https://sjmagis.com/2022/05/23/christs-date-of-birth/
https://www.newvision.co.ug/news/1090427/jesus-born-september
https://www.elizabethton.com/2018/09/10/excited-about-9-11-and-return-of-jesus/
At the beginning of December, families start preparing for Christmas, known as Jesus Christ’s birthday. When is Jesus’s birthday? Most people think it is December 25. However, this isn’t the correct date of Christ’s birth day.
During Jesus’s time the Julian calendar was invented by Julius Caesar in 45 BCE, but this calendar only has 29 days per month, and each century the gap between our calendar and Julian calendar increases from the four year jump. Not only that, but time back then wasn’t properly recorded and maintained.
Before diving deeper into this topic, I would like to say for the record that I firmly believe in Jesus Christ, our savior and messiah. I believe he rose from the dead and ascended to heaven, so when discussing the date of birth of Christ, I only wish to question whether or not the common date for His birth is accurate and not question Jesus or disprove him in any way.
By using historical records from the ancient Roman Empire, astronomic events, the Bible, and “The Star that Astonished the World” written by Ernest L. Martin, we can estimate the date of Jesus’ birth is September 11, 3 BC.
To start, Martin wrote the book to discover the identity of the Star of Bethlehem. He made the conclusion of the exact date of the birth of Christ just stated. Martin’s astronomical identification is supported by Roman and Jewish records that lead to Martin’s conclusion that this star is indeed the star that the Magi of the East saw. Who were the Magi of the East? They are the wise men. Magi back then were high-ranking officials, interpreting dreams for kings, interpreters of heavenly signs. These Magi were trained in an astronomical religion, similar to the one Daniel was head of (Book of Daniel 2:48). In a nutshell, these men knew what they were looking for. In the period of 3 – 2 BC, a rare event occurred involving the alignment of Jupiter called the Great Conjunction. The Magi observed a conjunction between Venus and Jupiter in August 12, 3 BC and another in June 17, 2 BC. In ancient cultures, this timeframe was considered a period of 2 years. This is why Herod the Great ordered to kill every son that was two years or younger (Matthew 2:16).
According to the Gospel of Luke, Jesus started his ministry around age 30. Meanwhile, Tiberius Caesar Augustus had been a Roman Emperor for 15 years. Caesar became an emperor on August 19, 14 AD and killed Jesus during his reign. Caesar chose the year August 14 AD – August 15 AD as a symbol of his power making every year during his reign to start in August and end in August. Subtracting from the point during Caesar’s 15th year of reign would be August 27 – August 28 AD. Subtracting from that, Jesus’ age, we would get 3 BC as Jesus’ birth year.
We figured out the year, but determining the month would require the 24 priestly courses. In I Chronicles 9:22, King David made a system where every week, the first family of priests began their service at noon on a Sabbath (Saturday) and finished on the following Sabbath noon. The 24 priestly courses required one family of priests, and 24 courses took six months to finish. The father of John the Baptist, Zacharias, serves the eighth course (I Chronicles 24:10). These 24 priestly courses began the first month of Nisan (March-April) in the Jewish calendar, and the first day in the 2022 solar calendar is April 2. The first course is April 2 – 8, second April 9 – 15 with the Passover after noon on April 15, followed by the annual holiday celebration from April 16 – 22. The third course begins, then forth, etc. Zacharias‘ eighth week took place May 28 – June 3; fortunately, Zacharias’ wife would conceive a baby after the eight priestly courses around the week of June 13th (Luke 1:13, 23-24). Since the message was delivered by an angel, the pregnancy would have taken 280 days, making John the Baptist’s birthday in the next March. In Luke 1:26, it indicated that Jesus’ birth would take place 6 months prior to John the Baptist’s birth, meaning Jesus was born in September.
By using the Bible, Magi, Martins’ book, and Historical records of Caesar, we are able to determine Jesus’ birthday with an encouraging level of accuracy. However, this topic is still open to investigation and debate.
