I concur with body language maven, the wording was intentional and there was mutual understanding, however: that last MJ shake of head I believe looked more like "can't believe you said it / son of a gun" than 'we did it.'
Now, speaker of 45 the house vs 45th soth... What would that mean for the plan or q/q+ ?
Now that confuses me, though- I thought the corporation happened right after the civil war, where we got sold out for debt... I know there were several stages of financial corruption, the change to all caps and documents swapped, the institution of SSNs, confiscation of private gold. Which presidency was the last of the original union of states?
The commonly accepted date I have seen for the US becoming a corporation was 1871. However I have no idea if it happened exactly that year or sometime around then. But if that was the year, the last US president to be elected before 1871 was Ulysses S. Grant who served as president from 1869 to 1877. He was the 18th POTUS, so the first real president we have now would be the 19th.
The last speaker elected before 1871 was James G. Blaine who presided over the 41st, 42nd, and 43rd congresses from 1869 through 1875. He was himself the 28th SOTH.
I did; that's why I am confused as to the meaning of this Scalise comment. I was hoping someone was going to have the part that I missed. But still nothing seems to quite match up. Thank you.
Correct, by the official record the 45th SOTH was John W. McCormack who served in the position from 1962 to 1971.
However I wonder if Scalise was referring to the speaker residing over the 45th congress when he called Johnson the 45th speaker. Perhaps these two ways of numbering are somewhat interchangeable?
That one was a blast.
I concur with body language maven, the wording was intentional and there was mutual understanding, however: that last MJ shake of head I believe looked more like "can't believe you said it / son of a gun" than 'we did it.'
Now, speaker of 45 the house vs 45th soth... What would that mean for the plan or q/q+ ?
The 44th congress lines up nicely with when the US became a corporation. The 44th SOTH was in the 1960-70s. 🤷♂️
Now that confuses me, though- I thought the corporation happened right after the civil war, where we got sold out for debt... I know there were several stages of financial corruption, the change to all caps and documents swapped, the institution of SSNs, confiscation of private gold. Which presidency was the last of the original union of states?
The commonly accepted date I have seen for the US becoming a corporation was 1871. However I have no idea if it happened exactly that year or sometime around then. But if that was the year, the last US president to be elected before 1871 was Ulysses S. Grant who served as president from 1869 to 1877. He was the 18th POTUS, so the first real president we have now would be the 19th.
Okay, I do see that around a lot. Which Congress house #was the last, then, if we take Grant as the milepost?
Take a look for yourself
The last speaker elected before 1871 was James G. Blaine who presided over the 41st, 42nd, and 43rd congresses from 1869 through 1875. He was himself the 28th SOTH.
I did; that's why I am confused as to the meaning of this Scalise comment. I was hoping someone was going to have the part that I missed. But still nothing seems to quite match up. Thank you.
Yup. Scalise's statement was just tantalizing enough to get me excited while remaining obscure enough to leave me confused. Well played Mr. Scalise!
44th Speaker of the house was Michael C Kerr (D) Dec 6 1875 - Mar 4 1877Unfortunately, I factchecked this (yikes, I hate that word) last time this was posted, and this is not correct.
List of speakers
The first column is the Congress Number not the speaker number. So Michael C Kerr was the speaker in 44th congress, but he was the 32nd speaker.
The actual 44th speaker is somewhere in 1933 - gotta count manually.
Correct, by the official record the 45th SOTH was John W. McCormack who served in the position from 1962 to 1971.
However I wonder if Scalise was referring to the speaker residing over the 45th congress when he called Johnson the 45th speaker. Perhaps these two ways of numbering are somewhat interchangeable?
so John nance Garner 1931-1933
Yep.
Nice, good catch, don't worry - i like being wrong, and i don't care if you use a fact check terminology if you're correcting a mistake.