We win by persuasion, not banning. Banning results in Democrats winning elections.
I disagree. You're not accounting for God.
Unborn children are fully human from the moment of conception. In fact the first person to recognize Jesus was John the Baptist while they were both was still in the womb. The premeditated taking of a human life is defined as murder and scripture calls for capital punishment.
Here's the part that's important...
"God curses a nation that sheds innocent blood."
By allowing the slaughter of innocent children we are bringing God's judgment upon our nation. Not just judgment after we're dead, judgment now.
When God wants to judge a nation one of the ways He does that is by sending them wicked rulers. It also appears many other ways from droughts, floods, natural disasters, moral and cultural decline, corruption, degeneracy, and much more.
God is sovereign over everything including elections. God doesn't call us to simply win elections and work top down. God calls us to be faithful and stand in the gap for the innocent.
My Church wrote the amicus brief that overturned Roe v Wade. We run www.EndAbortionNow.com and have equipped churches around the world to fight abortion in a biblical way. We have bills of full abolition pending across the country. We produced the documentaries "babies are murdered here" and "babies are still murdered here" (both free online, go watch them)
Our work is responsible for closing dozens and dozens of abortion facilities. We lost count of how many babies have been saved by this ministry years ago.
We are very much in this fight and we have seen God move an incredible ways time and time again. We have a absolute shoestring budget and are a small church in Mesa Arizona but by being faithful God has used us to move political mountains. We've accomplished more in just a few years than the entire pro-life establishment has accomplished in the last 40 years. How? Being faithful and consistent with scripture.
Outlaw child sacrifice. God will do the rest. This nation would turn around and become righteous and prosperous so fast it would make your head spin.
I'm thankful that at least at this point we've made it a states rights issue. It took a lot of work for us to get here. The next step is getting the first state to criminalize it then others will soon follow. You will see not only the curse lifted off the states that criminalize it but also the blessings that God will pour down on the states. The dichotomy of states that celebrate child sacrifice versus the states that criminalize it will quickly become apparent.
I must admit this is a dark day to see more down votes for your comment then up votes. I stand with you. You are either against abortion or for it; no in-between. You cant serve the world and God at the same time. Look up Matthew 6:24-26
Doing nothing is a sin of omission. I would look at James 4:17 too; we can't pass the buck to others. Truly anyone who calls themselves a Christian must be against abortion. You are either all in or not at all; we can't pick and choose what we want to follow....again, sad to see so many who are ok with the state choosing.
I will say this doesn't change my stance on Trump the plan as we all are sinners short of perfection; but I will pray that he and others see the error of their ways repent and move for real change.
I support Trump. He's the greatest president of my lifetime.
I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted honestly. I think maybe people are misconstruing My position on abortion with me somehow not supporting Trump in general.
I've been in this fight for the lives of the unborn for years now at a level that virtually no one on the subreddit could relate to. I'm very close to this issue and the success that my church has had in this area has been solely based off of how consistent with scripture and faithful we've been.
What would shock some people is to know that one of our biggest opponents in getting full abolition and criminalization legislation on the books has been the existing pro-life establishment that only wants to practice incrementalism and doesn't surprisingly actually want abortion to end. If abortion was outlawed tomorrow these organizations that pull in millions and millions of dollars a year and have very high paying salaries for their leadership, would dry up in heartbeat.
At no place in scripture does God command or promote incrementalism. That concept in itself is essentially rejecting the power of God to bring change out of our faithfulness and instead leaning on our own ability and understanding when we should be faithfully trusting in God to bring the increase.
A deft political move; Very, very smart.
We win by persuasion, not banning. Banning results in Democrats winning elections.
I disagree. You're not accounting for God.
Unborn children are fully human from the moment of conception. In fact the first person to recognize Jesus was John the Baptist while they were both was still in the womb. The premeditated taking of a human life is defined as murder and scripture calls for capital punishment.
Here's the part that's important... "God curses a nation that sheds innocent blood."
By allowing the slaughter of innocent children we are bringing God's judgment upon our nation. Not just judgment after we're dead, judgment now.
When God wants to judge a nation one of the ways He does that is by sending them wicked rulers. It also appears many other ways from droughts, floods, natural disasters, moral and cultural decline, corruption, degeneracy, and much more.
God is sovereign over everything including elections. God doesn't call us to simply win elections and work top down. God calls us to be faithful and stand in the gap for the innocent.
My Church wrote the amicus brief that overturned Roe v Wade. We run www.EndAbortionNow.com and have equipped churches around the world to fight abortion in a biblical way. We have bills of full abolition pending across the country. We produced the documentaries "babies are murdered here" and "babies are still murdered here" (both free online, go watch them)
Our work is responsible for closing dozens and dozens of abortion facilities. We lost count of how many babies have been saved by this ministry years ago.
We are very much in this fight and we have seen God move an incredible ways time and time again. We have a absolute shoestring budget and are a small church in Mesa Arizona but by being faithful God has used us to move political mountains. We've accomplished more in just a few years than the entire pro-life establishment has accomplished in the last 40 years. How? Being faithful and consistent with scripture.
Outlaw child sacrifice. God will do the rest. This nation would turn around and become righteous and prosperous so fast it would make your head spin.
I'm thankful that at least at this point we've made it a states rights issue. It took a lot of work for us to get here. The next step is getting the first state to criminalize it then others will soon follow. You will see not only the curse lifted off the states that criminalize it but also the blessings that God will pour down on the states. The dichotomy of states that celebrate child sacrifice versus the states that criminalize it will quickly become apparent.
I must admit this is a dark day to see more down votes for your comment then up votes. I stand with you. You are either against abortion or for it; no in-between. You cant serve the world and God at the same time. Look up Matthew 6:24-26
Doing nothing is a sin of omission. I would look at James 4:17 too; we can't pass the buck to others. Truly anyone who calls themselves a Christian must be against abortion. You are either all in or not at all; we can't pick and choose what we want to follow....again, sad to see so many who are ok with the state choosing.
I will say this doesn't change my stance on Trump the plan as we all are sinners short of perfection; but I will pray that he and others see the error of their ways repent and move for real change.
I support Trump. He's the greatest president of my lifetime.
I'm not sure why I'm getting downvoted honestly. I think maybe people are misconstruing My position on abortion with me somehow not supporting Trump in general.
I've been in this fight for the lives of the unborn for years now at a level that virtually no one on the subreddit could relate to. I'm very close to this issue and the success that my church has had in this area has been solely based off of how consistent with scripture and faithful we've been.
What would shock some people is to know that one of our biggest opponents in getting full abolition and criminalization legislation on the books has been the existing pro-life establishment that only wants to practice incrementalism and doesn't surprisingly actually want abortion to end. If abortion was outlawed tomorrow these organizations that pull in millions and millions of dollars a year and have very high paying salaries for their leadership, would dry up in heartbeat.
At no place in scripture does God command or promote incrementalism. That concept in itself is essentially rejecting the power of God to bring change out of our faithfulness and instead leaning on our own ability and understanding when we should be faithfully trusting in God to bring the increase.
100% understand what you are saying brother. I'm with you. We must submit to Gods will; he is in control.