Paul was chosen by Jesus, he was permanently changed in that moment. Interesting how people to claim Paul was "stealing" Jesus' message and changing it for himself, they look at his life as Pharisee as all he ever was, apparently no one is ever allowed to change.
One could argue that he always knew his Lord, he just didn't know that the same was this Jesus he was persecuting. Jesus made that clear to him on the road to Damascus, long time ago.....
Same could be true of any Jewish person today, it's always possible. I once had this discussion with a Jewish person in rabbinical school & at some point she realized that this Jesus I spoke about could be the Messiah. I guess there are 2 versions of the Messiah in their tradition. Most of the time they speak of the Davic Messiah who is a victorious figure but she explained that there is also mention of what she called a "Machiac ben Yo-off. (or something like that) who is a more tragic figure, like Jesus
She charged me not to tell anyone that she said that though. I guess there is fear in their community about that.
Inspoken’s comment is exactly where I was going with mine.
Thank you for the clear wording.
In synagogues, they refuse to teach Isaiah 53, because it gets too obvious, and they “don’t want people to get confused.”
Don’t worry, though, it’s definitely not only Jews who can be stiff-necked. It’s very much a human condition.
The conflict between Judaism and Christianity is a very interesting one. It shouldn’t exist, but Satan is astoundingly good at deception. He’s got both sides off course. We truly all have to humble ourselves and look to the scriptures.
You want it to get really fun? The Muslims claim that the Torah is authoritative and claim Jesus is the greatest prophet. Should they be on our side, too? No idea! There may be a huge conversion movement to Christianity underway within their ranks, though, if some things I’ve seen are real. One big thing that keeps them from converting is Trinitarian doctrine, which may or may not be correct, but are we actually correct about the scriptural basis for it, or is it a doctrine of men?
No they do not.
They have much hatred for Messianic jews as well.
So did Paul.
Paul was chosen by Jesus, he was permanently changed in that moment. Interesting how people to claim Paul was "stealing" Jesus' message and changing it for himself, they look at his life as Pharisee as all he ever was, apparently no one is ever allowed to change.
One could argue that he always knew his Lord, he just didn't know that the same was this Jesus he was persecuting. Jesus made that clear to him on the road to Damascus, long time ago.....
Same could be true of any Jewish person today, it's always possible. I once had this discussion with a Jewish person in rabbinical school & at some point she realized that this Jesus I spoke about could be the Messiah. I guess there are 2 versions of the Messiah in their tradition. Most of the time they speak of the Davic Messiah who is a victorious figure but she explained that there is also mention of what she called a "Machiac ben Yo-off. (or something like that) who is a more tragic figure, like Jesus
She charged me not to tell anyone that she said that though. I guess there is fear in their community about that.
Inspoken’s comment is exactly where I was going with mine.
Thank you for the clear wording.
In synagogues, they refuse to teach Isaiah 53, because it gets too obvious, and they “don’t want people to get confused.”
Don’t worry, though, it’s definitely not only Jews who can be stiff-necked. It’s very much a human condition.
The conflict between Judaism and Christianity is a very interesting one. It shouldn’t exist, but Satan is astoundingly good at deception. He’s got both sides off course. We truly all have to humble ourselves and look to the scriptures.
You want it to get really fun? The Muslims claim that the Torah is authoritative and claim Jesus is the greatest prophet. Should they be on our side, too? No idea! There may be a huge conversion movement to Christianity underway within their ranks, though, if some things I’ve seen are real. One big thing that keeps them from converting is Trinitarian doctrine, which may or may not be correct, but are we actually correct about the scriptural basis for it, or is it a doctrine of men?