So every single "survey and poll" with the sole exception of a rather confusing voluntary poll in the 50s, has been done by NGO. Yup, you heard that right. Every single bit of "evidence" that the American religious population is decreasing is being put forward by the obviously biased pollsters and "researchers" that claim that Trump is unpopular, clinton was gonna win, biden won, etc. etc.
So obviously they're full of crap.
Furthermore, in my research I found out what the "magic number" was in all of these polls and surveys since 1930.
35,000.
Yup, most of these "experts" deem 35,000 to be a suitable "magic" number that allows them to decide what the truth is about American religious demographics.
For context, in 1930 the US population was roughly 123 Million, which means they deemed 0.0285% of the population was a large enough sample size. Less than .03% of the population. Granted back then it said the US was roughly 91% Christian, so I'm willing to believe it back then, but the methodology was still wrong.
The fact that the exact same methodology and sample sizes are used today is where the bigger problem comes in. The USA now has roughly 340 Million people. So 35,000 is roughly 0.0103% of the total population. Literally a hair above a thousandth of a percent of the population.
Such low sample sizes might work in extremely homogenous nations like Japan, South Korea, etc. But in the literally most diverse nation on the planet? Yeah, that doesn't cut it.
And I'm not even getting into the fact that this ALSO still doesn't account for the fact that illegals, non citizens, temporary student/work VISA holders, etc. are often included in these surveys and polls. NOR does it account for the shady methodologies that these polling companies use to manipulate the results to get their desired results. Such as:
Independent polling results on religion are generally questionable due to numerous factors:[57]
polls consistently fail to predict political election outcomes, signifying consistent failure to capture the actual views of the population very low response rates for all polls since the 1990s biases in wording or topic affect how people respond to polls polls categorize people based on limited choices polls often generalize broadly polls have shallow or superficial choices, which complicate capturing complexity of religious beliefs and practices poll interviewer and respondent fatigue is very common
Credit where credit's due, that last bit came straight from the wikipedia article on religion in the USA under the section where they talk about inaccuracies of independent polling.
And it ALSO doesn't account for the fact that the "fastest growing demographic" the "nones", is mostly just Christians who no longer attend a physical Church or adhere to a specific denomination. Ergo, the majority of that group should be included in Christian statistics.
Long story short, if you account for all of these factors, the USA should roughly be 88%-ish Christian once you get rid of the illegals, etc., get rid of their manipulative methodologies, and redo the math given the public census numbers.
So given a standard margin of error of 4% in either direction, you come to the conclusion that without all the deep state cuckery, the USA is roughly 84-92% Christian of some sort.
Now I know what some are gonna say. "There's no way that's true, the number is too high.". That includes EVERYONE. Not everyone who's a Christian is a devout Christian, not everyone is practicing, not everyone attends Church, not everyone is a strict adherent, etc. etc. Some Christians curse, drink, etc. etc. even though they know it's a sin, because of their geographic culture.
Think about how it's pretty common to curse in friendly conversation in the heavily religious south for example. That 84-92% figure is more accurately used to point out the percentage of people in the USA who have Christian beliefs, believe in God, accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, etc. etc. even if they're imperfect in their actions.
And I'm not making excuses for anyone, everyone sins in some way, but I'm just pointing out that having such a high number doesn't mean that 92% of the population is supposedly living the Andy Griffith Church on sunday, never utter a "bad word" lifestyle.
Anyway, bit of a rant, but just something I stumbled on. If I'm right, which I'm fairly certain in this case I am given how much the cabal attack and demonize Christians and Christianity, then the religious demographics of the USA as a whole have remained roughly the same since 1930. Sure some areas cough Michigan and Minnesota cough, have seen a surge in muslims because of illegal immigration and "refugees". But other areas, like the south, have seen an infinitely larger increase in general population, the overwhelming majority of which are Christian in basic nature.
Like I said, bit of a rant, but just something I stumbled upon and figured I'd share after my little autistic rabbit hole adventure.
There's the article that started it all for me if you wanna do your own research on the topic. Feel free to discuss below.
Assuming that OP’s stats are accurate, the statistics gathered about Christians and churchgoers show a lot of problems in the area of regular Bible engagement and understanding of essential doctrine. If statistics tell us that half or more of them are morally no different from self-proclaimed non-Christians, then having over 90% self-identifying as Christians doesn’t mean much.
Agree 100%
If all the fake Christians and their BS modern ‘love everybody’ religion would actually read The Holy Bible and follow it… they’d stand up to this tyranny!!!
