Rule #1: Jews are taught to lie and deceive non-jews, especially in discussions about their religion.
Ew. Another degree of separation? Hard pass.
Rule #2: The jews themselves say that the Jewish Encyclopedia is the final authority on what judaism is, both the written and unwritten teachings. So, there is no reason to dismiss it out-of-hand, and all the reason to read it and find out what it says.
You never bothered to watch the video, which is obvious.
It’s not that I want to disprove the Talmud, I don’t take it as proven, so there’s no need to disprove it.
What YOU think is irrelevant. I agree with you that it is not proven ... BUT THE JEWS TAKE IT AS RELEVANT.
THAT is the point.
You don't have to agree with Mormons, but if you want to understand what they think, then the only way to do that is to understand what they think.
Same goes for the jews, or anyone else.
There is no need to try and earn salvation for ourselves against the Torah.
Well, you went and opened yet ANOTHER can of worms, there. ;-)
The word "Torah" can mean different things to jews, depending on context. Again, due to their lies and deceipt, they use the word to mean different things.
When dealing with a Christian, they will say the Torah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament Bible -- God's Law via Moses.
That is true -- and false. They ALSO use the word Torah to mean ALL of the teachings of Judaism, whether written or unwritten, and that INCLUDES the books of Moses AND the Talmud, among others.
The Talmud's primary mission is to GET AROUND the laws taught by Moses. Jews do NOT want to follow God's Law as taught by Moses. They think their own elder rabbis are smarter than God, and so they have their own teachings in the Talmud and other places -- all of which are concisely described in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Jesus was the Torah made flesh.
Jesus was God in the flesh.
“You must not think I have come to abolish the [Old Testament] Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to complete them. Indeed, I assure you that, while Heaven and earth last, the Law will not lose a single dot or comma until its purpose is complete. -- Matthew 5:17-18
Here, he was talking only with his disciples (he spoke differently to different groups of people, and here he was direct and to the point).
Jews do NOT like the Old Testament Laws. That is what the Talmud is largely about -- how to EVADE those laws. Jesus was clearly saying those old laws are still relevant.
We are all called to walk as he walked.
Jesus came to save the Israelites -- ONLY -- and they were NOT the ancestors of modern day jews:
I am not sent, but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. -- Matthew 15:24
I don’t know how widespread that issue is within Judaism, but I’m aware of that issue in general, and that it, and some number of imposters, likely go back to Jesus’ time.
Rule #1: Jews are taught to lie and deceive non-jews, especially in discussions about their religion.
Rule #2: The jews themselves say that the Jewish Encyclopedia is the final authority on what judaism is, both the written and unwritten teachings. So, there is no reason to dismiss it out-of-hand, and all the reason to read it and find out what it says.
You never bothered to watch the video, which is obvious.
What YOU think is irrelevant. I agree with you that it is not proven ... BUT THE JEWS TAKE IT AS RELEVANT.
THAT is the point.
You don't have to agree with Mormons, but if you want to understand what they think, then the only way to do that is to understand what they think.
Same goes for the jews, or anyone else.
Well, you went and opened yet ANOTHER can of worms, there. ;-)
The word "Torah" can mean different things to jews, depending on context. Again, due to their lies and deceipt, they use the word to mean different things.
When dealing with a Christian, they will say the Torah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament Bible -- God's Law via Moses.
That is true -- and false. They ALSO use the word Torah to mean ALL of the teachings of Judaism, whether written or unwritten, and that INCLUDES the books of Moses AND the Talmud, among others.
The Talmud's primary mission is to GET AROUND the laws taught by Moses. Jews do NOT want to follow God's Law as taught by Moses. They think their own elder rabbis are smarter than God, and so they have their own teachings in the Talmud and other places -- all of which are concisely described in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
Jesus was God in the flesh.
Here, he was talking only with his disciples (he spoke differently to different groups of people, and here he was direct and to the point).
Jews do NOT like the Old Testament Laws. That is what the Talmud is largely about -- how to EVADE those laws. Jesus was clearly saying those old laws are still relevant.
Jesus came to save the Israelites -- ONLY -- and they were NOT the ancestors of modern day jews:
It is!
:-)
That’s the exact problem with Dispensationalism as well.
What’s your objective with those last two comments, exactly?
I agree.
About how the Talmud is about getting around God's Law?
Merely to point out that the jews do not follow God's Law, are not "God's Chosen People," and are not the Israelites of the Bible.
They have THEIR OWN religion, which is largely unknown to Christians and others.
And the reason it is unknown to non-jews is deceit by jews.
Missed this reply getting made.
I don’t know how widespread that issue is within Judaism, but I’m aware of that issue in general, and that it, and some number of imposters, likely go back to Jesus’ time.
This whole thing is a very tricky issue.
Can't argue with that.