He also needs to have a legitimate need to know to possess classified information. The clearance isn't enough. I'm not saying he doesn't have it. But I'm curious what they will admit that need to know is. Things are about to get very juicy. But really, the clearance or need to know doesn't matter. All of these documents were legally declassified.
They don't receive briefings on the millions of pieces of classified information in existence. Only on what they need to know. They don't need to know everything. In the government clearance world that's a very specific term with a very specific meaning. You can't just say you need to know. Hell, when he was officially President they didn't tell him everything.
The President as head of State is the ultimate authority on access and need to know. Any attempt by Congress to create a law to curtail this authority would be an unconstitutional attempt by one branch of government to dictate the behavior of another independent branch.
If the President is not the ultimate authority, who is? Congress? An unelected bureaucrat? If this can be true for matters of security classification, then what stops it being true for everything?
It definitely has been. There are court cases that have already given the President the power to declassify anything he wants. He was the governing authority and by law had the power to declassify. That's been ruled upon already. The fact that he's being charged is a ridiculous joke.
It's the difference between capability and action. My car has enough gas to get me to Virginia. But did I actually drive to Virginia?
The president has the power to declassify.
But did that mean he took the action to declassify these documents. So far no evidence has been presented for this.
Remember the judge in this case are treating these documents as currently classified.
Trump's lawyers have to get a security clearance and the classified evidence can only be view at a secure part of the courthouse.
Former U.S. President Donald Trump and his lawyers may only review classified evidence in a secure place as he prepares for a criminal trial over his handling of secret documents after he left office in 2021, a judge ruled on Wednesday.
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The order requires Trump and his lawyers to review and discuss all classified evidence in what is known as a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF.
He said he did. He has people who worked for him who said he did. That's all it takes. That's not even the argument the Government is making. They are saying that after Biden took office he reclassified the documents. The same Biden who did not have the power to declassify as VP and yet had thousands upon thousands of classified documents that he took with him. By the government's argument they could say anyone is in possession of something Biden says is now classified and arrest you for it. It doesn't work that way.
He also needs to have a legitimate need to know to possess classified information. The clearance isn't enough. I'm not saying he doesn't have it. But I'm curious what they will admit that need to know is. Things are about to get very juicy. But really, the clearance or need to know doesn't matter. All of these documents were legally declassified.
Exactly, early on those in the know stated it was all declassified.
POTUS always has NTK, they still receive briefings.
They don't receive briefings on the millions of pieces of classified information in existence. Only on what they need to know. They don't need to know everything. In the government clearance world that's a very specific term with a very specific meaning. You can't just say you need to know. Hell, when he was officially President they didn't tell him everything.
The President as head of State is the ultimate authority on access and need to know. Any attempt by Congress to create a law to curtail this authority would be an unconstitutional attempt by one branch of government to dictate the behavior of another independent branch.
If the President is not the ultimate authority, who is? Congress? An unelected bureaucrat? If this can be true for matters of security classification, then what stops it being true for everything?
Of course they told him everything my dude. CIC is never on a NTK basis. He IS know at all times.
So far no evidence has been presented for this.
It definitely has been. There are court cases that have already given the President the power to declassify anything he wants. He was the governing authority and by law had the power to declassify. That's been ruled upon already. The fact that he's being charged is a ridiculous joke.
It's the difference between capability and action. My car has enough gas to get me to Virginia. But did I actually drive to Virginia?
The president has the power to declassify.
But did that mean he took the action to declassify these documents. So far no evidence has been presented for this.
Remember the judge in this case are treating these documents as currently classified. Trump's lawyers have to get a security clearance and the classified evidence can only be view at a secure part of the courthouse.
He said he did. He has people who worked for him who said he did. That's all it takes. That's not even the argument the Government is making. They are saying that after Biden took office he reclassified the documents. The same Biden who did not have the power to declassify as VP and yet had thousands upon thousands of classified documents that he took with him. By the government's argument they could say anyone is in possession of something Biden says is now classified and arrest you for it. It doesn't work that way.