I feel we may need to start directing accusations more specifically. For example...This headline could read... "Why does the Jewish elite and DS want Palestinian land?" or "why are the elites of the USA participating in the genocide of a civilian population using the guise of ending terrorism?"
Keep in mind that the citizens of these countries only lose, we never win. Only the elites and deepstate gain.
there is no "palestinian land". there has never in history been a palestinian state in the middle east. best guess, the Philistines were seaborne invaders from the island of Crete. Israel is not their home and never was
Exactly Fren! God used Rome in 70AD in a most dramatic way to scatter the so called "Jews" and kick them out of the land because of their consistent obstinance, their unbelief, they're killing of all the prophets sent to them, their constant turning to satanism...AND...finally their rejection of their Messiah to the point of having Jesus killed by the Roman government. The Zionists are still operating the same way today...most of the world stage is controlled by Zionist Rothschild which most on this forum know is responsible for virtually all the systemic evil on the planet.
Modern Israel wasn't the fulfillment of prophecy as so many of my Christian Evangelical brothers and sisters have been taught. Israel is simply a fiefdom of the Rothschild banking cartel and was funded and created by the Rothschilds money at the expense of some 500 thousand Palestinians living in and around Israel in 1947-48. A good read on this subject is The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Jewish historian Ilan Pappe.
By the time Rome sacked Israel in 70AD, the Hebrew nation had long served its purpose as God had used the Hebrews to usher in the old Mosaic Covenant (Judaism and the Law) which highlighted sin and disobedience and provided a lineage for the future Messiah which was prophesied over and over again by the Old Testament prophets.
Without trying to sound antisemitic (which is difficult because it's used like the word "racist" in our messed up culture)...God picked the Hebrews to usher in the Messiah because, as God put it in Isaiah 48:4..."Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass..." God could have picked a meek and obedient nation, but historically God always seems to use the most difficult people to serve His purposes. For example God chose Moses to lead the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt. Moses was a hard case (Hebrew by bloodline of course). He was a murderer and had difficulty with speech and temper. However, the best example of God using the most difficult and unlikely person to accomplish His purposes was using Saul of Tarsus to ultimately become Paul and write most of the New Testament letters!
In similar fashion, God used a most obstinate, rebellious, unlikely people to usher in the most incredible miracle of our Savior Jesus Christ!
Sorry this is so long...but I cannot end this rant without mentioning to my Evangelical 501c3 church going brothers and sisters that you need to stop reading your NWO poisoned bibles and stop listening to pastor and prophecy charlatans who are teaching you Darby/Dispensational garbage that only serves to put your focus on Israel and takes the focus off of Jesus Christ and the glorious New Covenant of Grace He ushered in when Israel was ended in 70AD by God Himself!
A lot of what you say resonates with me but I’m curious why God can use the obstinate Hebrews for His purpose and the murderer Saul of Tarsus for His purpose but not evil Rothschild for His purpose of creating a Hebrew nation in a day?
Secondly, anything taken to the extreme becomes flawed and dangerous. The same applies to dispensationalism. However dispensationalism cannot be negated. It is an evident truth and it’s my understanding it was around long before Darby. You proved it yourself by acknowledging the purpose of the Hebrews and the purpose of the apostle Paul. These are representative of separate dispensations. The former brought the law the latter spread the gospel of grace.
They (the cabal aka Pharisees aka Cain aka Zionists Rome and on and on) have been doing these horrible things to humanity per ages. I don’t really know their identity because they have adopted and stole too many. Anyhow hopefully this time their days are over.
they didnt "invent" it so much as take their word for the ancient israelite enemy, the Philistines, and slap that name on the area. but there was never a Philistine state in the area, either. they invaded in waves starting in 13 or 1400 bc and constantly battled Egypt and Israel. never took any consequential amount of territory, to the point that archeologists cant even be sure where they came from. the "isle of Crete" theory is based on similar pottery, not any historical record. so while there were some Philistine cities and defeated Philistines probably did mingle w the inhabitants of the land, there was never a cohesive country callled "Philistia" or "Palestine" until the Romans started calling Israel that during their occupation
I see this argument more and more. Because the Palestineans never organized and made a modern state registered with the United Nations means there was never a Palestinean state. That argument is practically a strawman. Any map prior to 1949 shows that land as Palestine because the world recognized it as such because there was no state of Israel. Now along comes the U.N. and the State of Israel at the behest of the Rothschilds after WWII and all the sudden Palestine never existed?
