I gave up about 14 minutes in because it was just a bunch of yapping about stuff we already know about and for which nobody involved has really faced consequences for. Maybe it ended with some plan to actually do something about it, but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it.
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
Let me ask the question that remains.
Why are you here?
Why are you on a board that is dedicated to figuring this out and Helping?
You're sitting in your chair, naysaying, clearly not doing anything yourself - waiting for someone else to ride in on a horse and save You.
Meanwhile - you're speaking that you have decided that Nothing is going to happen because it didn't fit into your expectations of timeline and method.
So I will ask you again - why are you here?
Just wait somewhere else if this is what you're going to take the time to post.
But here's one other option - Be Honest.
Ask the Honest question that you have - Express that you have Doubt - but ask for information that is Seeking.
At that point - your posture will have changed from sitting in your chair and spending effort typing doomsaying messages, to someone who is Honest about their doubt - BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
You're not doing anything about it.
This is a "tough love" message from me - And you need that.
You're here. Notice the posture of people here around you. Seeking. Not Consuming. Not finger pointing like all the normies.
I appreciate your question, and your challenge, and it made me think for a bit.
I'm here because most days there are at least a few posts that have meaningful information that I may not have found elsewhere.
But I'm also here because I enjoy frens, like minded individuals that share my basic values and hopes for the restoration of the Republic. And for their wisdom and the connections between events and individuals that either I don't know about or wouldn't have made on my own.
Have I been able to share much? Not as much as I would have liked, as I've only created a few topics that seemed important or of interest. I've been able to confirm a few posts from others and question far more as likely false. But mostly I exist in the domain of what I hope is healthy skepticism, but I fear that gets labeled dooming and perhaps isn't at all helpful, so maybe I should follow grandma's advice and if I don't have something nice to say (positive to ad), just don't say anything. My hope is that my 6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful.
RE: "...6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful."
Are you here to collect updoots?
I've seen posts that say only "Kek" or "LOL" or "agreed" have 50+ "updoots".
Updoots don't always mean what you think they imply - so they are Not a badge of bragging rights worthwhile of polishing.
RE: "here for the frens and shared values and hopes" - great.
We all need that and that isn't the reason why I took the time to write to you.
RE: grandma's advice - nothing positive to add, don't say anything?
That sounds like missing the point and retreating.
Hole-pokers are wonderful to have here. We need those. You could even say that is the central spirit of this place - diggers and truth seekers.
To do that job, one inherently will be NOT having positive things to add when they poke holes. And that activity shouldn't be a problem here - it should be encouraged when we're trying to solve problems together.
However - as I keep referring to it - because it is the Frame of Mind statement that I read from you that made me stop and write to begin with...
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
This is a frame of mind statement. It is a state of hope statement. It is a Discouraging statement.
And although our job is to poke holes we need to be DILLIGENT to PROTECT our hope here. To PROTECT our motivation here. To PROTECT our frame of mind here.
And what - "but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it." - says is - There is no hope. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing is going on. And so forth.
That is the total fulfillment of "dooming" - NOT "healthy skepticism".
Would you ever say that to a crew of soldiers fighting for their lives, stranded in the middle of the jungle and surrounded?
This is what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't see it and that is why you don't understand what I'm trying to get you to see - and that's okay. That is Why we are here as a Team, so we can help each other see - strengthen each other in this fight - and continue our mission - together.
Can you give us the gist of what was said? No time to watch. Thanks.
I gave up about 14 minutes in because it was just a bunch of yapping about stuff we already know about and for which nobody involved has really faced consequences for. Maybe it ended with some plan to actually do something about it, but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it.
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
Let me ask the question that remains.
Why are you here?
Why are you on a board that is dedicated to figuring this out and Helping?
You're sitting in your chair, naysaying, clearly not doing anything yourself - waiting for someone else to ride in on a horse and save You.
Meanwhile - you're speaking that you have decided that Nothing is going to happen because it didn't fit into your expectations of timeline and method.
So I will ask you again - why are you here?
Just wait somewhere else if this is what you're going to take the time to post.
But here's one other option - Be Honest.
Ask the Honest question that you have - Express that you have Doubt - but ask for information that is Seeking.
At that point - your posture will have changed from sitting in your chair and spending effort typing doomsaying messages, to someone who is Honest about their doubt - BUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
You're not doing anything about it.
This is a "tough love" message from me - And you need that.
You're here. Notice the posture of people here around you. Seeking. Not Consuming. Not finger pointing like all the normies.
Get in the fight!
I appreciate your question, and your challenge, and it made me think for a bit.
I'm here because most days there are at least a few posts that have meaningful information that I may not have found elsewhere.
But I'm also here because I enjoy frens, like minded individuals that share my basic values and hopes for the restoration of the Republic. And for their wisdom and the connections between events and individuals that either I don't know about or wouldn't have made on my own.
Have I been able to share much? Not as much as I would have liked, as I've only created a few topics that seemed important or of interest. I've been able to confirm a few posts from others and question far more as likely false. But mostly I exist in the domain of what I hope is healthy skepticism, but I fear that gets labeled dooming and perhaps isn't at all helpful, so maybe I should follow grandma's advice and if I don't have something nice to say (positive to ad), just don't say anything. My hope is that my 6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful.
RE: "...6400+ updoots means that at least some people have found my input worthwhile or helpful."
Are you here to collect updoots?
I've seen posts that say only "Kek" or "LOL" or "agreed" have 50+ "updoots".
Updoots don't always mean what you think they imply - so they are Not a badge of bragging rights worthwhile of polishing.
RE: "here for the frens and shared values and hopes" - great.
We all need that and that isn't the reason why I took the time to write to you.
RE: grandma's advice - nothing positive to add, don't say anything?
That sounds like missing the point and retreating.
Hole-pokers are wonderful to have here. We need those. You could even say that is the central spirit of this place - diggers and truth seekers.
To do that job, one inherently will be NOT having positive things to add when they poke holes. And that activity shouldn't be a problem here - it should be encouraged when we're trying to solve problems together.
However - as I keep referring to it - because it is the Frame of Mind statement that I read from you that made me stop and write to begin with...
"but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it."
This is a frame of mind statement. It is a state of hope statement. It is a Discouraging statement.
And although our job is to poke holes we need to be DILLIGENT to PROTECT our hope here. To PROTECT our motivation here. To PROTECT our frame of mind here.
And what - "but if anything was going to have been done about it I think they wouldn't have waited 9 years to do it." - says is - There is no hope. Nothing is going to happen. Nothing is going on. And so forth.
That is the total fulfillment of "dooming" - NOT "healthy skepticism".
Would you ever say that to a crew of soldiers fighting for their lives, stranded in the middle of the jungle and surrounded?
This is what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't see it and that is why you don't understand what I'm trying to get you to see - and that's okay. That is Why we are here as a Team, so we can help each other see - strengthen each other in this fight - and continue our mission - together.