Terrorists like these seem to be owed some dissuasive terror back. I wouldn’t torture anyone myself but I understand they had to talk to possibly prevent further similar attacks.
Not to criticize you personally, but that attitude is endemic in the West. We're a "civilized" people and find it difficult to do such things. I've often thought that if we were to go to war here in America, what lengths would I (or we) have to go to to win? How much of our civilized nature would we have to put on hold until we overcame the bastards that want to destroy this nation? And further, after it's all over, could I (or we) ever get it back?
A time is coming when good men are going to have to do hard things. I just wonder if, after it's over, can we go back to being good men?
You are right, I indeed have been programmed to turn the other cheek.
Now, given how I grew as one of few white people in a mainly arab suburb in France, I discovered once in Switzerland how I would actively be ready to fight if this civilized country were to be invaded: I once lived in such a place and it’s morally unacceptable to make a step backward, so I guess, when/if the time come, I will « obey orders », even if I have to turn in someone I don’t really like.
In his Memoirs, the French opposition figure Jean-Marie Le Pen explained how they had to gegene (from « electric generator ») some suspected terrorists’ gonads to avoid having some randomly throwing grenades in crowded theaters, in the once French Algeria.
BTW, what they don’t say is that the French and other European nations conquered North Africa because they were fed up of having them harbor pirates crossing the Mediterranean Sea to enslave some of the French people. Hence the many blue-eyed people in North Africa.
In “On Turning the Other Cheek (and How It Doesn’t Mean What You Think It Means),” Corey Far explained that a slap on the right cheek meant the soldier backhanded the Jews, which was a far more demeaning slap. “It was degrading,” he said. “It was what you gave to an inferior or a slave.” To not break down emotionally and simply turn the other cheek meant that the soldier couldn’t slap you again on the right cheek, and, Farr said, “he can’t slap you with his left hand, because that is unclean for both of you.” The soldier’s only option was to slap with the palm of his hand, and “this was not the way to slap a slave. This was reserved for equals.” Thus, in giving the other cheek, the degraded person asserted his humanity in a brave countermove — a humble response, yet also an act of courage against an oppressive system.
Turning the other cheek is an act of defiance, not weakness, but one that doesn’t give them the opportunity to execute you and claim it was done righteously.
Interesting, thanks. I always appreciate another view from outside my frame of reference. My weltanschauung is very different from yours, but I can understand it.
I think the West has become, as Rush Limbaugh used to say, an Oprah-fied society, fueled by feelings, and a gynocracy where feminine values trump masculine values. I see that as about to change, though, in coming days. As We The People get more and more fed up with government inaction, our borders being overrun, criminals loose in the streets doing as they damned well please, citizens are going to become more, shall we say, "personally involved" in the justice system.
OL' WEST SHOOT-OUTS, HERE we come...IF Citizens took matters into their hands when things such as this happens, well, as the saying goes:
"An Armed Society is a POLITE Society"!!!
Terrorists like these seem to be owed some dissuasive terror back. I wouldn’t torture anyone myself but I understand they had to talk to possibly prevent further similar attacks.
Not to criticize you personally, but that attitude is endemic in the West. We're a "civilized" people and find it difficult to do such things. I've often thought that if we were to go to war here in America, what lengths would I (or we) have to go to to win? How much of our civilized nature would we have to put on hold until we overcame the bastards that want to destroy this nation? And further, after it's all over, could I (or we) ever get it back?
A time is coming when good men are going to have to do hard things. I just wonder if, after it's over, can we go back to being good men?
You are right, I indeed have been programmed to turn the other cheek.
Now, given how I grew as one of few white people in a mainly arab suburb in France, I discovered once in Switzerland how I would actively be ready to fight if this civilized country were to be invaded: I once lived in such a place and it’s morally unacceptable to make a step backward, so I guess, when/if the time come, I will « obey orders », even if I have to turn in someone I don’t really like.
In his Memoirs, the French opposition figure Jean-Marie Le Pen explained how they had to gegene (from « electric generator ») some suspected terrorists’ gonads to avoid having some randomly throwing grenades in crowded theaters, in the once French Algeria.
BTW, what they don’t say is that the French and other European nations conquered North Africa because they were fed up of having them harbor pirates crossing the Mediterranean Sea to enslave some of the French people. Hence the many blue-eyed people in North Africa.
Context is king
29 “To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/what-does-it-really-mean-to-turn-the-other-cheek.html
Turning the other cheek is an act of defiance, not weakness, but one that doesn’t give them the opportunity to execute you and claim it was done righteously.
It’s exposure.
Thanks, Fren.🙏🏻
Interesting, thanks. I always appreciate another view from outside my frame of reference. My weltanschauung is very different from yours, but I can understand it.
offer a nice hot cup o tea. then water board them with a boiling pot of tea. see? quite civilized, mate.
all the way my friend...
I think the West has become, as Rush Limbaugh used to say, an Oprah-fied society, fueled by feelings, and a gynocracy where feminine values trump masculine values. I see that as about to change, though, in coming days. As We The People get more and more fed up with government inaction, our borders being overrun, criminals loose in the streets doing as they damned well please, citizens are going to become more, shall we say, "personally involved" in the justice system.
OL' WEST SHOOT-OUTS, HERE we come...IF Citizens took matters into their hands when things such as this happens, well, as the saying goes: "An Armed Society is a POLITE Society"!!!