I have no problem with Israels right to exist but I do have a problem with its existence predicated on the displacement of another people. The argument pretends the land was empty and unused and that is clearly untrue.
the word "Palestine" was put there by the Roman government while they ruled the region, based on their word for the Israelite enemy, Philistines. the Philistines were a seafaring invader and it's not clear where they came from originally, but 1. they were defeated by Israel and Egypt, and only ever had a few cities
2. the cities were few and far between, and never established a country called "philistia" or "palestine"
the arabs living in Gaza today have no claim to "the nation of palestine", because there never was one. and even tho they could potentially have petitioned for a state and gotten one, as the Jews did following the fall of the Ottoman empire, their commitment to war and terrorism has basically disqualified them from statehood. Nobody, jew or Arab, wants a Palestinian in their nation because they are completely hate-filled suicide bombers from birth. It isnt the "nation of Palestine" truly at issue, or any sympathetic neighboring country could just say, "come here and settle". but they dont. The palestinians hate the nation of Israel and want to see it wiped out. "from the river to the sea" means they will take out all the territory Israel has, in a sort of "manifest destiny". so even if Israel granted them more space, or if Egypt or Jordan or Syria took in the palestinians, they would use their newfound space and wealth to create more terrorist attacks and international incidents. nobody wants them. they have been raising their kids to attack Israel since the 1950s.
This is why I don't really take sides in this issue. Everything you say about the Palestineans is pretty much true about the Israelis. Israel is an apartheid terrorist state. They did 9/11 for peats sake. Maybe the Palestineans are a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths, but after the way they have been treated, how you would you act towards the people that threw you and your family out of your home and ancestral lands? I actually knew a Palestinean family who came to the US once they were forcibly removed from their home so a jewish family could live there. No one wants to talk about that though. God forbid!
the philistines were no longer a thing by the time of Christ. they lost a war with Egypt and were eventually assimilated into various Canaanite cultures.
Correct. This is a joint US and Israel project that has been around since the 60's after the Arab-Israeli war. In addition to the canal, there are massive gas reserves off shore. You guessed it - right near Gaza. Oh, and there is also a pipeline deal between Greece, Italy, and Israel in the works that will move that gas to the EU. Russia supports the Gazans - why? They don't want the pipeline or the canal. Nothing is ever because of the reasons they are trying to sell us. It always boils down to the money and power.
As a side note: Why is the US government beating the war drum against Iran? Could it be because they have their own central bank. Go figure. The globalists have been after Iran ever since the Iranians ousted the globalist puppet and told the cabal to take a hike. The US took out Libya and Iraq for much the same reason - defying the global central banks. Follow the money.
I feel we may need to start directing accusations more specifically. For example...This headline could read... "Why does the Jewish elite and DS want Palestinian land?" or "why are the elites of the USA participating in the genocide of a civilian population using the guise of ending terrorism?" Keep in mind that the citizens of these countries only lose, we never win. Only the elites and deepstate gain.
there is no "palestinian land". there has never in history been a palestinian state in the middle east. best guess, the Philistines were seaborne invaders from the island of Crete. Israel is not their home and never was
Right. It belongs to Rome
Exactly Fren! God used Rome in 70AD in a most dramatic way to scatter the so called "Jews" and kick them out of the land because of their consistent obstinance, their unbelief, they're killing of all the prophets sent to them, their constant turning to satanism...AND...finally their rejection of their Messiah to the point of having Jesus killed by the Roman government. The Zionists are still operating the same way today...most of the world stage is controlled by Zionist Rothschild which most on this forum know is responsible for virtually all the systemic evil on the planet.
Modern Israel wasn't the fulfillment of prophecy as so many of my Christian Evangelical brothers and sisters have been taught. Israel is simply a fiefdom of the Rothschild banking cartel and was funded and created by the Rothschilds money at the expense of some 500 thousand Palestinians living in and around Israel in 1947-48. A good read on this subject is The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Jewish historian Ilan Pappe.
By the time Rome sacked Israel in 70AD, the Hebrew nation had long served its purpose as God had used the Hebrews to usher in the old Mosaic Covenant (Judaism and the Law) which highlighted sin and disobedience and provided a lineage for the future Messiah which was prophesied over and over again by the Old Testament prophets.
Without trying to sound antisemitic (which is difficult because it's used like the word "racist" in our messed up culture)...God picked the Hebrews to usher in the Messiah because, as God put it in Isaiah 48:4..."Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass..." God could have picked a meek and obedient nation, but historically God always seems to use the most difficult people to serve His purposes. For example God chose Moses to lead the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt. Moses was a hard case (Hebrew by bloodline of course). He was a murderer and had difficulty with speech and temper. However, the best example of God using the most difficult and unlikely person to accomplish His purposes was using Saul of Tarsus to ultimately become Paul and write most of the New Testament letters!
In similar fashion, God used a most obstinate, rebellious, unlikely people to usher in the most incredible miracle of our Savior Jesus Christ!
Sorry this is so long...but I cannot end this rant without mentioning to my Evangelical 501c3 church going brothers and sisters that you need to stop reading your NWO poisoned bibles and stop listening to pastor and prophecy charlatans who are teaching you Darby/Dispensational garbage that only serves to put your focus on Israel and takes the focus off of Jesus Christ and the glorious New Covenant of Grace He ushered in when Israel was ended in 70AD by God Himself!
