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posted 2 years ago by Cantaloupe 2 years ago by Cantaloupe +30 / -0
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– Revodude 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

They believe that this whole freedom and democracy thing a fad. They want to go back to feudalism.

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– Numina23 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Like the Tower of Babel?? Huh??? Weaken the west?? I don't think there is anykind of relation between the Tower of Babel and the west, weakened or not.

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– Sadness 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I think you miss the point. The story is a parable, and so one needs to interpret it,

The Tower of Babel was an attempt to make a tower so tall that it could reach heaven. So, it is a reflection of man getting too big for his boots, and thinking they can challenge God. The end of the story is: God made it so confusing with many crews speaking so many different languages that they could not talk to each other anymore and the project failed.

(Reminds me of a recent encounter with a Chinese man on a building site who could not speak a word of English - and his work was atrocious but he had a message from his boss in China on his phone - no use trying to explain that steps need to be of even height).

the Similarity is that West as an imperialist project, is one that is stupendous and reaching for 'heaven' in its global goal. The project is impoverishing non-Western nations all around the world, so naturally people from everywhere want to go ahead and move to the West. The result is a mish-mash of cultures, and the multitude of languages spoken in one city, even, heralds the beginning of the end.

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– FullAmpleSally 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Eh that’s a massive reach but oh well. Overall not important, just weird when people associate things to try and make them “Biblical!”.

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– Sadness 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

LOL. One may consider a casual reference to a Biblical 'meme' to be a massive reach, but that is how stories in the Bible work. In the end, it isn't even important to her argument, but Noor is an educated person, and is likely to color her speech so. One recognizes patterns, just as people here do for the contemporary Q drops.

For example, did you know that when women show their feet in those Biblical stories, it is a euphemism for sex? Likely the stories were 'watered down' over the millennia, for sensitive ears - who knows.

So the story of Ruth is about an immigrant widow picking up single stalks of grain in a field and then sleeping with the landowner (shock, she only took her shoes off, honest) and THEN marrying him, who becomes the grandmother of one of the greatest Kings. Imagine the outrage at pre-marital sex with a widow, and then allowing her to remain and become the King's grandmother! Scandalous.

It can be interpreted, initially, as the need for humility, and accepting strangers into the fold. But once one realizes the full extent of what happened, there is much more nuance.

It is just a good idea to re-evaluate those stories and when one sees a similarity to current events, and it helps us understand how coding works.

Nevermind.

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