The word "dispensationalism" could be applied to what you are saying, but your argument is merely semantics and isn't how dispensationalist teaching is literally "woven into" the narrative of the Bible erroneously. Darbyists love to ignore all time stamps given in scripture to clarify when events prophesied would happen. Instead they ignore the time stamps and tell their flocks that it's in the future in order to take away from the finished work of Jesus on the Cross and the end of the Old Covenant. Two examples...In Matthew 24 Jesus give His disciples a list of events and circumstances that will occur in the future. Without exception each one of the bullet points Jesus gives is used by Dispensationalist Evangelicals to explain what will signs going on in our lifetime or in the future in Israel. The problem is pastors, professors at most Christian Colleges and Seminaries, Prophecy charlatans, etc. refuse to deal with verse 34 where Jesus plainly says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Seriously, why would Jesus try to comfort an early Church that was going to be in the midst of severe persecution by telling them a bunch of data points that were going to happen thousands of years into the future?
If you read Josephus account of the sacking of Jerusalem in 70AD, you see that Jesus was 100% correct. Everything He said would happen prior to that generation's passing did indeed happen...exactly!
You're correct, God can indeed use the Rothschilds to create a new Hebrew nation...BUT, that's not what happened. A new Hebrew nation...bloodline...wasn't created. A very worldly, satanic, sick and highly corrupt nation was created and it's ambition is being fueled by the sick teachings of Zionism. God, using the Rothschilds to create a wicked state on the backs of slaughtered Palestinians is not at all something the God of Scripture would do!
I don't think the dangers of Dispensational teaching can be overstated. In fact, I think it's safe to say one of the main reasons we are losing our country and way of life is directly because of the teachings of Darby and the Scofield NWO bible. Most Evangelical 501c3 Tax Exempt NWO churches are teaching their flocks that Israel is the key to prophesy and that the Jews are still God's favored people. The Zionist feed off this belief and is the main reason they cling to their world domination ideology. To them all other people are just Goyim and Scofield Christians perpetuate this wicked racism.
Darby also taught that there would be world government but that Christians would be "Raptured" out before the really bad stuff of God's judgement of mankind began. With this frame of mind firmly established in the spirit of well meaning Christian men and women, is it any wonder most of them would choose to sit back and just wait to be raptured out of harms way? Why fight against something that apparently God has foreordained to occur? This is why there has been minimal push back from the Christians in America against the evil and wickedness that's overrun our nation! This sad state can be laid directly on the lap of the inept 501c3 Scofield Churches! If our Founding Fathers had been taught by Dispensationalist Pastors, we would all be under the rule of Britain and the greatest missionary nation in the history of the world never would have existed most likely.
Clearly world government is not in our future...it's like herding cats. Nationalism is stronger than ever and to think that God is going to allow this when He explicitly gave His Son the Keys to the Kingdom after His resurrection and destroyed the plans of the devil is just not Biblical and it goes completely against God's Sovereign character. Jesus will never relinquish His control and ownership ever again. Adam had it once and gave it to satan. Jesus received it back when he defeated satan once and forever on the Cross. Now it's just a matter of time (how long I don't know...could take another thousand, two thousand years or longer) for the beautiful, simple message of Christ's Gospel to win the world over in love. As Jesus told Peter, "And I say also unto thee, That thou are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Doesn't sound like world government was in Jesus' idea for the future either?
First off, I want to make it clear I am not a "dispensationalist" like you are describing. Other than knowing his name I haven't clue who Darby is. I think you should open your mind up a bit and realize, as I stated before extremes are always dangerous but not all who agree that there a clear dispensations in the bible, some even called dispensations by the authors themselves (Paul), are "dispensationalists" associated with Darby or his teachings.
For instance, you are completely right about about Matthew 24 and how verse 34 is overlooked. What you don't realize is that all four gospels were dispensed to the Hebrews. Jesus even told them Himself that his gospel was for the Hebrews and not to spread it to the gentiles. I learned that from a dispensationalist. It in no way means the wisdom or the knowledge in Jesus' gospel is not for us to learn from as well it just wasn't directed to us gentiles. Assuming I'm speaking to one. The problem is not differentiating between prophecy and mystery. Jesus' gospel was born out of prophecy. His coming and suffering was long foretold. However, the mystery of Paul's gospel was mystery until Jesus revealed to Paul from heaven in the desert. The mystery of salvation by faith through grace. That bit of info was held close to God's chest until the time he determined was right to release it. If you read Paul's letters you will come across 8 mysteries in total. The rapture is one of them.
Matthew24 is not used to argue for a Pre-Trib rapture. It can't be because it is delivered to the Hebrews specifically. It is Jerusalem specific. Not to mention the fact that Paul speaks of the rapture as a mystery. Is Paul a liar? He would have to be to call it a mystery knowing that Jesus spoke of end times to the others. Paul is not speaking of the same events. This is just one instance of how you agree with dispensationalism. From the flow of our conversation you agree a lot more than you think. My sister was the same way until I held her hand through a few topics until the light came on. You have to ignore Darby and his supporters but recognize while they are wrong the tool they use is not evil or a detriment but quite the opposite.