A lot of what you say resonates with me but I’m curious why God can use the obstinate Hebrews for His purpose and the murderer Saul of Tarsus for His purpose but not evil Rothschild for His purpose of creating a Hebrew nation in a day?
Secondly, anything taken to the extreme becomes flawed and dangerous. The same applies to dispensationalism. However dispensationalism cannot be negated. It is an evident truth and it’s my understanding it was around long before Darby. You proved it yourself by acknowledging the purpose of the Hebrews and the purpose of the apostle Paul. These are representative of separate dispensations. The former brought the law the latter spread the gospel of grace.
Moses wasn't a tough guy at all, he was meek and shy. He could only speak if there was no eye contact, Aaron had to speak for him
There is no such thing as "antisemitic", the J__s invented the word to perpetuate victimization.
They (the cabal aka Pharisees aka Cain aka Zionists Rome and on and on) have been doing these horrible things to humanity per ages. I don’t really know their identity because they have adopted and stole too many. Anyhow hopefully this time their days are over.
Rome invented Palestine to humilate the Jews, something going on to this day.
they didnt "invent" it so much as take their word for the ancient israelite enemy, the Philistines, and slap that name on the area. but there was never a Philistine state in the area, either. they invaded in waves starting in 13 or 1400 bc and constantly battled Egypt and Israel. never took any consequential amount of territory, to the point that archeologists cant even be sure where they came from. the "isle of Crete" theory is based on similar pottery, not any historical record. so while there were some Philistine cities and defeated Philistines probably did mingle w the inhabitants of the land, there was never a cohesive country callled "Philistia" or "Palestine" until the Romans started calling Israel that during their occupation
Natural law would say that people, stateless or not, occupying the land have a legitimate claim to it.
I see this argument more and more. Because the Palestineans never organized and made a modern state registered with the United Nations means there was never a Palestinean state. That argument is practically a strawman. Any map prior to 1949 shows that land as Palestine because the world recognized it as such because there was no state of Israel. Now along comes the U.N. and the State of Israel at the behest of the Rothschilds after WWII and all the sudden Palestine never existed?
I have no problem with Israels right to exist but I do have a problem with its existence predicated on the displacement of another people. The argument pretends the land was empty and unused and that is clearly untrue.
the word "Palestine" was put there by the Roman government while they ruled the region, based on their word for the Israelite enemy, Philistines. the Philistines were a seafaring invader and it's not clear where they came from originally, but 1. they were defeated by Israel and Egypt, and only ever had a few cities 2. the cities were few and far between, and never established a country called "philistia" or "palestine"
the arabs living in Gaza today have no claim to "the nation of palestine", because there never was one. and even tho they could potentially have petitioned for a state and gotten one, as the Jews did following the fall of the Ottoman empire, their commitment to war and terrorism has basically disqualified them from statehood. Nobody, jew or Arab, wants a Palestinian in their nation because they are completely hate-filled suicide bombers from birth. It isnt the "nation of Palestine" truly at issue, or any sympathetic neighboring country could just say, "come here and settle". but they dont. The palestinians hate the nation of Israel and want to see it wiped out. "from the river to the sea" means they will take out all the territory Israel has, in a sort of "manifest destiny". so even if Israel granted them more space, or if Egypt or Jordan or Syria took in the palestinians, they would use their newfound space and wealth to create more terrorist attacks and international incidents. nobody wants them. they have been raising their kids to attack Israel since the 1950s.
This is why I don't really take sides in this issue. Everything you say about the Palestineans is pretty much true about the Israelis. Israel is an apartheid terrorist state. They did 9/11 for peats sake. Maybe the Palestineans are a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths, but after the way they have been treated, how you would you act towards the people that threw you and your family out of your home and ancestral lands? I actually knew a Palestinean family who came to the US once they were forcibly removed from their home so a jewish family could live there. No one wants to talk about that though. God forbid!
It could be that the Philistines are the descendents of the Jews during the time of Jesus
the philistines were no longer a thing by the time of Christ. they lost a war with Egypt and were eventually assimilated into various Canaanite cultures.
Agreed, we have to make the distinction between the deep state and deep state slaves. Deepstate israel
Well said
Correct. This is a joint US and Israel project that has been around since the 60's after the Arab-Israeli war. In addition to the canal, there are massive gas reserves off shore. You guessed it - right near Gaza. Oh, and there is also a pipeline deal between Greece, Italy, and Israel in the works that will move that gas to the EU. Russia supports the Gazans - why? They don't want the pipeline or the canal. Nothing is ever because of the reasons they are trying to sell us. It always boils down to the money and power.
As a side note: Why is the US government beating the war drum against Iran? Could it be because they have their own central bank. Go figure. The globalists have been after Iran ever since the Iranians ousted the globalist puppet and told the cabal to take a hike. The US took out Libya and Iraq for much the same reason - defying the global central banks. Follow the money.