Name one institution as old as the Roman Catholic Church.
You can't, because the people behind the curtain make sure to constantly rename all the organizations they control, as well as change their own names, so that no one can catch on to them, or at least they hope.
Evil is deceptive, it hides. The Roman Catholic Church does not hide.
Dead?? Our Jesus is still very much alive in the Holy Eucharist! He is our hope and our treasure. The Deep State Corrupt Government doesn’t make conservative Christians bad and the Deep State Church doesn’t make the Catholic Church dead. God we praise You and thank you for Your protection of Your bride.
I was referring to Zoroastrianism, not Jesus or the Catholic Church.
My original point was pretty much that the Church has lived for 2000 years, which is a compelling reason for me to believe there is Truth behind it. So certainly the Church is not dead, nor is our Lord ;)
I would be careful to be dismissive. This is the world's oldest "religion". Also, be aware that Wikipedia has a vested interest in presenting it as dead.
I'm not arguing against you; I'm building on your initial point:
Track it's symbolism, how it's evolved, what it's integrated with. Sure, the initial, rigid interpretation of it (as stated by Wikipedia) may look pretty dead/dated, but there's a strong case to be made that slithered through the millenia and is heavily intertwined with modern Free Masonry and Luciferianism / Satanism. This potentially could be the "Whore of Babylon" in Revelations.
Variants appear to me to have infiltrated most powerful organizations; including the Vatican.
I could also be totally crazy and am known for tilting with windmills...
Interesting thought. I wouldn't be surprised if all the false religions were just variations of the same lie. And Satan being the father of lies, every false religion might as well just be its own flavor of Satanism anyway. And maybe they all trace back to this one beginning. The opposite of the original Judaism, which became Christianity.
Maybe Zoroastrianism became Satanism in the same way. A kind of revealing of the full truth of the religion. The same way Christ revealed the full truth of Judaism.
Christianity and Satanism are the fulfillment of Judaism and Zoroastrianism, respectively.
Not exclusively for that reason, but I certainly see it as supporting evidence due to the fact it's a somewhat unique trait for an institution when contrasted with all the deepstate institutions and organizations.
And to be clear, by "hide" I'm referring to the fact they have existed in present form for their entire, well, existence. Obviously, they "hide" certain things, as evidenced by the article this thread is about. But they don't hide themselves the way the deepstate does. They don't rename themselves every couple hundred years. They don't hide behind dozens of names to confuse anyone looking into them. They don't pretend to be some new group starting from the bottom. They simply remain the Roman Catholic Church, and always have.
To pose my own question(s). Does America's deepstate make America evil? If it does, is the solution to destroy our country and start a new one? Or to make every state its own country? Or is the solution to retake what is ours; to regain control of our country from the evil to put it back in the hands of the righteous patriots?
I think we should do the latter, and I think we should do it with the Church too.
The establishment of Islam does not hide neither. It does not change its name nor identity. You can't bring up different sects or followers of doctrine either because the Christian church is just as fragmented. But this fact that it doesn't hide its surface identity proves nothing of its merrit, nor does it absolve it of any of its sins.
It proves nothing alone, yes. That's why it's only supporting evidence, as I said.
Also, Islam is very clearly fake and gay, and clearly not of God. 2000 years of Catholics, the vast majority being good and upright people, is not the same. We can easily tell Islam is false, but with the RCC, there is a claim that they are the one true Church, and there is certainly evidence in favor of this, of which the Church still existing is but one piece for me.
So the fruits of the Church are generally good, while the fruits of Islam are generally bad. So I don't think they are really comparable as it relates to my point.
And the RCC is not fragmented. Just because people have fallen away from the Church and changed up doctrine, doesn't make it so.
Further, people splitting from the Church neither disproves it nor proves it, any more than a Protestant becoming a Catholic empirically proves anything.
And none are absolved of their sins but through the Grace of God. That's hardly an argument against the claims of the Church.
