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Nah. Christianity = Jesus.
Christianity began when Jesus was baptized and God the father spoke and acknowledged Him as his son.
Jesus began his ministry and gathered His disciples.
And during His approx 3 yr ministry He and his disciples kept the true Sabbath (Saturday). Do you deny this? Can you point out anywhere in the scriptures where God the Father or Jesus His son changed the Holy Sabbath (written in stone by God) to Sunday (the day of the sun)?
Of course. "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." Also, you're projecting a bit, I never argued for the Jewish Sabbath nor the Sunday version. I believe a day off each week is needed and that it probably can't be the same day for everybody. Someone still gotta cook for everyone, sry up and clean up afterwards. Critters need feeding too, and heck, emergencies don't care what day of the week it is. So then?
Apologies if I misinterpreted your reply.
Do you agree that God wrote the 10 Commands with his own hand? And that those Commandments are still in effect as written in Exodus? This seems to be at the root of the controversy
Yes, old covenant. No, not the same as new covenant. We follow Jesus, not Moses or the Talmud. We acknowledge that the OT prophets and the adventures of the followers of I AM are important to understand the history of the world and of God's relationship to His people, which are now us. But Jesus fundamentally changed that relationship, replacing the vending-machine sacrifice system with a personal relationship with Him, established sacraments that did not exist before Him (unless one is reborn in water and fire, do this in memory of me...) and clarified / simplified the commandments.
He did not exult pacifism, do away with slavery, replace terrestrial governments, but He did simultaneously obey tradition and break it. Saul/Paul and Peter later both received divine guidance about gentiles; they're not Hebrews. And they were to conduct the new baptisms/confirmations which were nowhere in the OT to bring people officially into accepting and following Christ. Many differences.
We follow the old commandments but not just them, we don't worry about the Hebrew writings as much as they do, because it's now on our hearts, not on stone; we love God first and our neighbors as ourselves, which should naturally mean not just the ten rules the tribes were given, nor the thousands of rules they collected afterwards, but the open yet harder rules of how to be happy soldiers for Christ. The self-sacrifice of Christians imitates Christ, for example, and was never part of the OT rules, nor part of the Hebrew lives now.
I personally believe in the new covenant, the sacraments Jesus established, and the church He started with Petra. I don't believe that priests must or should be celibate, but that even lay men and women can lead the remembrances of the last supper. I believe all the churches have been horribly infiltrated by servants of the devil, and that we will wind up eventually having to host mass secretly in the home. I believe we must understand that those pretending to be Jewish are really pagans or worse, and like other pagan cults, they have never given up their old sacrifice systems- thus many innocent beings have suffered terribly under their hands for millennia. Even now.
I don’t disagree with anything you wrote. But the 10 Commandments are not (nor will ever be void) by the new covenant.
The new Covenant is salvation through the blood of Jesus for all of humanity. There is nothing in the Bible indicating a change in Gods laws (10 Commandments).
In fact the definition of sin is breaking those laws. Jesus was sinless and therefore kept the Commandments as did the disciples after his ascension.
The Sabbath is not about minute infractions or maintaining some rigid rules to a fault (like Satan wants us to think) it is all about a weekly tribute to the creation by focusing (worshiping) the Creator. The Creation was very specific and the seventh day was purposefully and specifically set aside to rest and worship. Rejecting this fact is rejecting the Creation and the Creator. Once the person rejects this plain / written scripture then false teachings like evolution can be more easily accepted by Christians. Evolution is the opposite of Creation and eliminates Jesus the Creator.
I hope this makes some common sense to someone out there.
Edit: I will add the fact (again from my first post) the Seventh Day Sabbath was a part of the Christian church for centuries. That ended when the Catholic changed the word of God. Not only that, they plainly admit the seventh day is the true Sabbath and claim the power to change God’s law written with his own hand in stone. That is fact. Given this that change could only come from Lucifer who want to replace God and so he substituted his Day of the Sun (Sunday) worship for God’s day. That’s why it matters! God bless you all anons.