The people Jesus was calling out was the Edomites. Herod the Great was an Edomite. Rome looked at them just like they were Jews since the descended from Esau, Jacob's brother. The hatred between them was from before they were born. After Babylon removed the Jews from the land, the Edomites moved in and took over. The KHAZARIAN may be the same people.
The Pharisees did not want to lose their power over the people. Jesus held the accountable for not knowing the day of His arrival but even at that, NOT all Jews are the Synagogue of Satan. The Edomites were the power in Judea at that time. They claimed to be Jews and no Priest could serve unless they bowed to them first and do their bidding. There are millions of Jews in Israel, some are in no doubt false Jews but of all the millions that came there since 1948 and do not worship satan!
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE TERMS FOR "JEW"
"Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew."
Herod the Great was an Edomite, and the Edomites are SOME of the ancestors to modern day Jews.
After Babylon removed the Jews from the land
The Babylonians removed the JUDAHITES (Israelites) from the Kingdom of Judah.
Later, when they returned, it was no longer that kingdom, and would eventually become the Roman province of Judea, and was indeed populated with Edomites, along with some original Judahites (Israelites -- not "jews"), and others.
Similar to how Texas today has illegal alien Mexicans, not only Texans and other Americans.
If you were a resident of the Roman province of Judea, you were a Judean in the same way that residents of Texas are Texans.
But that does not mean all Judeans were of the tribe of Israel.
Jews were the adversaries of the Israelites, not the Israelites themselves.
In Hebrew, "Satan" means adversary, not the little red guy with the horns and pitchfork.
I use the Bible to explain who the Jews and Israelites are. The tribe of Judah and Israel were call Israel during the time of Solomon and only split away from each other after his son started to rule. There were many of all the tribes that moved to Judah after the split. The ancient Israelites were referred to a Jews in several parts of the OT. I'll stick with what the Bible says over the Jewish Almanac.
I use the Bible to explain who the Jews and Israelites are.
But you seem to be saying that the Bible says the Jews and Israelites were the same people. Maybe you weren't saying that, but that is how it came across.
The "Jews" and the Israelites were two DIFFERENT, DISTINCT people.
The tribe of Judah and Israel were call Israel during the time of Solomon
True. Jacob/Israel had 12 sons, who were the patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel, who received the Covenant from God. This is why they were "God's Chosen People."
At first, they formed the Kingdom of Israel, then 2 of the 12 tribes split off.
and only split away from each other after his son started to rule. There were many of all the tribes that moved to Judah after the split.
No, when the Kingdom of Judah split from the Kingdom of Israel, there were only two tribes -- Judah and Benjamin -- who became the Kingdom of Judah. These were all Israelites, because they were genetic descents of Jacob/Israel. They just happened to be a sub-set of that family tree.
Starting in Genesis 4:25 and going through Genesis 5, we can trace a direct genetic family tree from Adam through Seth to Noah.
Noah was chosen by God to build the ark due to Noah being "perfect in his ancestry."
It is ALL ABOUT the family tree -- ONE particular branch of it.
Then, starting in Genesis 9:26 and going through Genesis 11, we can further trace this family tree from Noah, through Shem, directly to Abram/Abraham.
Abraham gets the Covenant, passing it to his son and grandson, Issac and Jacob/Israel.
Later, in Matthew 1, we can trace from Jacob/Israel, through Judah, directly to Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ, Himself.
So, God creates Adam, and one particular branch of his family tree is traced all through the Bible down through and back to God Himself, in the form of Jesus Christ.
The entire thing is a family tree -- direct genetic descendents.
This is why it is crucial to understand the distinction between the Kingdom of Israel, the Kingdom of Judah, the tribe of Judah, the Israelite people, and those people who later would live in the Roman province of Judea, called Judeans, but were not necessarily directly related to Judah, and therefore NOT Israelites.
The ancient Israelites were referred to a Jews in several parts of the OT. I'll stick with what the Bible says over the Jewish Almanac.
The Jewish Almanac is useful to show that the jews themselves admit they are NOT Israelites.
The Old Testament was the story of the Israelites (NOT "jews"), as well as other people (some of whom were "jews").
2Ch 11:16 And after them out of all the tribes of Israel such as set their hearts to seek the LORD God of Israel came to Jerusalem, to sacrifice unto the LORD God of their fathers.
Those that stayed faithful to God moved south to Judah. The Levites and others according to God.
2Ch 11:3 Speak unto Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, and to all Israel in Judah and Benjamin, saying,
Act 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Peter knew all Israel was represented there. Just because a nation is destroyed does not mean the people disappeared!