The Roman catholic church hides very very much. Way deep in its archives. Its like the Smithsonian on steroids. To fully awaken you must begin to question everything you were born and raised to believe. No stone unturned. There is much darkness hidden deep in the veils of the Catholic church. You just have to open your eyes and be willing to actually look.
I did; I became a Catholic after first becoming a Protestant.
In fact, I thought I had my eyes open, but now I believe they were covered by scales. Scales which melted away miraculously after reading a compelling argument in favor of the Church. Everything else clicked in from there.
As for the things they hide, I don't like it, and I pray God reveals that which is hidden when He deems it time to do so, but that hardly discounts the Church entirely. No man is sinless. The Church can be Christ's even if the individual members that make it up are sinful Men.
And to be clear, my point on "hiding" was related to their presentation of themselves. Obviously there are secrets, as the very article above shows, but they present themselves as the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They don't use 100 different names and hide in the shadows. And they are constantly attacked by the ones that do.
So while there are secrets, their doctrines, their claims, and their very name is not one of them. Meanwhile, the powers and principalities of our world change names like clothes, whether their personal names or the names of the organizations and secret societies they control.
The infiltration attempts over the last 2000 years have thus far failed, with this current one being the closest Satan has gotten.
There is no "other organization" when it relates to the Church, there is simply the Church that has existed in the same form for 2000 years.
If anything else were true, it's my claim that there wouldn't be a 2000-year-old Church. There'd be some nonsense that's 200–300 years old that split off some other, 300-500 year old nonsense, which itself was a combination of 3 other 500-700 year old groups. This is how the cabal operates, including all the way down to their own family names.
Name one institution as old as the Roman Catholic Church.
You can't, because the people behind the curtain make sure to constantly rename all the organizations they control, as well as change their own names, so that no one can catch on to them, or at least they hope.
Evil is deceptive, it hides. The Roman Catholic Church does not hide.
"Name one institution as old as the Roman Catholic Church." --> Zoroastrianism is much older
So, a near dead religion that hardly has any organized presence, if any?
I wouldn't say this is one of the originations or institutions that the deep state use in their operations, would you?
And as such they aren't behind, or in front of, the curtain; they aren't even in the building.
Dead?? Our Jesus is still very much alive in the Holy Eucharist! He is our hope and our treasure. The Deep State Corrupt Government doesn’t make conservative Christians bad and the Deep State Church doesn’t make the Catholic Church dead. God we praise You and thank you for Your protection of Your bride.
I was referring to Zoroastrianism, not Jesus or the Catholic Church.
My original point was pretty much that the Church has lived for 2000 years, which is a compelling reason for me to believe there is Truth behind it. So certainly the Church is not dead, nor is our Lord ;)
I would be careful to be dismissive. This is the world's oldest "religion". Also, be aware that Wikipedia has a vested interest in presenting it as dead.
I'm not arguing against you; I'm building on your initial point:
Track it's symbolism, how it's evolved, what it's integrated with. Sure, the initial, rigid interpretation of it (as stated by Wikipedia) may look pretty dead/dated, but there's a strong case to be made that slithered through the millenia and is heavily intertwined with modern Free Masonry and Luciferianism / Satanism. This potentially could be the "Whore of Babylon" in Revelations.
Variants appear to me to have infiltrated most powerful organizations; including the Vatican.
I could also be totally crazy and am known for tilting with windmills...
:)
Yea, I suppose I missed your meaning.
Interesting thought. I wouldn't be surprised if all the false religions were just variations of the same lie. And Satan being the father of lies, every false religion might as well just be its own flavor of Satanism anyway. And maybe they all trace back to this one beginning. The opposite of the original Judaism, which became Christianity.
Maybe Zoroastrianism became Satanism in the same way. A kind of revealing of the full truth of the religion. The same way Christ revealed the full truth of Judaism.
