Thinking that the FBI is a monolithic unified organization that perpetrates evil plans is very much like Arab hating the United States because "The United States created war in the Middle East".
I never said that, nor did I state that every single FBI agent is evil, which is what you seem to be implying I said.
It's the same as with any group of people (well, most); there are some good and some bad; hopefully more good than bad.
The good people of any group do bear some responsibility for allowing evil to happen / flourish in their organization.
What I actually said was that I believe that - as with virtually every single mass shooting over the past 20+ years - the FBI is 100% responsible for these acts.
I believe it is a relatively small group of evil people in the FBI who are behind stuff like this, but the problem is;
a) They are EXTREMELY sick & evil.
b) I believe the FBI has progressed to the point where evil people might very well significantly outnumber the good ones, or at the very least, the evil have effectively totally neutered the good people.
I know there are SOME good people in the FBI. That's not a question.
The problem is, I don't think anyone can honestly argue that the organization as a whole is good and serves its mission and the people of this country.
The REAL question is; why don't the good people do something about it?
Thanks for clarifying your thoughts on this. I guess I was implying that you are thinking of the FBI in those terms.
Personally, I find it hard to simply accept the idea that "the FBI" was behind the establishment of kwaanza almost 60 years ago by Maulana Karenga because he had 'ties to the FBI'.
I think that's a pretty big leap, myself. If there is clear evidence, or even a significant body of circumstantial evidence, I'd consider it.
You cite mass shootings over the past 20+ years. That's a significantly shorter time frame than 60 years. So, is the assertion that the FBI of 60 years ago was in the same state and condition and equally controlled by the same forces that it is today? That seems to be the implication of your statement.
But as I said, thanks for sharing your thoughts (and beliefs) about this. However, I find such remarks as "the FBI is 100% behind this" to be rather flippant, from where I sit. You may be right, but I'll happily play devil's avocado and question your reasoning!
I mean; my theory isn’t a hill to die on. It’s just not the first time that I heard it said that “white FBI Agents invented Kwanzaa” so apparently others have their own suspicions too.
As for the mass shootings; all of my comments regarding that & my suspicion that the FBI is behind them;
You have a point re: last 20/60 years.
I’ll bet the FBI is behind all of them, period. I said “the last 20 years” because I thought “mass shootings” - like Vegas, etc - were extremely rare over 20 years ago. They seem to have become a lot more common over the past ~20-30 years, concurrent with the drastic rise of the police & surveillance state, serious efforts at the state & federal level to drastically curtail gun ownership, known major targeting of certain conservative groups by major govt. agencies - IRS & Tea Party, etc.
The basis for my suspicion is; the alleged perpetrator of virtually every single mass shooting has had the following things said about them by the media;
They were “known to the FBI”
The FBI investigated them & “found no reason for concern / to follow up”
The FBI received MULTIPLE tips about the shooter, but - “oops” - dropped the ball & failed to follow up / follow thru.
Virtually every single one.
I could be wrong, but I just look at patterns & do not believe in coincidences…At all.
I appreciate the dialogue and certainly appreciate my views being questioned - it’s How we learn. :-)
We are all frens here, aren’t we??
It is incredibly sad & disgusting that I could even have thoughts like these - a serious suspicion / strong belief that a government agency routinely violently murders its citizens - but that’s the state of today’s world. That’s who we have come to learn lords over us.
Welcome & thank YOU!
Your other reply was long; I'm going to take a bit to digest & reply. :-)
And yes; I don't really understand people who almost instantly get SO EMOTIONAL when they encounter ANYTHING that runs contrary to their beliefs / opinions / habits / customs, no matter how asinine / trivial.
I'm not sure if that is a desired outcome of the various forms of PSYOPS all governments & the global elite have been running on us, or what.....but it's awful. Horrific.
What do YOU think, actually? That is an interesting question now that I think about it.... Has this behavior been engineered? I think very likely yes...... what better way to destroy society than make everyone intolerant of anything & everything.
I can listen to dissenting opinions all day long, no matter what they are, but what gets me pissed is when the other person refuses to give me a good hearing and/or if they get nasty, mean & emotional at me.
Indeed they are:
I never said that, nor did I state that every single FBI agent is evil, which is what you seem to be implying I said.
It's the same as with any group of people (well, most); there are some good and some bad; hopefully more good than bad.
The good people of any group do bear some responsibility for allowing evil to happen / flourish in their organization.
What I actually said was that I believe that - as with virtually every single mass shooting over the past 20+ years - the FBI is 100% responsible for these acts.
I believe it is a relatively small group of evil people in the FBI who are behind stuff like this, but the problem is;
a) They are EXTREMELY sick & evil.
b) I believe the FBI has progressed to the point where evil people might very well significantly outnumber the good ones, or at the very least, the evil have effectively totally neutered the good people.
I know there are SOME good people in the FBI. That's not a question.
The problem is, I don't think anyone can honestly argue that the organization as a whole is good and serves its mission and the people of this country.
The REAL question is; why don't the good people do something about it?
Thanks for clarifying your thoughts on this. I guess I was implying that you are thinking of the FBI in those terms.
Personally, I find it hard to simply accept the idea that "the FBI" was behind the establishment of kwaanza almost 60 years ago by Maulana Karenga because he had 'ties to the FBI'.
I think that's a pretty big leap, myself. If there is clear evidence, or even a significant body of circumstantial evidence, I'd consider it.
You cite mass shootings over the past 20+ years. That's a significantly shorter time frame than 60 years. So, is the assertion that the FBI of 60 years ago was in the same state and condition and equally controlled by the same forces that it is today? That seems to be the implication of your statement.
But as I said, thanks for sharing your thoughts (and beliefs) about this. However, I find such remarks as "the FBI is 100% behind this" to be rather flippant, from where I sit. You may be right, but I'll happily play devil's avocado and question your reasoning!
I mean; my theory isn’t a hill to die on. It’s just not the first time that I heard it said that “white FBI Agents invented Kwanzaa” so apparently others have their own suspicions too.
As for the mass shootings; all of my comments regarding that & my suspicion that the FBI is behind them;
The basis for my suspicion is; the alleged perpetrator of virtually every single mass shooting has had the following things said about them by the media;
Virtually every single one.
I could be wrong, but I just look at patterns & do not believe in coincidences…At all.
I appreciate the dialogue and certainly appreciate my views being questioned - it’s How we learn. :-)
We are all frens here, aren’t we??
It is incredibly sad & disgusting that I could even have thoughts like these - a serious suspicion / strong belief that a government agency routinely violently murders its citizens - but that’s the state of today’s world. That’s who we have come to learn lords over us.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.
Discussion is good when we engage with an open mind and willingness to question ourselves and our own hypotheses, etc.
Thanks again.
Welcome & thank YOU! Your other reply was long; I'm going to take a bit to digest & reply. :-)
And yes; I don't really understand people who almost instantly get SO EMOTIONAL when they encounter ANYTHING that runs contrary to their beliefs / opinions / habits / customs, no matter how asinine / trivial.
I'm not sure if that is a desired outcome of the various forms of PSYOPS all governments & the global elite have been running on us, or what.....but it's awful. Horrific.
What do YOU think, actually? That is an interesting question now that I think about it.... Has this behavior been engineered? I think very likely yes...... what better way to destroy society than make everyone intolerant of anything & everything.
I can listen to dissenting opinions all day long, no matter what they are, but what gets me pissed is when the other person refuses to give me a good hearing and/or if they get nasty, mean & emotional at me.
Basically like most toddlers. LOL
Thanks fren. :-)