Dim / demon dems destroy their own cities, will NOT let their own police do what they are supposed to do, and now want our troops to bail them out?!? They do not have the political will to make their own cities safe for their own citizens, but now demand MILITARY FORCE?!?
That is not what they signed up for! MPs may be qualified, but not combat troops or even support troops.
We have civilian police for a reason. We do not want / need military involved in civil law enforcement, what about the Posse Comitatus Act (1878)?
It is like the left WANTS military control that they can order around. Why don't they use their own police forces?? Why destroy their own cities, and then order in military forces under their control?!? The police were already under their control!!
It is clear our Founding Fathers did not believe in Marshal Law. It goes directly against liberty and freedom.
“Why suspend the habeas corpus in insurrections and rebellions? Examine the history of England. See how few of the cases of the suspension of the habeas corpus law have been worthy of that suspension. They have been either real treasons, wherein the parties might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots, where it was shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the few cases wherein the suspension of the habeas corpus has done real good, that operation is now become habitual and the minds of the nation almost prepared to live under its constant suspension.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
letter to James Madison, 1788
“But what is tyranny? Or how can a free people be deprived of their liberties? Tyranny is the exercise of some power over a man, which is not warranted by law, or necessary for the public safety. A people can never be deprived of their liberties, while they retain in their own hands, a power sufficient to any other power in the state.” ~ Noah Webster (1758-1843) American patriot and scholar, author of the first dictionary of American English usage (1806) and the author of the 1828 edition of the dictionary that bears his name.
An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 42-43, (1787)
“It is my belief that there are “absolutes” in our Bill of Rights, and that they were put there on purpose by men who knew what the words meant and meant their prohibitions to be "absolutes.” ~ Justice Hugo L. Black (1886-1971) US Supreme Court Justice
“Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” ~ Tench Coxe (1755-1824) American political economist
Writing as "A Pennsylvanian," in "Remarks On The First Part Of The Amendments To The Federal Constitution,"
in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, p.2 col.1
“The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government, within the Constitution, has all the powers granted to it, which are necessary to preserve its existence; as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority.” ~ Justice David Davis (1815-1886) U.S. Supreme Court Justice 1862-1877
Ex parte Milligan 71 U.S. 2 (1866) DAVIS, J., Opinion of the Court
“The framers of the constitution knew human nature as well as we do. They too had lived in dangerous days; they too knew the suffocating influence of orthodoxy and standardized thought. They weighed the compulsions for restrained speech and thought against the abuses of liberty. They chose liberty.” ~ Justice William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice
Beauharnais v.Illinois, 342 U.S. 250, 287 (1952)
“Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency.” ~ Justice Charles Evans Hughes (1862-1948) Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
You are incorrect about Military Police. I was a Combat MP, and can tell you that unless there was a drastic change, Military Police are classified as Combat Support. My units mission (109th MP Company) in the 1980's in Germany was to engage the Spetsnaz if we went to war. Peace-time mission was: Protect V-Corps HQ, Protect V-Corps Commander, and Counter-Terrorist Operations. In the Persian Gulf War, we had several missions: Route Reconnaissance, Supply Line Protection, Convoy Protection, EPW Operations, Counter-Terrorist / Counter-Insurgency Operations, Secure Khobar Towers (never got blown up under our protection), Rear Area Security, U.S. Customs, and law and Order, to name a few.
A Combat MP Company had a TO&E very similar to an Cavalry Scout Platoon of the same era, but without the M3 Bradley: MK19's, 50-Cals, M60's, M203's, Unarmored HUMVEE's (Armored Hummer's didn't happen until the mid to late 2000's), etc.
Army MP's have seen plenty of combat in WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf War, Iraq 2003+, and Afghanistan. Again, not all MP Units are Combat Support, there are also Garrison MP's, Physical Security / Nuclear Physical Security "Tower Rat" MP's, Corrections MP's, etc.
The Posse Comitatus Act has never been challenged. Moreover, it is one branch of government imposing limits on another branch, so it's unconstitutional on its face without amending the constitution.
The PCA follows the spirit of the Constitution if not the letter. Ill have to do some digging when I have time but the Framers thought a national police force a bad thing and were dead set against the quartering of troops.
Maybe Ill do a post next weekend. I have a long work week ahead. Its warming up in Michigan (still can be wintery as the inch of snow I woke up to will attest) and homeowners are clamoring for driveways that have been held over due to winter.
Dim / demon dems destroy their own cities, will NOT let their own police do what they are supposed to do, and now want our troops to bail them out?!? They do not have the political will to make their own cities safe for their own citizens, but now demand MILITARY FORCE?!?
That is not what they signed up for! MPs may be qualified, but not combat troops or even support troops.
We have civilian police for a reason. We do not want / need military involved in civil law enforcement, what about the Posse Comitatus Act (1878)?
It is like the left WANTS military control that they can order around. Why don't they use their own police forces?? Why destroy their own cities, and then order in military forces under their control?!? The police were already under their control!!
