And does this mean he is really dead and not going to pop up at some time to become Trump's VP? Because that is still being said by some people. Which I've never understood, because JFK, Jr. was a lifelong liberal and Democrat.
PS- I wanted to add that he had not even officially entered the race. There was a lot of speculation about him running for Senate and his name was mentioned all the time when political pundits talked about the vacancy, but he never formally announced he was running.
He was known as a hot guy who liked to roller skate shirtless in Central Park.....which the tabloids loved....the guy who almost lost a job with the District Attorney because he couldn't pass the bar exam and then a guy who had an unsuccessful magazine.
This stuff about him actually running for office was only talked years later.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
I still don't understand why anyone would think he would be a good VP for President Trump. I know there was that whole weird thing going around about him not really being dead and was going to come back and Trump was going to make him his VP.
Why would anyone want him as a VP? He was a liberal. I just don't get it.
It came from Liz Crokin. She did a video where basically she got horny for JFK Jr.. ..(I guess I might do the same if I was a woman, he's a good looking dude.) and it took off from there.
You're right that it didn't come from Q, but I know there were a lot of Anons who believed it and went a little overboard about it. And there are still a few people here who seem to still think it's true.
I also remember when it happened. There was a lot of gossip about Carolyn not wanting him to go into the Senate right then. They had just gotten married and she was having a lot of trouble adjusting to being in the spotlight and their relationship was being strained because of that. She didn't want to become even more of a public figure, which is what would happen if Jr. had become a Senator.
But that's just my memory, sooo...
I think there might be a paywall to the article, so here it is:
"John F. Kennedy Jr. was sought out as a possible candidate for a Senate seat from New York but declined to run even before Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed interest in the race, according to a Senator who spoke with him.
Senator Robert G. Torricelli, the New Jersey Democrat who is chairman of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, said he called Mr. Kennedy after Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced last November that he would not seek re-election in 2000.
Senator Torricelli said Mr. Kennedy told him he might be interested later but the timing was not right and he would not seek the seat. This was more than a month before Mrs. Clinton's name emerged as a possibility.
''The speculation that John Kennedy was not a candidate for the U.S. Senate because of Hillary Clinton is not accurate,'' Senator Torricelli said in an interview today.
''John Kennedy was an obvious possible choice,'' said Senator Torricelli, who helps to recruit Senate candidates and raise money for them and who was among the first to mention Mrs. Clinton's name publicly in February. He said he also spoke with Mr. Kennedy's cousin, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer in New York, as well as with Andrew M. Cuomo, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and the son of former Gov. Mario M. Cuomo, and with H. Carl McCall, the State Comptroller, but they were cool to the idea.
Of John Kennedy, Mr. Torricelli said: ''He listened carefully, he was attentive to the suggestions, he approached it thoughtfully and seriously. But his response was, it might be an interest he had in his life but the timing wasn't right, that it was something to be approached again in a matter of years.''
Senator Torricelli said he called Mr. Kennedy twice about the matter, but then dropped it because he was clearly not interested. But the Senator also said that Mr. Kennedy appeared to be using his magazine, George, as a vehicle to become more familiar with public policy issues and that this was perhaps a way to lay the groundwork for a future run for office."
OK, while I'm fascinated with the fact that he hadn't thrown his hat in the ring, I realize this is the NYT. I'm off to search for a second source on this.
It might be a better use of your time looking for evidence he ever entered the race in the first place.
You could start with the DNC records concerning that election. It's an official process to enter as a candidate in a political party. And they keep records of that.
Well, perhaps I could find some random person on Twitter who just says it and post that for you.
That seems to work well enough as evidence here.
Do you think the Kennedy family, one of the most prestigious and powerful families in the US wouldn't have made it known that this NYT article was lying about JFK Jr not running for Senate if he had been?
If you're looking for more evidence, I'd just suggest that it's easier to prove a positive than it is to prove a negative. By this, I mean that it would be easier to find evidence that he was running for Senate before he died, if that was true.
To run for Senate as a Democrat, he would have to jump through all kinds of hoops with the DNC. They keep records of that sort of thing. So you can look there.
Or even do a web search for any news of him announcing he was going to run. That would 100% have made the news at the time, if it had happened.
Yes, I corrected myself on that. If you read the entire conversation, you will see why.
Just to save you the time and trouble of finding the post I'm talking about, here is where I corrected myself.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
He hired an exploratory committee on running for New York governor. It was no secret he would have been the frontrunner by a mile. Polls are often done long before a candidate throws official hat in ring.
JFK Jr. dropped out of the race before he died.
And does this mean he is really dead and not going to pop up at some time to become Trump's VP? Because that is still being said by some people. Which I've never understood, because JFK, Jr. was a lifelong liberal and Democrat.
PS- I wanted to add that he had not even officially entered the race. There was a lot of speculation about him running for Senate and his name was mentioned all the time when political pundits talked about the vacancy, but he never formally announced he was running.
It's not even that he dropped out.
