I’m going to have to respectively disagree with you here, fren.
While Blavatsky's teachings are open to various interpretations, she did express views that suggest a significant difference between her understanding of Jesus and the traditional Christian perspective:
"The Christ that is in me is not the Jesus of the Church." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
"The 'Son of Mary,' as a man, is the personal property of the Christians, but the 'Christ' is the 'Son of God,' the common property of every Initiate." - Helena Blavatsky, "Isis Unveiled"
"The Christ of the Churches is but a puny imitation of the Grand Ideal of the Inner God in man." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
"It is not Jesus, the man of Nazareth, but what he is generally taken for [God in the flesh], that we quarrel with." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
“The ‘Church’ is ever ready to sell her birthright of divine truth for the mess of pottage of human dogma.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Key to Theosophy”
“The ‘Christ principle’ is universal and eternal, and the ‘Son of God’ but one of its various manifestations.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine”
“The ‘Christ-spirit’ is always seeking to incarnate in humanity and to express itself through the instrumentality of a purified and regenerated people.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine”
These quotes suggest that while Blavatsky acknowledged Jesus as an important spiritual figure, she saw him in a significantly different light from the traditional Christian view, emphasizing a more symbolic or universal interpretation of his teachings and role. To put it plainly, she viewed him as an ascended master.
This is the New Age occult/Gnostic teachings that are entirely incompatible with Historical Orthodox Christianity.
From a former Christian’s point of view who happens to reconcile with your conclusion about who Christ was/is traditionally and the “New Age” teachings?
-Vatican is controlled by and worship malevolent extraterrestrials pretending to be God/s
-Church tells people that ALL extraterrestrials are Satanic/Demonic.
Question: Who/what are Christians truly worshiping, believing as their Savior?
I am trying to present the information(s) in the link to layperson with none to rudimentary background in religion, can and will you make any suggestion(s) to make it easier to understand so it is not “wanting”. From your response it looks like you have a deeper/better concept of the background information about Christ/Christianity.
This is a well meaning comment and request. Thank you.
Seems like the majority of your diatribes are pointed at the Catholic Church. You might not find much disagreement with me on that issue. But you do make some claims without any supporting evidence that appear to be foundational for much of your position on the formation of the biblical cannon. Let's discuss some of those.
Jesus (Christianity) is created by the Vatican
Hopefully you're not implying that Jesus didn't even exist here, are you?
Also, Christianity existed long before the Catholic Church or Councils did. So it appears you have the cart before the horse here.
The early Christian community already had a high view of Jesus divinity long before the Councils came around. Even according to your own research the Muratorian Canon which is dated roughly around 170AD shows the high view of Jesus' divinity already in existence.
In the Muratorian Canon, Jesus is repeatedly referred to as “Lord” (Romans 10:9; Acts 2:36; Jude 17) and is equated with God (John 1:1–3; 20:28; Philippians 2:6–8). He took on human flesh (John 1:14; 1 John 4:2), died in the place of sinners (1 Corinthians 15:3), and was soon raised bodily from the dead (Luke 24:36–40; Acts 1:3; 2:24–35; 1 Corinthians 15:4). A person can find forgiveness of sins only through faith in Him (John 6:47; Acts 13:38–39; Galatians 2:15–16).
These central doctrines represented Christian orthodoxy for the early (before the major Councils) church. The existence of the Muratorian Canon demonstrates that, well before the New Testament canon was officially recognized, early Christians already had access to authoritative documents carrying apostolic authority. It was from these apostolic books and letters that the early believers derived their central beliefs about the person and atoning work of Jesus Christ.
So your assertion that the Catholic Church created and was responsible for the deification of Jesus kind of falls on its face right at the start.
“The Bible was constructed by the same bloodline families that founded the Illuminati.
What is your source for this outlandish claim? Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - and don't simply point to your 656 page PDF as your "evidence." Give us some concrete evidence.
While this article is very insightful, I think the author misses a vital distinction:
Black magicians vs. White Magicians.
Alice Bailey was influenced by Blavatsky's teachings (whom the article discusses at length) and was involved in the Theosophical Society for a time. Blavatsky was one of the founders of the Theosophical Society in 1875 and is considered a key figure in the development of modern Theosophy. Her writings, including "The Secret Doctrine" and "Isis Unveiled," were foundational texts for the Theosophical movement.
