for "doing nothing".
Of everyone in that list I'm the most confident with Sessions. As well as Flynn. Who also took some heat.
Ultimately from folks who simply don't know what is actually happening, but pretend to know.
This does make sense. If they all worked in lockstep with Trump at the time against the fraud, among other things, all the brainwashed normies would cry coup and the still functioning MSM apparatus would likely have been able to whip them into a violent frenzy.
Devil's advocate - it's pretty obvious that this is incredibly well timed. As much as Barr // Pence appear to be pieces of shit, treasonous bastards, it really does seem like it may have HAD to happen this way. And Barr / Wray / Pence / Sessions / etc... all had roles to play, fucked up roles that made them seem like absolute barrel bottom scum sucking cunts... but roles nonetheless.
Perhaps their roles were the payment to avoid Gitmo for past misdeeds?
Or perhaps they are deep state snakes and Trump simply already knew they would have done this, and the Q posts announcing "Trust" was to bait them into confidently moving ahead with their black hat demands.
I have no idea. And I think that's the point. Because if WE don't know WTF the answer is, who's acting vs. who's actual useless scum, then the sheep and the MSM certainly don't know.
Gina Haspel ? Chris Christy ? Anthony Scaramuchi ? Mitch Mc Connell ? Ron De Santis ? - the list can go ooooooon and on. The "One Thing" that most Americans do not do - is do their "Due Diligence" and look into these people's past , and who has been in their inner circle in the past as well.
Yes. My big question is: where is Gina Haspel? She supposedly got shot in a firefight on election night in Germany. Soooo, what happened after that? I saw a press release but proof of life? Not yet. I think she has a lot to do with this whole situation, especially since she was very tight with John O. Brennan. That guy is a treasonous asshole. I’ll take it back if I find out otherwise. Spelling edit
Gina Haspel joined King and Spalding law firm.
Very prestigious, as I understand. Interesting the people who have worked there. Some, multple times over the years.
Gina Haspel:
Guess who went before her?
How 'bout this one?
Or this one?
And there's this:
I'm sure there's more but, I stopped searching after that. I'm sure it goes on and on and on, (kind of like this reply 😄). Seems like anybody who's anybody has worked there.
These people just walk through a series of revolving doors.
You are NOT alone.
Downdoot? Shills be shillin!
u/#q1191
Great actors!
I am not completely sold on the idea that Pence and Barr are bad guys. Jon Herold talks about this all the time.
I love it when a well reasoned post floats to the top.
Keeping my options open because it really doesnt matter how I judge them at this point in time. Ill debate their actions and speculate on effects but I wont judge them just yet. The time for that comes later once the fog of war clears.
"INDEED" !
I began a post on this topic yesterday.
I find it morbidly fascinating how so much effort is invested in labelling certain actors as POS or as DS scum or as Beacons of Hope, etc. Seeing so much effort, I cannot help but suspect where that drive is coming from. The recent kerfuffle raised by Trump's retruthing of Halper's interview and the subsequent broohaha that pedes post about this confirming x, y, z and a, is a like case in point.
I dunno. It feels like the approaches that a lot of folks use to 'finding truth' (is that what it is?) aren't all that helpful. And the attachment to those approaches and ... patterns... seems unproductive to me. One of those is settling on an opinion about figure [x] and then proclaiming that as the truth about it. In other words, for some reason, a lot of people still actively attach themselves to their views as if they know the truth about matter [y] or person [x] and then interact based on that attachment, rather than allowing themselves to question, reflect and actually feel comfortable with not knowing.
Because as you saliently point out here, we do not know. We don't. And anyone who is willing to invest an opinion, a working hypothesis, or a theory with the impetus and power of fact, and allow themselves to act out emotionally through attachment 'as if fact' isn't practicing the Q-tonic method.
The really important questions here are: why do I allow myself to think I know something that I don't know? Why do I feel so uncomfortable with not knowing? Am I running on old mental and emotional programs (well, its almost guaranteed that we all are) that take the place of self-awareness and application of the methods that Q exhorted so many millions around the world to?