So we agree on that. I want to encourage you to not throw the baby out with the bath water. Just like OJ gives a bad name to defense lawyers so does this Darby character to dispensationalism, an excellent tool used to rightly divide when wielded properly.
You lost me on your world gov opinions. Revelation is all prophecy. It will come to pass. It is nearly all Hebrew centric. Jacob's trouble, the great tribulation, and the 144,000. It is a time where the Hebrews along with all other non-believers up to that point. I say up to that point because Jacob's Trouble will be a public event for all the world to see. All will see the second advent of Christ. It has to be public because the only way Hebrews will wake up is through signs and wonders. It's funny because Jesus showed up with all the signs and wonders but because they were expecting a warrior to overthrow Rome they completely disregarded Him. He was all about faith, love and spirit. Hebrews were who were all about the law and the physical world could not comprehend.
This is another reason why the Pre-Trib rapture is a mystery as Paul says. It is a private event. Only Christians who believe will be raptured. Jesus will only appear in the clouds and gather the members of His body (The Church is the Body of Christ, another mystery). The world will not see this even other than a lot of the population disappearing or dying. Another mystery Paul speaks of is the transformation of our bodies. The dead will rise first and be renewed in their resurrections and the living believers will be transformed as well. Its not clear what condition our earthly bodies will be left in.
This is is all spoken of very clearly by Paul. No mixing words or their meanings. No spells in the spelling. 1600 KJV. Its all there. I wouldn't trust other translations for details. They will still guide you to Jesus as the way, the truth, and the life but other translations will get fuzzy in detailed studies.
BTW, thanks for the Josephus reference. I am looking forward to checking that out. I always knew Matt24 had nothing to do with PreTrib but I hadn't heard how it correlates to the sacking of Jerusalem.
I'll leave you with a couple videos from the Pastors that opened my eyes to the usefulness of Dispensationalism and rightly dividing God's word. They are not "Hyper Dispensationalists". They are not "Darbyists". They use the tool of dispensationalism only to rightly divide God's word. Separating truth from truth to better understand the literal meaning of God's word.
The word "dispensationalism" could be applied to what you are saying, but your argument is merely semantics and isn't how dispensationalist teaching is literally "woven into" the narrative of the Bible erroneously. Darbyists love to ignore all time stamps given in scripture to clarify when events prophesied would happen. Instead they ignore the time stamps and tell their flocks that it's in the future in order to take away from the finished work of Jesus on the Cross and the end of the Old Covenant. Two examples...In Matthew 24 Jesus give His disciples a list of events and circumstances that will occur in the future. Without exception each one of the bullet points Jesus gives is used by Dispensationalist Evangelicals to explain what will signs going on in our lifetime or in the future in Israel. The problem is pastors, professors at most Christian Colleges and Seminaries, Prophecy charlatans, etc. refuse to deal with verse 34 where Jesus plainly says, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Seriously, why would Jesus try to comfort an early Church that was going to be in the midst of severe persecution by telling them a bunch of data points that were going to happen thousands of years into the future?
If you read Josephus account of the sacking of Jerusalem in 70AD, you see that Jesus was 100% correct. Everything He said would happen prior to that generation's passing did indeed happen...exactly!
You're correct, God can indeed use the Rothschilds to create a new Hebrew nation...BUT, that's not what happened. A new Hebrew nation...bloodline...wasn't created. A very worldly, satanic, sick and highly corrupt nation was created and it's ambition is being fueled by the sick teachings of Zionism. God, using the Rothschilds to create a wicked state on the backs of slaughtered Palestinians is not at all something the God of Scripture would do!
I don't think the dangers of Dispensational teaching can be overstated. In fact, I think it's safe to say one of the main reasons we are losing our country and way of life is directly because of the teachings of Darby and the Scofield NWO bible. Most Evangelical 501c3 Tax Exempt NWO churches are teaching their flocks that Israel is the key to prophesy and that the Jews are still God's favored people. The Zionist feed off this belief and is the main reason they cling to their world domination ideology. To them all other people are just Goyim and Scofield Christians perpetuate this wicked racism.
Darby also taught that there would be world government but that Christians would be "Raptured" out before the really bad stuff of God's judgement of mankind began. With this frame of mind firmly established in the spirit of well meaning Christian men and women, is it any wonder most of them would choose to sit back and just wait to be raptured out of harms way? Why fight against something that apparently God has foreordained to occur? This is why there has been minimal push back from the Christians in America against the evil and wickedness that's overrun our nation! This sad state can be laid directly on the lap of the inept 501c3 Scofield Churches! If our Founding Fathers had been taught by Dispensationalist Pastors, we would all be under the rule of Britain and the greatest missionary nation in the history of the world never would have existed most likely.