Bailey, on the other hand, came into contact with Theosophy later in her life and was initially critical of some aspects of Blavatsky's teachings. However, Bailey's work later diverged from traditional Theosophy, and she founded her own spiritual movement, focusing on what she called the "Ageless Wisdom" teachings.
While Bailey's teachings share some similarities with Theosophy, particularly in their emphasis on esoteric knowledge and spiritual evolution, she developed her own distinct body of work and did not consider herself a successor to Blavatsky. Bailey's teachings have had a significant impact on the New Age movement and other spiritual traditions, but they represent a separate stream of thought from traditional Theosophy.
In Alice Bailey's teachings, the concept of white and black magicians is used to illustrate the spiritual polarity and ethical choices that individuals face on the path of awakening and spiritual evolution.
White magicians (White Hats), in Bailey's terminology, are those who use their spiritual knowledge and power for the benefit of humanity and the greater good. They seek to align themselves with the divine will and work towards the upliftment and enlightenment of themselves and others (these are the leaders of the Great Awakening/Truther Movement etc..)
On the other hand, black magicians (Black Hats) are depicted as individuals who misuse their spiritual knowledge and power for selfish or malevolent purposes. They may seek personal gain, control over others, or the manipulation of spiritual forces for destructive ends (these are the Globalists).
For Bailey, the awakening process involves recognizing and choosing to align oneself with the principles of light and goodness, thereby becoming a white magician in service to humanity and the divine plan. This entails cultivating virtues such as love, compassion, and selflessness while actively working to overcome egoic desires and tendencies.
By contrast, those who continue to indulge in selfishness and manipulation, seeking power and control over others, are seen as aligning themselves with the forces of darkness and becoming black magicians.
Yo know who has aligned themselves with the Theosophical Society and it's teachings?
General Michael Flynn
Flynn has been associated with the concept of the "Seven Rays," which is a Theosophical and esoteric belief system that posits seven metaphysical principles or energies that are said to influence all life and consciousness. The concept is rooted in the teachings of Theosophy, as expounded by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, and further developed by later Theosophists such as Alice Bailey.
In a tweet from July 2016, Flynn shared a photo of a book titled "The Seven Rays of Life" by Alice A. Bailey, with the caption, "Love this. Thank you for sharing. #ABookForThoseWhoSeek."
Flynn also quoted a Theosophical prayer in a tweet on July 4, 2020. The tweet included a photo of a family praying with the text of the prayer superimposed over the image. The prayer reads:
"Breath of the Divine, Creator God, Source of all that is:
Breathe into us the Holy Spirit, that our thoughts
may be holy. Move in our hearts, that we may love
only what is holy. Strengthen our bodies, that they
may also be the temple of the Holy Spirit.
Guide us in our work, that we may do it only for
the love of Thee, and in the service of Thy creation.
Amen."
This prayer reflects a Theosophical perspective with its emphasis on the divine presence within all things and the call for spiritual guidance and alignment with divine will.
Furthermore, General Flynn during a speech in a Christian church, where he let unaware Christians chant channeled material from Elizabeth Clare Prophet's 'Pearls of wisdom' which she claims to have received from "archangel Michael". New age & Occult. Doctrines of demons. False light. Listen here.
Knowledge by itself is not good or evil, but evil thrives when people start to worship knowledge to the detriment of everything else. The application of knowledge without wisdom and moral discipline is dangerous.
Agreed. Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to add tomatoes to a fruit salad.
It is a cult. What would a cult claim to be? A religion and mock Christians as a cultist.
When Jesus rebuked evil, was he biased? Was Jesus a homophobic person? Did he have no compassion to the evil?
Jesus washed peoples feet. He served people but was He a jerk to evil? Did the Sadducees and Pharisees think Jesus was inconsiderate to their feelings?
Did Jesus care about feelings? He said to be -wise- as serpents and harmless as doves.
Does worshipping knowledge interfere with wisdom?
Can we get a degree in wisdom from an accredited college? Who defines wisdom?
We should learn, but when we learn something that is exciting to us, is it exciting to Him? However to greatest gift we have is free will and in the USA we have the ability to babble to those who believe they are the all knowing. They hate us babbling too.
