Murder is the unlawful killing of a Natural Person.
A natural person being someone that was Born Naturally.
Since the time of Aristotle to the founding of this nation a fetus wasn't believed to be infused with a soul until the quickening. (4th month)
Even then it wasn't until the 1800's that abortion laws were being written and they were to protect the woman from a botched abortion in which she died, not the fetus.
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:3
I say let Amalek smite themselves. They may be citizens but they are not my tribe or your tribe.
I will also point out that since before the Biblical flood Born Naturally children were sacrificed to Molech. Using your logic, because it's been done that way for most of history, it's ok? The word "Fetus" is used by the abortion industry and the medical establishment in order to take the humanity away from the child. A baby just becomes a lump of cells in the eyes of the unthinking public.
You can call the baby a fetus, or determine in your own mind that it has no rights and isn't part of humanity because it has not been born naturally, but this is just semantics...anyone whose seen the photos of an abortion or watched a baby in a sonagram knows it's a living human being...not some fetus waiting for it's humanity to be conferred upon "IT" when it is out of the womb. That whole argument is just either based on pure evil or pure ignorance!
Even state laws show the hypocrisy in this Natural Person argument when it determines it's ok for a doctor to murder the baby in the womb by chopping it up without any anesthesia, but if you cause and a vehicle accident that causes the death of the mother and her so called "fetus," you are charge with 2 counts of involuntary manslaughter. So, it's a person when the mother wants to keep it and it's not a person if she doesn't?
Here's what God says on the subject...
Psalm 139:13-16 ~ For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
Jeremiah 1:5 ~ "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."
I gave you legal definitions and some history. You gave me distortions and emotional appeals.
If you want to play these games where we imply what the other believes then let's play. We receive birth certificates, not conception certificates. If you want to place abortion on the same level as murder you have to inspect women monthly and issue conception certificates. When a miscarriage happens it will have to be investigated as a possible murder. That's your position, is it not? It should be. How else are you going to enforce such murder laws? Especially in the age of the internet and international travel? Do you enjoy invading people's privacy?
Keep in mind miscarriages are common and are often unnoticed. They also exceed the number of medically induced abortions...
Murder is the unlawful killing of a Natural Person. A natural person being someone that was Born Naturally. Since the time of Aristotle to the founding of this nation a fetus wasn't believed to be infused with a soul until the quickening. (4th month) Even then it wasn't until the 1800's that abortion laws were being written and they were to protect the woman from a botched abortion in which she died, not the fetus.
"Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:3
I say let Amalek smite themselves. They may be citizens but they are not my tribe or your tribe.
I will also point out that since before the Biblical flood Born Naturally children were sacrificed to Molech. Using your logic, because it's been done that way for most of history, it's ok? The word "Fetus" is used by the abortion industry and the medical establishment in order to take the humanity away from the child. A baby just becomes a lump of cells in the eyes of the unthinking public.
You can call the baby a fetus, or determine in your own mind that it has no rights and isn't part of humanity because it has not been born naturally, but this is just semantics...anyone whose seen the photos of an abortion or watched a baby in a sonagram knows it's a living human being...not some fetus waiting for it's humanity to be conferred upon "IT" when it is out of the womb. That whole argument is just either based on pure evil or pure ignorance!
Even state laws show the hypocrisy in this Natural Person argument when it determines it's ok for a doctor to murder the baby in the womb by chopping it up without any anesthesia, but if you cause and a vehicle accident that causes the death of the mother and her so called "fetus," you are charge with 2 counts of involuntary manslaughter. So, it's a person when the mother wants to keep it and it's not a person if she doesn't?
Here's what God says on the subject...
Psalm 139:13-16 ~ For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
Jeremiah 1:5 ~ "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."
"Using your logic"
No, you're not using my logic.
I gave you legal definitions and some history. You gave me distortions and emotional appeals.
If you want to play these games where we imply what the other believes then let's play. We receive birth certificates, not conception certificates. If you want to place abortion on the same level as murder you have to inspect women monthly and issue conception certificates. When a miscarriage happens it will have to be investigated as a possible murder. That's your position, is it not? It should be. How else are you going to enforce such murder laws? Especially in the age of the internet and international travel? Do you enjoy invading people's privacy?
Keep in mind miscarriages are common and are often unnoticed. They also exceed the number of medically induced abortions...