Clearly world government is not in our future...it's like herding cats. Nationalism is stronger than ever and to think that God is going to allow this when He explicitly gave His Son the Keys to the Kingdom after His resurrection and destroyed the plans of the devil is just not Biblical and it goes completely against God's Sovereign character. Jesus will never relinquish His control and ownership ever again. Adam had it once and gave it to satan. Jesus received it back when he defeated satan once and forever on the Cross. Now it's just a matter of time (how long I don't know...could take another thousand, two thousand years or longer) for the beautiful, simple message of Christ's Gospel to win the world over in love. As Jesus told Peter, "And I say also unto thee, That thou are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Doesn't sound like world government was in Jesus' idea for the future either?
First off, I want to make it clear I am not a "dispensationalist" like you are describing. Other than knowing his name I haven't clue who Darby is. I think you should open your mind up a bit and realize, as I stated before extremes are always dangerous but not all who agree that there a clear dispensations in the bible, some even called dispensations by the authors themselves (Paul), are "dispensationalists" associated with Darby or his teachings.
For instance, you are completely right about about Matthew 24 and how verse 34 is overlooked. What you don't realize is that all four gospels were dispensed to the Hebrews. Jesus even told them Himself that his gospel was for the Hebrews and not to spread it to the gentiles. I learned that from a dispensationalist. It in no way means the wisdom or the knowledge in Jesus' gospel is not for us to learn from as well it just wasn't directed to us gentiles. Assuming I'm speaking to one. The problem is not differentiating between prophecy and mystery. Jesus' gospel was born out of prophecy. His coming and suffering was long foretold. However, the mystery of Paul's gospel was mystery until Jesus revealed to Paul from heaven in the desert. The mystery of salvation by faith through grace. That bit of info was held close to God's chest until the time he determined was right to release it. If you read Paul's letters you will come across 8 mysteries in total. The rapture is one of them.
Matthew24 is not used to argue for a Pre-Trib rapture. It can't be because it is delivered to the Hebrews specifically. It is Jerusalem specific. Not to mention the fact that Paul speaks of the rapture as a mystery. Is Paul a liar? He would have to be to call it a mystery knowing that Jesus spoke of end times to the others. Paul is not speaking of the same events. This is just one instance of how you agree with dispensationalism. From the flow of our conversation you agree a lot more than you think. My sister was the same way until I held her hand through a few topics until the light came on. You have to ignore Darby and his supporters but recognize while they are wrong the tool they use is not evil or a detriment but quite the opposite.
So we agree on that. I want to encourage you to not throw the baby out with the bath water. Just like OJ gives a bad name to defense lawyers so does this Darby character to dispensationalism, an excellent tool used to rightly divide when wielded properly.
You lost me on your world gov opinions. Revelation is all prophecy. It will come to pass. It is nearly all Hebrew centric. Jacob's trouble, the great tribulation, and the 144,000. It is a time where the Hebrews along with all other non-believers up to that point. I say up to that point because Jacob's Trouble will be a public event for all the world to see. All will see the second advent of Christ. It has to be public because the only way Hebrews will wake up is through signs and wonders. It's funny because Jesus showed up with all the signs and wonders but because they were expecting a warrior to overthrow Rome they completely disregarded Him. He was all about faith, love and spirit. Hebrews were who were all about the law and the physical world could not comprehend.
This is another reason why the Pre-Trib rapture is a mystery as Paul says. It is a private event. Only Christians who believe will be raptured. Jesus will only appear in the clouds and gather the members of His body (The Church is the Body of Christ, another mystery). The world will not see this even other than a lot of the population disappearing or dying. Another mystery Paul speaks of is the transformation of our bodies. The dead will rise first and be renewed in their resurrections and the living believers will be transformed as well. Its not clear what condition our earthly bodies will be left in.
This is is all spoken of very clearly by Paul. No mixing words or their meanings. No spells in the spelling. 1600 KJV. Its all there. I wouldn't trust other translations for details. They will still guide you to Jesus as the way, the truth, and the life but other translations will get fuzzy in detailed studies.
BTW, thanks for the Josephus reference. I am looking forward to checking that out. I always knew Matt24 had nothing to do with PreTrib but I hadn't heard how it correlates to the sacking of Jerusalem.
I'll leave you with a couple videos from the Pastors that opened my eyes to the usefulness of Dispensationalism and rightly dividing God's word. They are not "Hyper Dispensationalists". They are not "Darbyists". They use the tool of dispensationalism only to rightly divide God's word. Separating truth from truth to better understand the literal meaning of God's word.
What is a Dispensation? https://youtu.be/zqLhxo6F-Gs?si=tW4ytiEe8qD-OvPZ
The Basics of Rightly Dividing https://youtu.be/nboxWhqQd-8?si=7ExZJ3kSwaIMbmnk
Top #1 PreTribulation Video https://youtu.be/GbeuBHQD_HA?si=iJe2oe4WDQK5X5xW
Rightly Dividing Prophecy and Mystery https://youtu.be/mFedBSAHHpg?si=zLy7Gv8Z8pBQZXZA
God Bless brother!