Well to the contrary, from what I've seen most actual research into the matter points to the fact that the whole "none" demographic was simply made up as a way to manipulate statistics. the most recent number I saw in research was that 72% of "nones" had religious beliefs and practices, such as praying, reading the Bible, believed in God, etc. etc. They just simply didn't attend Church or consider themselves part of a specific denomination.
The remaining 28% more or less fall into what you're saying. People who are "Christian", who basically just believe that God exists, but have never read a single Bible Verse and know literally nothing about God, Jesus, the Bible, etc.
As I said, the 84-92% figure covers everything from people with basic Christian beliefs, to the most devout believer. Realistically, even at the "official peak" of 90%, not every single person was a devout believer. You had people who worked 12+ hours a day in the fields or factories, and literally did not have time for Church, reading the Bible, etc.
They may have only had "basic" Christian beliefs, but the only thing that really matters is if Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior.
Either way, it's a bit unreasonable to assume everyone under the Christian demographic category is super devout. People's lifestyle, culture, etc. are all factors in such things.
Here's an example. My super uptight great aunt (woman is literally 90), would get angry at anyone for not going to Church, uttering the slightest curse word, etc etc. Real Church Lady type. She's the type of person most of these polls and surveys would categorize as "extremely devout".
On the other hand, I haven't been to an actual physical Church since the plandemic, when I lost respect for my former pastor and most of the people I went to Church with when they closed things down and started promoting the jab when it came out. I would technically fall under the "none" category if I were to categorized by most of these survey groups. (not that I've ever been asked).
Having said that, I've never felt closer to God than I have in the past few years. Doing a personal Bible Study where I just read the Bible daily in a time I set aside for that sole purpose, and watching based online messages from based preachers is my new thing.
Am I suddenly now "irreligious" as the None category would indicate? No, Because Jesus is still just as much my Lord and Savior as my Aunt's.
Another factor to consider, is the metric of viewership for online Church services. Did you know that even before the plandemic, Online Church Viewership for the past 13 years has been exploding? If I remember correctly it was something like the viewership rate was doubling every other year.
This is one of those metrics that pollsters "conveniently" overlook. If older people who are uptight about physical Church attendance are still going to physical Churches, where are all of these new viewers coming from if Christianity is on the decline? It's also convenient that they neglect that most of the viewership for online Church messages comes from younger people, the exact demographics that are often called the least religious.
And that's just one more example of how they manipulate the statistics to achieve their predetermined result.
Again, not saying everyone is a devout "church lady" type of Christian. But, I firmly believe that the majority of people at least have "basic" Christian beliefs and morals.
I don't usually answer polls. It's not their business, they aren't paying me and they're encroaching on me by even asking.
I don't trust Any poll out there. They're about as much use as a clickbait quiz. For entertainment purposes only.
They’re hiding 2 facts:
Current % of Christians.
Speed of increase in Muslim population they’re importing.
Most polls etc are bullshit because they'll just hit up some major city for their results. If you question this, they'll just keep doing the same shit but then they'll make up demographic statistics to "prove" they're polling from a broad spectrum when they aren't. Lying liars keep lying.
Of course it is forbidden, can you imagine people waking up to the fact that jews are only 2% of the population? Or that Islam is growing rapidly?
I've known people who never go to church but say they are Catholic. I've known people who claim to be agnostic but say they are Jewish. Lots of people are cherry pickers. I would surmise there are many who believe in Jesus but don't buy the Credo completely. So it would be a tough survey to take.
Maybe they're saying their ethnicity is Jewish but they're non-religious. It's both a race and a religion. You can be one of those but not the other. Or you can be both.
I'm not so sure. The vast majority of illegals here are Hispanics, who tend to be religious.
But they're also largely Catholic, and many Protestants don't believe Catholics count as Christians. So that might be problematic depending on who is determining who counts as Christians.
As much as I would like to agree with you, I'm highly skeptical about this theory. I'm in my mid-40s and was raised going to church all my life. I still go regularly, and every year there are fewer and fewer seats filled. It doesn't matter if I was living in very rural areas, suburbs, or cities. It's been a continuing trend. You can be Christian without going to church, but I don't think that accounts for the decrease in church attendance.
It's not only fewer people going to church but the overall decline in the general public of what people tend to consider Christian traits/behavior. Things like modesty, chastity, not using foul language, following the teachings of Jesus, etc...
As you've pointed out, many Christians don't, well, really act like Christians. It seems as if the only reason they're a Christian is because they grew up Christian, or have a "just in case" mentality. So what exactly is the point of getting excited that there might be more people like that than previously believed? How does it help us as a country or a society? Other than feeling safer by being a "majority"?
I would be very happy if I was proven wrong about this, though. I just don't really see it.