From the chans via X. Dont know if it is true..but SOMETHING happened.
(media.greatawakening.win)
✈️ Planefags ✈️
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (194)
sorted by:
And it is bunk. I happen to be quite familiar with the dimensions of the AGM-86 cruise missile (having walked many times past inert bodies in a transportation corridor in a building on plant) and if it had been one, it wouldn't have been visible in that video. The fuselage is only 2 feet in diameter. That was a cherry-picked poor video with no resolution. There is a better one that shows the 757 fuselage in profile with the distinctive American Airlines livery. Nor do such missiles follow a trajectory so close to the ground. And if such a missile had clipped a streetlight (witnessed, verified), it would have ripped off the wing and the missile would have gone out of control.
All this shows me is that you are very easily gulled by people who are not qualified to make such identifications, nor are you expert enough to know what you are seeing. You are convinced only because it panders to your desire for bias confirmation. I haven't been fooled for many years. You have been fooled for maybe 20 years.
As much as I loathe speaking with narcississtic people bathing in Dunning-Kruger syndrome, I'm going to throw your own question back at you for shits and giggles:
Sauce?
At least I don't insult people. I have no idea what Dunning-Kruger has to do with me, nor do I think you know.
Here is a link to the Pentagon security camera 2 footage, which goes really fast. The airplane forward fuselage is visible at 0:24 seconds. The fireball is visible at 0.25 seconds. I recall viewing a version posted on this site that had slightly better time division (maybe every half second) and allowed a brief glimpse of the entire fuselage, enough to see the American Airlines livery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77#Security_camera_videos
Here is also an article that debunks the claim that no wreckage was reported. The reporter who supposedly made the report is the debunker. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-911-pentagon-attack-footage-415983695442
I notice you have no refutation of my statements about cruise missiles.
That vid shows worse blur as the one I gave, only mine had better Frame rate that you could actually gauge size. They're both shit, but one gives more clues.
I didn't refute ( missle) due to its asinine assumptions, hence the dunning-kruger. I don't bother with bullshit, as I have witnessed first-hand a cruise missile both hitting target, and aftermath. Spent most of my 24 years military in the sandbox and know, from experience, what they do. I also wore the hat of Aircraft Mishap Investigator during my time in and nothing about the Pentagon hit adds up.
I noticed you had nothing to say about the Pennsylvania "crash site", either...which also doesn't add up.
Your video showed a vehicle much too long to be a cruise missile, and too big in diameter, where a cruise missile would be imperceptible at distance.
Air to surface cruise missiles always dive on their target, in order to reduce the miss distance due to altitude error. They do not fly nap of the Earth, because they cannot respond to obstacles, such as lamp standards. And if they clipped a lamp standard, to the point of breaking it off (which happened), the wing would also have broken off, causing a missile to fly out of control.
There is ample evidence for the airplane hit and continuous air traffic radar tracking from take-off to crash. I don't know why you say the event doesn't "add up." All the claims for a cruise missile are unsubstantiated.
As for Pennsylvania, I don't make a profession of all this. Why don't you take it up with the families of those who died? I recall reading of tests conducted with rocket sleds throwing fuselages at high speed into reinforced concrete walls (e.g., solid ground) and the fuselages were practically atomized by the energy of the crash. It seems like everyone has a cartoon conception of how airplanes crash. Reality is often different. I have seen photos of crash scenes where the fuselage is practically gone from melting.