I don't get the point still. Sure we know little about him but he was literally the only non establishment person on the stage last night... I don't see how Soros benefits from having Vivek constantly shitting on his ideas publicly while calling out the establishment on their bad faith takes on trump. I feel like if he's doing anything he's setting up 2028 but fuck I would vote for him over the Ohio governor immediately.
Wait. Do we want "Republicans" or do we want one that unapologetically stands for our views? Not sure if you've looked around but 90% of the "Republicans" we put in office have fucked us.
I'm not a fan of Vivek. Thats not the point. Speaking out of both sides of our mouth is.
Look I'm not defending the guy or do I think he's got a chance against Trump. I'm just highlighting what may be a weakness in an argument.
Even your point above is a bit soft. Trump did provide his views for 35 years and they leaned left up until the past few years.
I voted for Trump and still support him completely but I wouldn't be winning anyone over with the "Trump spent 35 years talking about his views...." argument to bolster my reasoning.
I remember in the early 1980’s I guess, I’d hear bits and pieces on TV about some rich real estate guy with gold toilets, etc. I didn’t care much because I figured he was just a really wealthy braggart.
Mid-late 1980’s I started to watch interviews with Trump. I recall changing my opinion of him, in that it seemed he wanted all Americans to have a higher level of prosperity, not just himself. I’d seen the beautiful cities in other countries in photos and TV, so I knew there were nice places. And since the USA was the greatest country of all, it seemed odd that we didn’t have safe clean cities, etc. He’d say that our tax money was going everywhere but here. I didn’t consider that in any sort of R/D light, but I was of the thought that it didn’t matter because all politicians were snakes.
I think it’s hard for younger people to see old footage and relate that to Trump in the present, as their opinions were formed somewhere in between early days and 2016. It must seem like just sound bites, but it did truly make me consider him as more than a billionaire playboy at the time.
Uhh....wasn't Trump registered democrat at one point...
The point is..., he's [Vivek] never been republican - yet he's running on the GOP ticket.
I don't get the point still. Sure we know little about him but he was literally the only non establishment person on the stage last night... I don't see how Soros benefits from having Vivek constantly shitting on his ideas publicly while calling out the establishment on their bad faith takes on trump. I feel like if he's doing anything he's setting up 2028 but fuck I would vote for him over the Ohio governor immediately.
He is a sleeper plant to back up DeSantis failure. Of course he is going to bring all the right talking points. Don't they always.
Wait. Do we want "Republicans" or do we want one that unapologetically stands for our views? Not sure if you've looked around but 90% of the "Republicans" we put in office have fucked us.
I'm not a fan of Vivek. Thats not the point. Speaking out of both sides of our mouth is.
And Trump spent the previous 35 years talking about his views. We all knew what he stood for.
Vivek is 38 years old..
Look I'm not defending the guy or do I think he's got a chance against Trump. I'm just highlighting what may be a weakness in an argument.
Even your point above is a bit soft. Trump did provide his views for 35 years and they leaned left up until the past few years.
I voted for Trump and still support him completely but I wouldn't be winning anyone over with the "Trump spent 35 years talking about his views...." argument to bolster my reasoning.
Your points are valid.
I remember in the early 1980’s I guess, I’d hear bits and pieces on TV about some rich real estate guy with gold toilets, etc. I didn’t care much because I figured he was just a really wealthy braggart.
Mid-late 1980’s I started to watch interviews with Trump. I recall changing my opinion of him, in that it seemed he wanted all Americans to have a higher level of prosperity, not just himself. I’d seen the beautiful cities in other countries in photos and TV, so I knew there were nice places. And since the USA was the greatest country of all, it seemed odd that we didn’t have safe clean cities, etc. He’d say that our tax money was going everywhere but here. I didn’t consider that in any sort of R/D light, but I was of the thought that it didn’t matter because all politicians were snakes.
I think it’s hard for younger people to see old footage and relate that to Trump in the present, as their opinions were formed somewhere in between early days and 2016. It must seem like just sound bites, but it did truly make me consider him as more than a billionaire playboy at the time.
Uhh...not w/in 1 yr of running for POTUS.
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