He was never in the race. He just wasn't viable candidate at that point in his life.
https://www.deseret.com/1990/5/1/18859239/john-kennedy-jr-fails-bar-exam-2nd-time-says-he-ll-take-it-again
He was known as a hot guy who liked to roller skate shirtless in Central Park.....which the tabloids loved....the guy who almost lost a job with the District Attorney because he couldn't pass the bar exam and then a guy who had an unsuccessful magazine.
This stuff about him actually running for office was only talked years later.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
I still don't understand why anyone would think he would be a good VP for President Trump. I know there was that whole weird thing going around about him not really being dead and was going to come back and Trump was going to make him his VP.
Why would anyone want him as a VP? He was a liberal. I just don't get it.
The JFK Jr thing did not come from Q.
It came from Liz Crokin. She did a video where basically she got horny for JFK Jr.. ..(I guess I might do the same if I was a woman, he's a good looking dude.) and it took off from there.
You're right that it didn't come from Q, but I know there were a lot of Anons who believed it and went a little overboard about it. And there are still a few people here who seem to still think it's true.
Sauce on him dropping out? I have never heard that. Thx
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/20/us/kennedy-s-plane-lost-politics-kennedy-rebuffed-overture-senate-race-torricelli.html
I also remember when it happened. There was a lot of gossip about Carolyn not wanting him to go into the Senate right then. They had just gotten married and she was having a lot of trouble adjusting to being in the spotlight and their relationship was being strained because of that. She didn't want to become even more of a public figure, which is what would happen if Jr. had become a Senator.
But that's just my memory, sooo...
I think there might be a paywall to the article, so here it is:
"John F. Kennedy Jr. was sought out as a possible candidate for a Senate seat from New York but declined to run even before Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed interest in the race, according to a Senator who spoke with him.
Senator Robert G. Torricelli, the New Jersey Democrat who is chairman of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, said he called Mr. Kennedy after Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced last November that he would not seek re-election in 2000.
Senator Torricelli said Mr. Kennedy told him he might be interested later but the timing was not right and he would not seek the seat. This was more than a month before Mrs. Clinton's name emerged as a possibility.
''The speculation that John Kennedy was not a candidate for the U.S. Senate because of Hillary Clinton is not accurate,'' Senator Torricelli said in an interview today.
''John Kennedy was an obvious possible choice,'' said Senator Torricelli, who helps to recruit Senate candidates and raise money for them and who was among the first to mention Mrs. Clinton's name publicly in February. He said he also spoke with Mr. Kennedy's cousin, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer in New York, as well as with Andrew M. Cuomo, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and the son of former Gov. Mario M. Cuomo, and with H. Carl McCall, the State Comptroller, but they were cool to the idea.
Of John Kennedy, Mr. Torricelli said: ''He listened carefully, he was attentive to the suggestions, he approached it thoughtfully and seriously. But his response was, it might be an interest he had in his life but the timing wasn't right, that it was something to be approached again in a matter of years.''
Senator Torricelli said he called Mr. Kennedy twice about the matter, but then dropped it because he was clearly not interested. But the Senator also said that Mr. Kennedy appeared to be using his magazine, George, as a vehicle to become more familiar with public policy issues and that this was perhaps a way to lay the groundwork for a future run for office."
OK, while I'm fascinated with the fact that he hadn't thrown his hat in the ring, I realize this is the NYT. I'm off to search for a second source on this.
It might be a better use of your time looking for evidence he ever entered the race in the first place.
You could start with the DNC records concerning that election. It's an official process to enter as a candidate in a political party. And they keep records of that.
Well, perhaps I could find some random person on Twitter who just says it and post that for you.
That seems to work well enough as evidence here.
Do you think the Kennedy family, one of the most prestigious and powerful families in the US wouldn't have made it known that this NYT article was lying about JFK Jr not running for Senate if he had been?
Thx. A bit shocking as it is a common thing discussed. I will look for more on this. Thx again.
You're welcome.
If you're looking for more evidence, I'd just suggest that it's easier to prove a positive than it is to prove a negative. By this, I mean that it would be easier to find evidence that he was running for Senate before he died, if that was true.
To run for Senate as a Democrat, he would have to jump through all kinds of hoops with the DNC. They keep records of that sort of thing. So you can look there.
Or even do a web search for any news of him announcing he was going to run. That would 100% have made the news at the time, if it had happened.
You said he dropped out before he died then you said he never entered the race.
Yes, I corrected myself on that. If you read the entire conversation, you will see why.
Just to save you the time and trouble of finding the post I'm talking about, here is where I corrected myself.
He hired an exploratory committee on running for New York governor. It was no secret he would have been the frontrunner by a mile. Polls are often done long before a candidate throws official hat in ring.
We're talking about the seat in the Senate. Not governor.
I'm not sure how accurate your opinion is that he would have easily won. That just doesn't jibe with the general attitude at the time.
Either way, he never officially entered the race for the Senate seat.