Mmm this is not quite right if you go by historical events that are documented he was likely born in the spring around April. Doesn’t really matter though.
Agreed. In fact, his birth was probably on the new moon of Nisan - which is a significant point on the Hebrew calendar as it fixes not only the month, but starts the rest of the religious calendar cycle. Every major event in his life aligns on that calendar - his death, resurrection, the giving of the Holy Spirit and most likely his return. So, why would not his birth also line up with the same calendar. In addition, his birth was prior to the death of Herod the Great who, according to most scholarship, died in 4BCE. Therefore, the above posted dating is in error. That major fact was absent from the details listed. Another fact is that when the Magi came, they found "the child" in the "house." They came to see a child and not an infant in a manger. The Greek is specific in that this is speaking of a small child and not a baby. Guess people will have to rethink their manger scenes.
Pretty sure the Mormons believe Jesus was born in spring as well.
They also believe he walked with Native Americans in North America.
That... would be difficult considering there is some evidence that suggests that "Native" Americans weren't actually native at all, and may not have even been present during that time.
Also there is a lot of upset and downvotes and finger pointing in this thread, chill out frens
they do state that and is part of the basis of the book of mormon. Personally I do not believe any of that having been raised LDS and at age 34 I became a born again Christian and officially resigned from the LDS organization.
https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/why-did-jesus-say-that-there-were-other-sheep-who-would-hear-his-voice
The “White God” described by several tribes. I’m Mornon.
Have a look on Stellarium if you doubt, look at Bethlehem on this date to see the stars in the sky.
funny how this crap sits at the top... Some unsauced comment with a dismissive conclusion gets 4 quick upvotes. what a joke
It absolutely does matter. The satanic cabal deliberately chose that date for the ritual sacrifice of 9/11 that has completely changed the world we live in in just two decades. They kept secret the birth of Christ and mocked it as a pagan date of December 25th
https://goodnessofgodministries.international/2011/12/22/when-was-jesus-christ-born-the-bible-says-september-11-3bc-the-day-of-the-feast-of-trumpets/
Feast of TRUMPets >> IT WILL BE BIBLICAL
If you're fine with coming across as an arrogant ass, that's your business. But if you're going to do so with such bravado, you need to make sure you've got ALL your details straight.
As for unsauced populism, there is no historical evidence to suggest that Dec 25th is a pagan holiday. There are holidays that exist around it in that month, but not on that date.
There IS, however, historical evidence suggesting that early Christians celebrated something in remembrance of Christ on Dec 25th as early as the first century. It is described as a festival of lights, special foods, and gift-giving. My own theory is that this was probably a modified version of what we know as Hanukkah, but that's just me, and I'm quick to say that. As for sauce, I'm not invested enough to go through the effort of digging that up ATM.
WRONG!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN0pd_8yTLU
lol I'm fine with stomping on clearly brigaded comments that are unsourced and directly attack the premise I put forward
You're coming across as the arrogant ass, not me, with a throw away comment that is unsourced and anecdotal
And keep bringing the downvotes... Always a big indicator of being RIGHT OVER THE TARGET
You've got to be kidding.
You start with this:
And then provide a link that argues that Christ is one of many "Sun Gods" and the apostles are constellations and the bible is all about astrology.
You need to relax, bro. Take some GABA. It's good for sleep.
Yes! God commanded the Jews to keep the feast days (Feast of Trumpets and Feast of Tabernacles) so they would recognize the coming of the promised Messiah when this event occurred on the feast day. Also, they should have understood that Jesus, the Lamb of God, was the sacrificial lamb when He was sacrificed during Passover--the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Kinda glad they didn't since it opened the way for us Gentiles to be saved! Jus sayin but for sure God knew what they would do well before the foundation of the world.
I agree! I think my point was more that God set up the feast days also to serve as signposts or clues when He had certain events occur on those days rather than random dates not connected to anything in His written Word. He also uses eclipses, blood moons falling on feast days.