Christianity and Satanism are the fulfillment of Judaism and Zoroastrianism, respectively.
Or something...
Or maybe I'm nuts too, I don't know...
kek
Is your claim that the RCC isn't evil because it doesn't hide? Want to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying here.
Not exclusively for that reason, but I certainly see it as supporting evidence due to the fact it's a somewhat unique trait for an institution when contrasted with all the deepstate institutions and organizations.
And to be clear, by "hide" I'm referring to the fact they have existed in present form for their entire, well, existence. Obviously, they "hide" certain things, as evidenced by the article this thread is about. But they don't hide themselves the way the deepstate does. They don't rename themselves every couple hundred years. They don't hide behind dozens of names to confuse anyone looking into them. They don't pretend to be some new group starting from the bottom. They simply remain the Roman Catholic Church, and always have.
To pose my own question(s). Does America's deepstate make America evil? If it does, is the solution to destroy our country and start a new one? Or to make every state its own country? Or is the solution to retake what is ours; to regain control of our country from the evil to put it back in the hands of the righteous patriots?
I think we should do the latter, and I think we should do it with the Church too.
The establishment of Islam does not hide neither. It does not change its name nor identity. You can't bring up different sects or followers of doctrine either because the Christian church is just as fragmented. But this fact that it doesn't hide its surface identity proves nothing of its merrit, nor does it absolve it of any of its sins.
It proves nothing alone, yes. That's why it's only supporting evidence, as I said.
Also, Islam is very clearly fake and gay, and clearly not of God. 2000 years of Catholics, the vast majority being good and upright people, is not the same. We can easily tell Islam is false, but with the RCC, there is a claim that they are the one true Church, and there is certainly evidence in favor of this, of which the Church still existing is but one piece for me.
So the fruits of the Church are generally good, while the fruits of Islam are generally bad. So I don't think they are really comparable as it relates to my point.
And the RCC is not fragmented. Just because people have fallen away from the Church and changed up doctrine, doesn't make it so.
Further, people splitting from the Church neither disproves it nor proves it, any more than a Protestant becoming a Catholic empirically proves anything.
And none are absolved of their sins but through the Grace of God. That's hardly an argument against the claims of the Church.
The Roman catholic church hides very very much. Way deep in its archives. Its like the Smithsonian on steroids. To fully awaken you must begin to question everything you were born and raised to believe. No stone unturned. There is much darkness hidden deep in the veils of the Catholic church. You just have to open your eyes and be willing to actually look.
I did; I became a Catholic after first becoming a Protestant.
In fact, I thought I had my eyes open, but now I believe they were covered by scales. Scales which melted away miraculously after reading a compelling argument in favor of the Church. Everything else clicked in from there.
As for the things they hide, I don't like it, and I pray God reveals that which is hidden when He deems it time to do so, but that hardly discounts the Church entirely. No man is sinless. The Church can be Christ's even if the individual members that make it up are sinful Men.
And to be clear, my point on "hiding" was related to their presentation of themselves. Obviously there are secrets, as the very article above shows, but they present themselves as the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They don't use 100 different names and hide in the shadows. And they are constantly attacked by the ones that do.
So while there are secrets, their doctrines, their claims, and their very name is not one of them. Meanwhile, the powers and principalities of our world change names like clothes, whether their personal names or the names of the organizations and secret societies they control.
Some other organization set up church. Correct.
It was started by an individual.
The individual was Jesus Christ.
The infiltration attempts over the last 2000 years have thus far failed, with this current one being the closest Satan has gotten.
There is no "other organization" when it relates to the Church, there is simply the Church that has existed in the same form for 2000 years.
If anything else were true, it's my claim that there wouldn't be a 2000-year-old Church. There'd be some nonsense that's 200–300 years old that split off some other, 300-500 year old nonsense, which itself was a combination of 3 other 500-700 year old groups. This is how the cabal operates, including all the way down to their own family names.