Welcome to General Chat - GAW Community Area
This General Chat area started off as a place for people to talk about things that are off topic, however it has quickly evolved into a community and has become an integral part of the GAW experience for many of us.
Based on its evolving needs and plenty of user feedback, we are trying to bring some order and institute some rules. Please make sure you read these rules and participate in the spirit of this community.
Rules for General Chat
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Be respectful to each other. This is of utmost importance, and comments may be removed if deemed not respectful.
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Avoid long drawn out arguments. This should be a place to relax, not to waste your time needlessly.
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Personal anecdotes, puzzles, cute pics/clips - everything welcome
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Please do not spam at the top level. If you have a lot to post each day, try and post them all together in one top level comment
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Try keep things light. If you are bringing in deep stuff, try not to go overboard.
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Things that are clearly on-topic for this board should be posted as a separate post and not here (except if you are new and still getting the feel of this place)
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If you find people violating these rules, deport them rather than start a argument here.
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Feel free to give feedback as these rules are expected to keep evoloving
In short, imagine this thread to be a local community hall where we all gather and chat daily. Please be respectful to others in the same way
You can prove that you’re not being paid to promote the message of “no side effects of actual mRNA injections”? Well, you can’t prove a negative, but please amuse us with the attempt. Besides,, a shill’s reward isn’t always monetary. Maybe your reward is totally abstract, such as the comforting feeling of rationalizing your decision to take something with negative risks but no positive benefits. Maybe you’re only a “corporate” shill in the sense that your rationalization runs parallel to the interests of the corporation whose products you received.
Pretty funny that I’m not previously familiar with your username and I’m not the first GAW user to figure you out.
It’s not really that funny. Accusing someone of being a shill is a common response on this site when a person shares an unpopular stance. It has nothing to do with me, only what I wrote and how you feel about it.
Basically, I’m calling you out on the fact that you’re assuming that I’m only shilling, and not being honest with you, just because I’m sharing something that you don’t agree with.
I’m offering to give you whatever proof you need that I’m being frank with you, and I don’t know what that is yet. You would have to tell me, because I don’t inherently know what your needs are. Do you have anything that would suffice?
In the past, I’ve gone on WhatsApp/discord with others to have a more frank, casual discussion where we can talk more at ease. Dunno if that’s what you’d be comfortable with though.
Well, I thought you were offering to prove that you’re not being paid money to spread a certain message, but it seems that’s not what you intended. If you want to prove that you’re trying to be honest, that’s ok, don’t worry about it. The phenomenal thing about a rationalization is that the rationalizer can believe it’s the truth. No thanks on the chat. Best of luck to you.
No that’s specifically what I was offering. It was a way to show my honesty and in turn help prove what I’m saying. If you’d like I can show my bank records, but normally people don’t have a way that the other person can disprove it. It’s an easy claim to make as a way to disregard the other’s stance
But yeah, that’s normally how people react. You can have an honest discussion without resorting to some petty “shill” call. Why is it so hard to believe that I'm being sincere?
Shilling doesn’t necessarily have to be insincere. A shill might truly believe in the product he’s promoting. The connotation of insincerity comes from the old snake oil tactic of covertly inserting an associate into the crowd to interject his seemingly impartial testimony about the snake oil. That’s not the situation as much nowadays. Kelce might be dumb enough to think truly that Pfizer’s mRNA product is good. He’s still a shill.
If it helps, I’ll apologize for having you think I was accusing you of being insincere. I’ll make a deal with you. Let me first define the shorthand “actual mRNA” as being an mRNA gene editing product that was manufactured as intended, and from production to injection was kept at the right temperature and otherwise maintained and administered properly. So if you’re open minded that seemingly vaxxed people with no adverse effects might not have gotten “actual mRNA”, then I’ll be open minded about the possibility that someone who took “actual mRNA” might not have suffered adverse effects. Like you said, it’s hard to tell who got what. People have different bodies that react differently or that might not react at all.
I’ll maintain that it’s still not a “good” product because it carries risk with no reward, and the best a user can hope for is a neutral effect such as nothing happening.