The people Jesus was calling out was the Edomites. Herod the Great was an Edomite. Rome looked at them just like they were Jews since the descended from Esau, Jacob's brother. The hatred between them was from before they were born. After Babylon removed the Jews from the land, the Edomites moved in and took over. The KHAZARIAN may be the same people.
In Matt. 23, Jesus was calling out the Pharisees for hypocrisy. They were Jews
The Pharisees did not want to lose their power over the people. Jesus held the accountable for not knowing the day of His arrival but even at that, NOT all Jews are the Synagogue of Satan. The Edomites were the power in Judea at that time. They claimed to be Jews and no Priest could serve unless they bowed to them first and do their bidding. There are millions of Jews in Israel, some are in no doubt false Jews but of all the millions that came there since 1948 and do not worship satan!
The Pharasees were a unique sub-group of what we would today call jews.
They were, indeed Judeans, in that they were resident of the Roman province of Judea.
But they were NOT of the tribe of Israel, and the decendants of Judah (Judahites).
They were claiming to be Judahites/Israelites, but were not.
In John 8, Jesus agreed that they were decended from Abraham, but NOT from Jacob. They were from Esau/Edom.
From the Jewish Almanac, 1980:
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Herod the Great was an Edomite, and the Edomites are SOME of the ancestors to modern day Jews.
The Babylonians removed the JUDAHITES (Israelites) from the Kingdom of Judah.
Later, when they returned, it was no longer that kingdom, and would eventually become the Roman province of Judea, and was indeed populated with Edomites, along with some original Judahites (Israelites -- not "jews"), and others.
Similar to how Texas today has illegal alien Mexicans, not only Texans and other Americans.
If you were a resident of the Roman province of Judea, you were a Judean in the same way that residents of Texas are Texans.
But that does not mean all Judeans were of the tribe of Israel.
Jews were the adversaries of the Israelites, not the Israelites themselves.
In Hebrew, "Satan" means adversary, not the little red guy with the horns and pitchfork.
I use the Bible to explain who the Jews and Israelites are. The tribe of Judah and Israel were call Israel during the time of Solomon and only split away from each other after his son started to rule. There were many of all the tribes that moved to Judah after the split. The ancient Israelites were referred to a Jews in several parts of the OT. I'll stick with what the Bible says over the Jewish Almanac.
But you seem to be saying that the Bible says the Jews and Israelites were the same people. Maybe you weren't saying that, but that is how it came across.
The "Jews" and the Israelites were two DIFFERENT, DISTINCT people.
True. Jacob/Israel had 12 sons, who were the patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel, who received the Covenant from God. This is why they were "God's Chosen People."
At first, they formed the Kingdom of Israel, then 2 of the 12 tribes split off.
No, when the Kingdom of Judah split from the Kingdom of Israel, there were only two tribes -- Judah and Benjamin -- who became the Kingdom of Judah. These were all Israelites, because they were genetic descents of Jacob/Israel. They just happened to be a sub-set of that family tree.
Starting in Genesis 4:25 and going through Genesis 5, we can trace a direct genetic family tree from Adam through Seth to Noah.
Noah was chosen by God to build the ark due to Noah being "perfect in his ancestry."
It is ALL ABOUT the family tree -- ONE particular branch of it.
Then, starting in Genesis 9:26 and going through Genesis 11, we can further trace this family tree from Noah, through Shem, directly to Abram/Abraham.
Abraham gets the Covenant, passing it to his son and grandson, Issac and Jacob/Israel.
Later, in Matthew 1, we can trace from Jacob/Israel, through Judah, directly to Virgin Mary and Jesus Christ, Himself.
So, God creates Adam, and one particular branch of his family tree is traced all through the Bible down through and back to God Himself, in the form of Jesus Christ.
The entire thing is a family tree -- direct genetic descendents.
This is why it is crucial to understand the distinction between the Kingdom of Israel, the Kingdom of Judah, the tribe of Judah, the Israelite people, and those people who later would live in the Roman province of Judea, called Judeans, but were not necessarily directly related to Judah, and therefore NOT Israelites.
The Jewish Almanac is useful to show that the jews themselves admit they are NOT Israelites.
The Old Testament was the story of the Israelites (NOT "jews"), as well as other people (some of whom were "jews").
2Ch 11:16 And after them out of all the tribes of Israel such as set their hearts to seek the LORD God of Israel came to Jerusalem, to sacrifice unto the LORD God of their fathers.
Those that stayed faithful to God moved south to Judah. The Levites and others according to God.
2Ch 11:3 Speak unto Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, and to all Israel in Judah and Benjamin, saying,
Act 3:12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?
Peter knew all Israel was represented there. Just because a nation is destroyed does not mean the people disappeared!
Anyway, enough arguing over this.