Something is very weird here, very off.
OK but they have arrested professional shoplifters only to see them let off the next day.
This all denies civilized logic, the dem demons are intent on destroying civilization.
A video says hezbollah is in calif. And less than an hour from los angeles or somewhere about there.
As I said above, I think the Insurrection Act was signed by Trump on J6 and we have been under limited martial law since that day.
It is clear our Founding Fathers did not believe in Marshal Law. It goes directly against liberty and freedom.
“Why suspend the habeas corpus in insurrections and rebellions? Examine the history of England. See how few of the cases of the suspension of the habeas corpus law have been worthy of that suspension. They have been either real treasons, wherein the parties might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots, where it was shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the few cases wherein the suspension of the habeas corpus has done real good, that operation is now become habitual and the minds of the nation almost prepared to live under its constant suspension.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President letter to James Madison, 1788
“But what is tyranny? Or how can a free people be deprived of their liberties? Tyranny is the exercise of some power over a man, which is not warranted by law, or necessary for the public safety. A people can never be deprived of their liberties, while they retain in their own hands, a power sufficient to any other power in the state.” ~ Noah Webster (1758-1843) American patriot and scholar, author of the first dictionary of American English usage (1806) and the author of the 1828 edition of the dictionary that bears his name. An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, 42-43, (1787)
“It is my belief that there are “absolutes” in our Bill of Rights, and that they were put there on purpose by men who knew what the words meant and meant their prohibitions to be "absolutes.” ~ Justice Hugo L. Black (1886-1971) US Supreme Court Justice
“Whereas civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as military forces, which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” ~ Tench Coxe (1755-1824) American political economist Writing as "A Pennsylvanian," in "Remarks On The First Part Of The Amendments To The Federal Constitution," in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, p.2 col.1
“The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine, involving more pernicious consequences, was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government, within the Constitution, has all the powers granted to it, which are necessary to preserve its existence; as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority.” ~ Justice David Davis (1815-1886) U.S. Supreme Court Justice 1862-1877 Ex parte Milligan 71 U.S. 2 (1866) DAVIS, J., Opinion of the Court
“The framers of the constitution knew human nature as well as we do. They too had lived in dangerous days; they too knew the suffocating influence of orthodoxy and standardized thought. They weighed the compulsions for restrained speech and thought against the abuses of liberty. They chose liberty.” ~ Justice William O. Douglas (1898-1980), U. S. Supreme Court Justice Beauharnais v.Illinois, 342 U.S. 250, 287 (1952)
“Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency.” ~ Justice Charles Evans Hughes (1862-1948) Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court
You are incorrect about Military Police. I was a Combat MP, and can tell you that unless there was a drastic change, Military Police are classified as Combat Support. My units mission (109th MP Company) in the 1980's in Germany was to engage the Spetsnaz if we went to war. Peace-time mission was: Protect V-Corps HQ, Protect V-Corps Commander, and Counter-Terrorist Operations. In the Persian Gulf War, we had several missions: Route Reconnaissance, Supply Line Protection, Convoy Protection, EPW Operations, Counter-Terrorist / Counter-Insurgency Operations, Secure Khobar Towers (never got blown up under our protection), Rear Area Security, U.S. Customs, and law and Order, to name a few.
A Combat MP Company had a TO&E very similar to an Cavalry Scout Platoon of the same era, but without the M3 Bradley: MK19's, 50-Cals, M60's, M203's, Unarmored HUMVEE's (Armored Hummer's didn't happen until the mid to late 2000's), etc.
Army MP's have seen plenty of combat in WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf War, Iraq 2003+, and Afghanistan. Again, not all MP Units are Combat Support, there are also Garrison MP's, Physical Security / Nuclear Physical Security "Tower Rat" MP's, Corrections MP's, etc.
Well I remember MPs giving out traffic tickets on bases!
No I do not doubt the contributions of MPs.
The Posse Comitatus Act has never been challenged. Moreover, it is one branch of government imposing limits on another branch, so it's unconstitutional on its face without amending the constitution.
I'm thinking and hoping it's Red4, u/#q4414
PCA doesn’t apply to national guard? I believe it’s only regular military forces. NG commander in chief is governor of the state.
NG can be federalized under certain conditions, I believe.
But what I was saying is that the PCA is an illegal law to begin with, and as such might be ignored by the military as being null and void.
“NG can be federalized under certain conditions, I believe.”
It takes the approval of the governor, but it can be federalized. This just came up when FJB wanted to take over the Texas NG.
The PCA follows the spirit of the Constitution if not the letter. Ill have to do some digging when I have time but the Framers thought a national police force a bad thing and were dead set against the quartering of troops.
Maybe Ill do a post next weekend. I have a long work week ahead. Its warming up in Michigan (still can be wintery as the inch of snow I woke up to will attest) and homeowners are clamoring for driveways that have been held over due to winter.