Interesting. lRS is offering the service in 13 states. There are 9 states with no state income tax and every single one of those 9 is on the list of 13 trial states (plus four other states that do have a state income tax).
I am pretty sure the reason the states without income taxes are participating is because the state government are trying to track their people better. Tax returns are a tracking tool and these states are trying to make it easy for the IRS to collect data that will be in turn shared with the states.
I say this because California is aggressively trying to get everyone to file a CA tax return, including people who don't make enough to be required to file a return, people who don't live in California, businesses that don't do business in California, etc. At first I was confused about why The State of California want tax returns so bad on people who they know don't owe them ant tax money. Eventually, I figured out it was for data tracking. I wrote an article about it: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=1867
Anyway, it is no surprise that California is part of the pilot. California has been pushing the IRS to make a tool like this so that it can be expanded to file California returns, too.
Maybe. But if the taxless state wants to track it's people better why not just start up an income tax? Also (might be wrong about this) I don't recall that article saying that the taxless states are "participating". The four states that do have their own tax are working with lRS (so it said in the article, I believe) but I don't think it said one way or the other if the 9 taxless states were working with the lRS.
Starting up an income tax is much easier said than done. Both the IRS and California made income taxes happen through via trickery and deceit; income taxes are actually not legal on the majority of personal types of income. The Federal Reserve and California created agencies to collect the types of income taxes that are legal and then greatly and unlawfully expanded what types of incomes they taxed from there by doing things like cherry picking words within statues out of context, claiming statues have extra words in them that aren't actually in the laws, flat out misinterpreting what the statutes say, etc.
The only thing I can think of is that those are the states that have no stake in the Federal lncome Tax. The 41 states that do have a state income tax are all piggy backing off the federal tax. Maybe the lRS knows it's going to lose some control coming up and is targeting the states that aren't incentivized to care about them.
Those are the states willing to play ball with the enforcement arm of the federal reserve apparently. Before reading that article I kind of had a feeling it would be all the cucked states and what do ya know.
yea, right? My first take too: it would be all the compromised states like CA, NY, IL, etc. But Tennessee, Texas, Florida on the list makes it a total hodgepodge
Is there any hope Congress will cut funding for the IRS? Or, maybe glass half full- this is a baby step in making the IRS irrelevant? Leading to a simplified system? A Pede-ette can dream!
It is no surprise that California is part of the pilot. California has been pushing the IRS to make a tool like this so that it can be expanded to file California returns, too.
California actually launched a similar tool for California returns, but it failed. At the quarterly board meetings, the California income tax agency said that the failure was because the target audience -- people who couldn't afford a tax preparer -- had to 1. do their IRS forms manually and then 2. manually type the info from the IRS form into the California form. Apparently, the target group were unable to do steps one and two.
The income tax agency analyst said that she believes that the CA tool would only work if the people could file the IRS return online and then import the data from the IRS form into the California form.
And, FYI, the reason that California is trying so hard to get people to file returns is because the returns are an important Deep State Cabal tracking tool. I wrote an article about it: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=1867
the returns are an important Deep State Cabal tracking tool.
Exactly what I was thinking, and now all this can be more easily stored by the g0v, even tho they have so much of our sensitive stuff already. Thanks for the detailed info and blog link!
Interesting. lRS is offering the service in 13 states. There are 9 states with no state income tax and every single one of those 9 is on the list of 13 trial states (plus four other states that do have a state income tax).
This is to make the software easier to develop. They don't have to be concerned with state income tax refunds, credits, etc.
The 4 states with state income tax on the list are coordinating directly with IRS.
I am pretty sure the reason the states without income taxes are participating is because the state government are trying to track their people better. Tax returns are a tracking tool and these states are trying to make it easy for the IRS to collect data that will be in turn shared with the states.
I say this because California is aggressively trying to get everyone to file a CA tax return, including people who don't make enough to be required to file a return, people who don't live in California, businesses that don't do business in California, etc. At first I was confused about why The State of California want tax returns so bad on people who they know don't owe them ant tax money. Eventually, I figured out it was for data tracking. I wrote an article about it: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=1867
Anyway, it is no surprise that California is part of the pilot. California has been pushing the IRS to make a tool like this so that it can be expanded to file California returns, too.
Maybe. But if the taxless state wants to track it's people better why not just start up an income tax? Also (might be wrong about this) I don't recall that article saying that the taxless states are "participating". The four states that do have their own tax are working with lRS (so it said in the article, I believe) but I don't think it said one way or the other if the 9 taxless states were working with the lRS.
Starting up an income tax is much easier said than done. Both the IRS and California made income taxes happen through via trickery and deceit; income taxes are actually not legal on the majority of personal types of income. The Federal Reserve and California created agencies to collect the types of income taxes that are legal and then greatly and unlawfully expanded what types of incomes they taxed from there by doing things like cherry picking words within statues out of context, claiming statues have extra words in them that aren't actually in the laws, flat out misinterpreting what the statutes say, etc.
Interesting and suspicious all at once. I didn't see mention of why those particular states were chosen
The only thing I can think of is that those are the states that have no stake in the Federal lncome Tax. The 41 states that do have a state income tax are all piggy backing off the federal tax. Maybe the lRS knows it's going to lose some control coming up and is targeting the states that aren't incentivized to care about them.
Those are the states willing to play ball with the enforcement arm of the federal reserve apparently. Before reading that article I kind of had a feeling it would be all the cucked states and what do ya know.
yea, right? My first take too: it would be all the compromised states like CA, NY, IL, etc. But Tennessee, Texas, Florida on the list makes it a total hodgepodge
Per article:
These are the states where eligible taxpayers could be able to use the pilot program in 2024:
Arizona
California
Massachusetts
New York
Alaska
Florida
New Hampshire
Nevada
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Washington
Wyoming
So free that you’ll want to pay your taxes....NOT!
Will it be as effective as the Obamacare exchanges? What a shit show that was! If you want to to fuck something up, let yhe gov take over...
Totally!. This "free offering" from the eye-RS has "I'm from the g0vment and I'm here to help" written all over it.
Is there any hope Congress will cut funding for the IRS? Or, maybe glass half full- this is a baby step in making the IRS irrelevant? Leading to a simplified system? A Pede-ette can dream!
ZERO hope.
I'm 100% for it and offer you a virtual 'cheers' as I drink some of that hopium.
It is no surprise that California is part of the pilot. California has been pushing the IRS to make a tool like this so that it can be expanded to file California returns, too.
California actually launched a similar tool for California returns, but it failed. At the quarterly board meetings, the California income tax agency said that the failure was because the target audience -- people who couldn't afford a tax preparer -- had to 1. do their IRS forms manually and then 2. manually type the info from the IRS form into the California form. Apparently, the target group were unable to do steps one and two.
The income tax agency analyst said that she believes that the CA tool would only work if the people could file the IRS return online and then import the data from the IRS form into the California form.
And, FYI, the reason that California is trying so hard to get people to file returns is because the returns are an important Deep State Cabal tracking tool. I wrote an article about it: https://gwsandiego.net/blog/?p=1867
Exactly what I was thinking, and now all this can be more easily stored by the g0v, even tho they have so much of our sensitive stuff already. Thanks for the detailed info and blog link!