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I guess to refine my question it would be does God know specific people before they are born because He creates them with a purpose, while others are just born as a "blank slate" (thinking of things like babies out of wedlock, people such as cain, etc)
I wanted to tell someone who's feeling down that God wanted them specifically but don't want to use false doctrine that has no scriptures relevant to it
This is the thought of God's sovereignty vs our free will. How do we have free will if God knows all. How does God know all if we have free will. It's a round and round thought that truly can't be settled with our understanding because we are using a limited understanding and God is outside that. God is so awesome that he has sovereignty as well as gives us free will.
My response is that God yes has a purpose for each of us and he will through his grace and mercy set us on paths that will fulfill his purpose yet in a way that makes us have free will to choose it. No there are no blank slates because God knows all. Yet he loves us so much that we have free will to reject what he picks for us. In a way that we don't feel like robots. It's a fascinating topic honestly..
You can absolutely tell someone God wants them. God desires that all his creations draws close to him, yet his love is so pure and awesome that he provides ways for us not to if we decide not to.
Hope I'm some what answering the question. Please feel free to keep refining the thought of I'm not. This is truly an amazing dialogue because if forces us to realize that we can't really know the ways of God fully. Yet we can seek to know him deeply. And he will reveal himself to us deeply. :)
Yea, it's mind-boggling to be honest. Do you know of any more verses that address the topic aside from Jeremiah and the first one you sent? I might just send them all instead of trying to discuss it with my own words, they will most likely drag me down a logic path I'm not ready for lol. Inquiring minds
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. Psalm 139:13
Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. Psalm 139:16
You have searched me, LORD, and you know me. Psalm 139:1
You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from afar. Psalm 139:2
You discern my going out and my lying down; you are familiar with all my ways. Psalm 139:3
Before a word is on my tongue you, LORD, know it completely. Psalm 139:4
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. Psalm 139:14
Here are a couple. Though I would still try to use your own words.
If someone doesn't wanna know God, we can't change there mind. Don't be afraid to be wrong. It's ok to admit to the you don't know everything. So if they go down a logic trail it's ok to say give me a little and pray on it or ask others, or look in scripture. It can be a process. Keep at it. You might just be there to plant seeds. We don't always get to see the fruit
THANK YOU! Awesome