except that israel bothered to get recognized by global treaty, and defended their claim via war in the 6 Days War. neither of those things have happened for the palestinian people. any overtures towards "wanting to be a state" are just lipstick over the ugly goal "wanting to be a state with the exact same boundaries as modern Israel, where Jews are wiped out".
there are like 50 muslim nations in the world and 1 jewish nation. so while I agree israel has misdeeds to answer for, their claim and the palestinian claim are not comparable. israel has a right to exist as a state
I am not arguing that. The west divided up the world on political lines after WWII. They created their globalist organization the United Nations and if these countries didn't register then they didn't exist. Prior to this countries existed by conquest and the rest of the world accepted it. This is how the Cherokee Nation became Georgia... I think it was the Cherokees. Does anyone argue that native american nations existed before white man came? They had their lands and fought over them and defended them. Their nations consisted of their people on loosely accepted borders. White man took that through conquest and not because we registered with the United Nations before the Indians did. The rest of the world accepted that America was a new nation.
well my point is Israel is both a registered nation AND took the land by conquest during the 6 days war. so by any laws you want, the land is theirs. and if you want to go by the whole "our forefathers were here" bit, so were Israel's. israel has as much right or more to exist and defend itself as any other nation.
except that israel bothered to get recognized by global treaty, and defended their claim via war in the 6 Days War. neither of those things have happened for the palestinian people. any overtures towards "wanting to be a state" are just lipstick over the ugly goal "wanting to be a state with the exact same boundaries as modern Israel, where Jews are wiped out". there are like 50 muslim nations in the world and 1 jewish nation. so while I agree israel has misdeeds to answer for, their claim and the palestinian claim are not comparable. israel has a right to exist as a state
" israel has a right to exist as a state"
I am not arguing that. The west divided up the world on political lines after WWII. They created their globalist organization the United Nations and if these countries didn't register then they didn't exist. Prior to this countries existed by conquest and the rest of the world accepted it. This is how the Cherokee Nation became Georgia... I think it was the Cherokees. Does anyone argue that native american nations existed before white man came? They had their lands and fought over them and defended them. Their nations consisted of their people on loosely accepted borders. White man took that through conquest and not because we registered with the United Nations before the Indians did. The rest of the world accepted that America was a new nation.
well my point is Israel is both a registered nation AND took the land by conquest during the 6 days war. so by any laws you want, the land is theirs. and if you want to go by the whole "our forefathers were here" bit, so were Israel's. israel has as much right or more to exist and defend itself as any other nation.