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The hubby says the sacrificing of red heifer is BS because God doesn't care about sacrifices and rituals. He wants us to repent sincerely, love one another, learn to forgive and have compassion and not be a stickler for traditions like how Jesus healed on Sabbath and they wanted to kill him. We're supposed to learn discernment and use common sense and goodness and righteousness, repentance is from within, not some sacrifice and rituals. Those are symbolism and parables to teach us about deeper things. What are your thoughts?
Of course God doesn't require a sacrifice of some cow because Christ was the final sacrifice, he gave up his Son for us and sacrificed him to forgive all Sin - resulting in the Eucharist which we partake in at the Mass to reaffirm that ultimate sacrifice and to bring us into communion with God through literally consuming his blood and body. So yes, ritual is an important part of worship and it is one of the ways Man can communicate his love and devotion to God in return.
But there may be other malicious demons, or maybe the main one if you know who I'm talking about, who would be delighted with that kind of a 'red heffer' sacrifice, and may even gain some amount of strength through it. And that's the scary part. Who do you think would be thrilled to have an all red cow sacrificed in his name? Doesn't take too many guesses.
May God protect us all.
Christ said when this temple is destroyed it will be raised up in 3 days. That temple was destroyed, but after his sacrifice, the final blood sacrifice, he became the temple, and he rose in 3 days. My thoughts are that, once Jesus overturned the tables, Christ in Jesus was doing the Fathers work, and the temple was condemned, lost to God. When Christ died the veil was torn in half, in 3 days he was risen. I do not mean insult to anyone, but the red heiffer thing meant nothing once the Jews condemned Jesus, anything after that is just fan fiction, interesting to philosophize about, but it is not necessary. Christ is the one true temple, as are his baptized. Maybe it is too esoteric for some people who are stone cold literalists. Christ spoke in parables, the sign of a master and a superior teacher possesing the mind of GodLlet him who has ears hear. While we are all saved in baptism and faith, not every Christian who proclaims HIM are capable of understanding all scripture.
Amen.
I agree. He was the ultimate sacrifice, anything else doesn’t matter. He shed his blood so that we could live. Makes me sad a beautiful animal has to die for a ritual. And yes the greatest command is to love one another. HE is love, and to be like Jesus we must love.
Jesus did all the law required and did not do what the law forbade. When He died in the place of all the law breakers he killed the system. He was the perfect and final atoning sacrifice to expiate God's wrath toward sin and be the propitiation for the offender. No other offering is necessary for those who claim Christ's work on their behalf. For those who ask God's forgiveness it is given them based on justice being served on Him. It is Finished was not just a statement about His life ending it was the end of the exercise of the law which He fulfilled.
Upon receiving God's forgiveness and Christ's status of righteousness imputed to our records there is no more sacrificial system necessary. God did care about that red heffer back in the Exodus account but now would consider it sacrilege. Of course, the descendents of who murdered Jesus still reject Him so of course they're going to try in their own strength to manipulate God and fail... I'd pretty much agree with your hubby.
Posted this above, thought you may enjoy since you seem to know your stuff
"Of course God doesn't require a sacrifice of some cow because Christ was the final sacrifice, he gave up his Son for us and sacrificed him to forgive all Sin - resulting in the Eucharist which we partake in at the Mass to reaffirm that ultimate sacrifice and to bring us into communion with God through literally consuming his blood and body. So yes, ritual is an important part of worship and it is one of the ways Man can communicate his love and devotion to God in return.
But there may be other malicious demons, or maybe the main one if you know who I'm talking about, who would be delighted with that kind of a 'red heffer' sacrifice, and may even gain some amount of strength through it. And that's the scary part. Who do you think would be thrilled to have an all red cow sacrificed in his name? Doesn't take too many guesses.
May God protect us all."
Love must be just or it's not true. He specifically spared them in the garden and though He loves rightly and punishes sin He is not one to execute people at their first sin.
He "regretted" that He made a very good image bearing creation that chose to believe a lie in opposition to Him. Sure, but how many years did they have Noah warning them that judgement was coming? God gave them time in His mercy and love to respond in love to Him.
Love and wrath can live in harmony.
It is my understanding also the God doesn’t require the “killing of the fatted calf”.
I believe that sincere repentance and what the sisters and monks referred to as “the mortification of the flesh” (fasting and self sacrifice) are necessary and acceptable.
Yes..I think sacrifice is removing the ego and letting the spirit becomes stronger than the body. "The spirit is willing but the body is weak." Matthew 26:41
Amen, fren.