FB removed this meme citing misinformation. I've been warned, again lol
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So have you ever actually touched the wing of a large aircraft, or changed out any structural components?
I've worked with aircraft grade aluminum and high strength steel (cut, drilled, welded, etc.). Do I need to work on actual airplanes to understand physics or engineering? (I have degrees in both.)
You didn't actually address a single point I made.
Yes you do actual have to not only touch it, but to go inside them as well. I didn't address your points cause it reads like someone who has read everything than can about the moon arguing about the surface with an astronaut who has actually walked on it.
I'm getting ready to goto work, I'll try and look at your points later.
When analyzing failure modes for an object, the best test is an actual test of the actual objects. It doesn't matter if you are the designer, the builder, the mechanic, etc. What matters is if you are the tester. In this case of trying to understand a failure mode without an actual test, being a designer, builder, or mechanic is irrelevant unless those people have actual experience that is similar to the test in question. Like, if you, as a mechanic, have fixed airplane wings after they have run into 10mm thick high strength steel beam boxes, then your mechanic experience is relevant. If not, it doesn't mean dick all.
In such a case, without any relevant experience, what you want is someone who has experience in analyzing failure modes of similar structures. I have that. I'm not saying "you should listen to me instead," what I am saying is dismissing that experience because I'm not an aircraft mechanic is idiotic. And that is exactly what you are doing.
We sometimes have to remove parts that have never been removed before. We have to have engineers to approve it. They can't write a procedure for it, they just have to ask us how to do it. And we will just try stuff. Until we get it, they watch us and then write a repair procedure. We know how much we can bend things until they break and we know how to use bottle jacks and portable hydro power in various ways that the engineers can't figure out.
You both are just disagreeing from different engineering perspectives, and I think that discussion is both valid and incredibly interesting to read.
You have a good point that someone who works on them routinely would have more narrow experience with them, but Sly is also right that experience in the same materials is still relevant.
Either way, I just hope you both remain honest and genuine about your disagreement because that's more honesty than we ever get about the subject matter itself.
I once spent the day removing a wing skin, its about 1.000 pounds, I used a Crain to lift it off, and then came here after work, to read people saying it's thin metal like a beer can and posted that same photograph
It's not thin metal.
If you have ever seen the aviation snips at a hardware store thats what you would use to cut metal like that. I have 50k + Snap on box at work and I don't have a pair of those snips.