They worship a literal loser. The battle has already been fought, and their guy blew it. He lost. He's ugly too.
Excellent article!!
I’m going to have to respectively disagree with you here, fren.
While Blavatsky's teachings are open to various interpretations, she did express views that suggest a significant difference between her understanding of Jesus and the traditional Christian perspective:
"The Christ that is in me is not the Jesus of the Church." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
"The 'Son of Mary,' as a man, is the personal property of the Christians, but the 'Christ' is the 'Son of God,' the common property of every Initiate." - Helena Blavatsky, "Isis Unveiled"
"The Christ of the Churches is but a puny imitation of the Grand Ideal of the Inner God in man." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
"It is not Jesus, the man of Nazareth, but what he is generally taken for [God in the flesh], that we quarrel with." - Helena Blavatsky, "The Secret Doctrine"
“The ‘Church’ is ever ready to sell her birthright of divine truth for the mess of pottage of human dogma.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Key to Theosophy”
“The ‘Christ principle’ is universal and eternal, and the ‘Son of God’ but one of its various manifestations.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine”
“The ‘Christ-spirit’ is always seeking to incarnate in humanity and to express itself through the instrumentality of a purified and regenerated people.” - Helena Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine”
These quotes suggest that while Blavatsky acknowledged Jesus as an important spiritual figure, she saw him in a significantly different light from the traditional Christian view, emphasizing a more symbolic or universal interpretation of his teachings and role. To put it plainly, she viewed him as an ascended master.
This is the New Age occult/Gnostic teachings that are entirely incompatible with Historical Orthodox Christianity.
From a former Christian’s point of view who happens to reconcile with your conclusion about who Christ was/is traditionally and the “New Age” teachings?
The link below points out a layperson overview on the origins of Christianity - the processes how this came about thru the “bishops”/apostolic succession etc. https://greatawakening.win/p/17sP1rNxpr/house-of-godthose-who-you-trust-/c/
Everything in that link has been throughly dealt with and left wanting.
Anywhere specific you’d like to start?
Summary:
-Christians believe in Jesus,
-Jesus (Christianity) is created by the Vatican,
-Vatican is controlled by and worship malevolent extraterrestrials pretending to be God/s
-Church tells people that ALL extraterrestrials are Satanic/Demonic.
Question: Who/what are Christians truly worshiping, believing as their Savior?
I am trying to present the information(s) in the link to layperson with none to rudimentary background in religion, can and will you make any suggestion(s) to make it easier to understand so it is not “wanting”. From your response it looks like you have a deeper/better concept of the background information about Christ/Christianity.
This is a well meaning comment and request. Thank you.
Seems like the majority of your diatribes are pointed at the Catholic Church. You might not find much disagreement with me on that issue. But you do make some claims without any supporting evidence that appear to be foundational for much of your position on the formation of the biblical cannon. Let's discuss some of those.
Hopefully you're not implying that Jesus didn't even exist here, are you?
Also, Christianity existed long before the Catholic Church or Councils did. So it appears you have the cart before the horse here.
The early Christian community already had a high view of Jesus divinity long before the Councils came around. Even according to your own research the Muratorian Canon which is dated roughly around 170AD shows the high view of Jesus' divinity already in existence.
In the Muratorian Canon, Jesus is repeatedly referred to as “Lord” (Romans 10:9; Acts 2:36; Jude 17) and is equated with God (John 1:1–3; 20:28; Philippians 2:6–8). He took on human flesh (John 1:14; 1 John 4:2), died in the place of sinners (1 Corinthians 15:3), and was soon raised bodily from the dead (Luke 24:36–40; Acts 1:3; 2:24–35; 1 Corinthians 15:4). A person can find forgiveness of sins only through faith in Him (John 6:47; Acts 13:38–39; Galatians 2:15–16).
These central doctrines represented Christian orthodoxy for the early (before the major Councils) church. The existence of the Muratorian Canon demonstrates that, well before the New Testament canon was officially recognized, early Christians already had access to authoritative documents carrying apostolic authority. It was from these apostolic books and letters that the early believers derived their central beliefs about the person and atoning work of Jesus Christ.
So your assertion that the Catholic Church created and was responsible for the deification of Jesus kind of falls on its face right at the start.
What is your source for this outlandish claim? Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - and don't simply point to your 656 page PDF as your "evidence." Give us some concrete evidence.
Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, the Son of God. Yes, He is all about simple people.
While this article is very insightful, I think the author misses a vital distinction:
Black magicians vs. White Magicians.
Alice Bailey was influenced by Blavatsky's teachings (whom the article discusses at length) and was involved in the Theosophical Society for a time. Blavatsky was one of the founders of the Theosophical Society in 1875 and is considered a key figure in the development of modern Theosophy. Her writings, including "The Secret Doctrine" and "Isis Unveiled," were foundational texts for the Theosophical movement.
Bailey, on the other hand, came into contact with Theosophy later in her life and was initially critical of some aspects of Blavatsky's teachings. However, Bailey's work later diverged from traditional Theosophy, and she founded her own spiritual movement, focusing on what she called the "Ageless Wisdom" teachings.
While Bailey's teachings share some similarities with Theosophy, particularly in their emphasis on esoteric knowledge and spiritual evolution, she developed her own distinct body of work and did not consider herself a successor to Blavatsky. Bailey's teachings have had a significant impact on the New Age movement and other spiritual traditions, but they represent a separate stream of thought from traditional Theosophy.
In Alice Bailey's teachings, the concept of white and black magicians is used to illustrate the spiritual polarity and ethical choices that individuals face on the path of awakening and spiritual evolution.
White magicians (White Hats), in Bailey's terminology, are those who use their spiritual knowledge and power for the benefit of humanity and the greater good. They seek to align themselves with the divine will and work towards the upliftment and enlightenment of themselves and others (these are the leaders of the Great Awakening/Truther Movement etc..)
On the other hand, black magicians (Black Hats) are depicted as individuals who misuse their spiritual knowledge and power for selfish or malevolent purposes. They may seek personal gain, control over others, or the manipulation of spiritual forces for destructive ends (these are the Globalists).
For Bailey, the awakening process involves recognizing and choosing to align oneself with the principles of light and goodness, thereby becoming a white magician in service to humanity and the divine plan. This entails cultivating virtues such as love, compassion, and selflessness while actively working to overcome egoic desires and tendencies.
By contrast, those who continue to indulge in selfishness and manipulation, seeking power and control over others, are seen as aligning themselves with the forces of darkness and becoming black magicians.
Yo know who has aligned themselves with the Theosophical Society and it's teachings?
General Michael Flynn
Flynn has been associated with the concept of the "Seven Rays," which is a Theosophical and esoteric belief system that posits seven metaphysical principles or energies that are said to influence all life and consciousness. The concept is rooted in the teachings of Theosophy, as expounded by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, and further developed by later Theosophists such as Alice Bailey.
In a tweet from July 2016, Flynn shared a photo of a book titled "The Seven Rays of Life" by Alice A. Bailey, with the caption, "Love this. Thank you for sharing. #ABookForThoseWhoSeek."
Flynn also quoted a Theosophical prayer in a tweet on July 4, 2020. The tweet included a photo of a family praying with the text of the prayer superimposed over the image. The prayer reads:
This prayer reflects a Theosophical perspective with its emphasis on the divine presence within all things and the call for spiritual guidance and alignment with divine will.
Furthermore, General Flynn during a speech in a Christian church, where he let unaware Christians chant channeled material from Elizabeth Clare Prophet's 'Pearls of wisdom' which she claims to have received from "archangel Michael". New age & Occult. Doctrines of demons. False light. Listen here.
Aligned with or calling attention to?
What do you mean, fren?
Chilling....😑
Agreed. Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to add tomatoes to a fruit salad.
It is a cult. What would a cult claim to be? A religion and mock Christians as a cultist.
When Jesus rebuked evil, was he biased? Was Jesus a homophobic person? Did he have no compassion to the evil?
Jesus washed peoples feet. He served people but was He a jerk to evil? Did the Sadducees and Pharisees think Jesus was inconsiderate to their feelings?
Did Jesus care about feelings? He said to be -wise- as serpents and harmless as doves.
Does worshipping knowledge interfere with wisdom?
Can we get a degree in wisdom from an accredited college? Who defines wisdom?
We should learn, but when we learn something that is exciting to us, is it exciting to Him? However to greatest gift we have is free will and in the USA we have the ability to babble to those who believe they are the all knowing. They hate us babbling too.