If there is a Great Awakening out there, it cannot evolve or develop unless those engaged with it are willing to match and pursue it with an internal Great Awakening where we ask ourselves such questions.
The wonderful new world of liberation that the Q operation purports to direct us towards, won't mean a crock unless we ourselves are renewed and experience internal liberation from the old programming that we have adopted and used most of our lives.
Attachment to my opinion AS IF IT IS gospel truth is a clear hallmark of the old sort of programming that the Cabal has exploited to perfection. Such an attachment is not faith. The sorting process of revealing the evil in the world and separating dark from light, this also has to take place within our own processes.
Whether I support, think well of, despise or loathe Mike Pence is immaterial as to whether I will support DJT and advocate for what he advocates. And, it's not my job. Trump KNOWS the truth about Mike Pence. But we do not. Therefore, our role and actions and behavior should necessarily be different to Trumps. Because we do not know what Trump knows, or know WHY he is doing what he is doing in MANY cases. We can speculate, but it doesn't really need to affect our dedication to the cause and the purpose at hand.
Trying to convince people of our opinion as opposed to sharing tangible information, these are two different things.
I couldn't have possibly said it any better!
Comfortable with not knowing indeed.
Otherwise? We're no better than the CNN junkies.
I am a 70-year-old German and only started to look closely at American domestic politics in the middle of 2016.
If you look at JFK and Ronald Reagan, you notice that they had watchdogs at their side, watchdogs each with their own power base. Now, assuming that DJT was deliberately chosen against the party establishment, the Uniparty, the Deep State, what is the likelihood that Pence could be a watchdog?
I cannot judge Bill Barr from his background, but would the Deep State really have been so strong at the time of his appointment that it could have managed to fill such an important position?
The third person that intrigues me is DeSantis. Why would a successful political figure, so close to the crucial battle, betray his "maker"? After all, in my estimation, he made sure in Florida that the state could not swing back. It seems entirely plausible to me that he is trying to lure the RINOs and Uniparty financiers out for good.
My bets on who plays a role as WH are as follows Pence 80:20 Barr 60:40 DeSantis 70:30
I have ALWAYS speculated that the big list of "Trust so and so..." was an intentional misinformation move by Q, some sort of bait. It doesn't mesh well with "POTUS will never broadcast his moves ahead of time"... but what, he'll broadcast his secret A-Team? It seemed way too obvious and amateurish, out of character for any psyop operation, which makes me think it had ulterior motives than the first glance analysis suggested.
That being said, "Trust Sessions" was different. That one was repeated early on and often, and I still have yet to see massive pile of dirt on Sessions, like I have most of the characters on the "Trust" list.
Heck, our biggest gripe with Sessions is that "he did nothing," but Q showered this guy with thanks and blessings and told us when the world discovered what he had done we would all be grateful. And yet, to this day, Sessions is best known for doing absolutely jack squat when we needed a bulldog AG.
Questions upon questions.
It certainly takes compartmentalization to a whole new universe. That's for damn sure.
Exactly....since 2020 i have thought it meant trust them to act the way we know they will act. Evil. Q team was listening to their plans so it was a nice headfake to make those bad actors feel comfy.
Q2452 Thank you for your service to our Country, Mr. Jeff Sessions!
Your sacrifices will never be forgotten.
Q+
Not sure condemnation of Sessions is warranted.
A funny point about commenter raising Sessions. AFAIK, Sessions was always the one member of the united States congress who did NOT have scum clinging to his hind legs. Hard to see him paying for 'past misdeeds'.
Agreed 100% - I wasn't actually condemning him, just lumping him in with the rest of the Trump cabinet that was given the "Faux News" treatment and eviscerated for "doing nothing".
Of everyone in that list I'm the most confident with Sessions. As well as Flynn. Who also took some heat.
Ultimately from folks who simply don't know what is actually happening, but pretend to know.
This does make sense. If they all worked in lockstep with Trump at the time against the fraud, among other things, all the brainwashed normies would cry coup and the still functioning MSM apparatus would likely have been able to whip them into a violent frenzy.